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Author Topic: U.S. Gov't Research into Melamine/Cyanuric Acid  (Read 421 times)
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JanC
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« on: October 23, 2008, 12:35:20 PM »

Thanks to the "anonymous" little birdie:


http://ntp.niehs.nih.gov/files/9MelamineGGCosta.pdf
 
National Toxicology Program (US)
Melamine/Cyanuric Acid
 
NTP Board of Scientific Counselors Meeting
June 11-18, 2008, Research Triangle Park, NC
 
Page 4-
 
Confirmation that the melamine used in the "wheat gluten" and "rice protein concentrate" was derived from scrap, containing who know what other toxins and/or contaminants.
 
Page 6-
 
Lethal Dose 50 (LD 50=large enough dose to kill at least 50% of all those receiving it) data on ingested melamine for rats and mice.  For rabbits, applied to the skin (dermal).
 
LD 50 data on ingrested cyanuric acid for rats and applied dermally for rabbits.
 
The toxicity levels are compared to NaCL--sodium chloride--common or table salt:
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_chloride
 
Too much salt can be harmful or fatal:
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt
 
Too much or too little salt in the diet can lead to muscle cramps, dizziness, or even an electrolyte disturbance, which can cause severe, even fatal, neurological problems.
 
Ingestion of large amounts of salt in a short time (about 1 g per kg of body weight) can be fatal. Salt solutions have been used in China as a traditional suicide method.
 
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How the body processes melamine and cyanuric acid and the water solubility of melamine, cyanuric acid and melamine cyanurate.
 
http://www.sailhome.org/Concerns/BodyBurden/Synergistic.html
 
Synergistic Toxicity--Toxins that make each other more toxic.
 
Page 9-
 
Updated risk assessment called for--keep in mind this was before the current "melamilk" crisis began.
 
Page 10-
 
The Italian (1979-1987) and Asian (2004) melamine contaminations are acknowledged.
 
Page 12-
 
Calls for studies to better understand the pharmacokinetics of melamine.
 
http://www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/index.jsp?cfile=htm/bc/190102.htm
 
http://www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/index.jsp?cfile=htm/bc/190107.htm
 
http://www.vin.com/proceedings/Proceedings.plx?CID=WSAVA2002&PID=2675&Category=424
 
Pharmacokinetics--a "road map" of the "trip" the substance takes through the body.
 
More assessment of the toxic effects the combination of melamine and cyanuric acid has on different species.
 
Learn when and what biomarkers appear which will predict renal (kidney) failure after exposure to both toxins.
 
More studies regarding the long term effects of exposure to both toxins.
 
Pages 13-15
 
Proposed rat model studies.  Page 15 includes the nephrotoxic (toxic to the kidneys) biomarkers found in urine which will signal renal failure.  Those shown with an asterisk "*" indicate human nephrotoxic biomarkers FDA is currently studying.
 
Last Page-16-details a similar proposed study in mini pigs and the possibility of other additional studies as yet unnamed.
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« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2008, 12:46:05 PM »

You know what this is looking like? OTC cold medicines for kids. Give it the ok until further studies say maybe kids under 2 shouldn't get it, wait, make that kids under 4. Or is it 6? We'll get back to ya in a few years and let you now how kids 72-100lbs do. Adults, hang on, we'll get there for you also, but in the meantime, I'm sure it's fine to ingest some daily as we made up our risk assumptions and are sticking by them until we have evidence we might be wrong.

Melamine for all, who cares if there's CA or other toxins in the mix that activate it!

Myth: "The Abundance of Caution".   Roll Eyes
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Pita_Purr_Parler
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« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2008, 12:52:56 PM »

Or, How to get federal grant money directed to the industry sidekicks and make it look like "science" so they can artificially create healthy, safe, nutritious pet foods and animal feed with contaminants.
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« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2008, 01:21:08 PM »

Hmmm, I think that's part1 and mine is part2? Part3 would be how to redirect/sell the product once it's determined toxic aka back to part1! Round and round we go!

Does the addition of malmine and friends make it a "value added" product?!   Shocked
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« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2008, 09:19:42 AM »

Straybaby, Thanks so much for these links.
I ave been reading a lot on the [ Synergistic Toxcity]
If I am understand this correctely, then My husband, who is a deisel machanic, is under way too many chemicals.
It mentions a lot of things-
Deisal exaust
esbestos-on brakes-
Something from tires-
I looked up a bunch of chemicals that's mentioned in the article and there are a lot , with a lot of different oncerns.
What do You all think?
He's been working with this stuff for over 30 years.
He has had heart problems, and I think memory problems, etc.
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« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2008, 12:14:37 AM »

JanC what a great find your links are - thank you so much. Spent the last almost hour there and found so much info. And info on autism that I will pass along to a guy a work with as his son has autism. Wow so many products they list that are safe or safer to use from toothpaste to laundry detergent.
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JanC
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« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2008, 07:09:44 AM »

JJ:  You are more than welcome.

I can't take credit for finding those links......they were emailed to me & I just posted them.  I never come up with good stuff like that..... Tongue
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« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2008, 10:02:16 AM »

Great Info.
what do you all think about the diesel stuff Huh Huh
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