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« Reply #720 on: July 24, 2008, 06:48:22 AM » |
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I have to agree with JustMe, Mandycat, and catmom5+. If you try to follow every bit of advice out there to avoid this and that, you will do nothing but make yourself crazy. Plus you'll be dead of starvation, because if you look hard enough, you can read something bad about everything you could possibly eat. I too have lived long enough to see that today's health food is tomorrow's poison--look at margarine as an example!  Mandycat said it perfectly--moderation and common sense. And that includes moderation in what you feed your mind, as catmom5+ pointed out so well. Constant stress is a bigger threat to anyone's long-term health than an occasional McDonald's! That's why, while I respect people's rights to their opinions, most of the time I don't bother to read these threads at all. And when I do, I do so with a healthy skepticism.
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« Reply #721 on: July 24, 2008, 10:05:51 AM » |
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Thanks to each and every one of you. I hear You all, loud and clear. You feel like My family and I truly treasure that. i'm sorry i got so down and said so much yesterday. But I am listening to you, and reading what You have written over and over. so, i'll be alright. And I am going to find a natural Dr. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.
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« Reply #722 on: July 24, 2008, 01:14:55 PM » |
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Everyone has said it all so well, I can only add, I agree, you have to do the best you can, and make sure you get the right nutrition. And there must be a good natural practitioner somewhere around you; you may have to travel a little distance but it would be worth it.
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« Reply #723 on: July 27, 2008, 04:42:29 PM » |
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http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_13702.cfmOCA's Kellogg's Boycott Gaining Momentum Saying no to Fruit Loops: Flint-area people join Internet campaign against Kellogg's and biotech crops FLINT, Michigan -- The grandkids won't munch Froot Loops anymore when they come to visit Mark Fisher and Kathleen Kirby. "They'll be getting organic oatmeal here," said Kirby, a retired English teacher from the Flint School District. The Flint couple are among those calling for a national consumer boycott against Battle Creek-based Kellogg Co., the world's leading cereal maker, in an effort to block the use of genetically engineered (GE) sugar beets in products ranging from candy and breakfast cereal to bread.
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« Reply #724 on: July 27, 2008, 11:34:59 PM » |
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Are these beets the same as what is used in canned vegetables too and fresh beets in the produce section? Have already been buying organic sugar for the past year due to them turning the sugar beets into adulterated, toxic food.
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« Reply #725 on: July 28, 2008, 09:07:16 PM » |
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I signed the letter. Thanks for the opportunity, Trudy! I emailed some other companies as well. It looks like a letter originally sent to the sugar company and copied to Kellogg. I am going to email the sugar company and as many sugar users as I can think of--we've already got so much HFCS. And don't forget the Wheat Growers and bakers. We may still have a chance with that one. But NAWG is really pushing for the availability of gmo wheat ASAP. It is referred to as the competitiveness issue. http://www.wheatworld.org/html/info.cfm?ID=23
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« Reply #726 on: July 31, 2008, 10:51:09 AM » |
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Look at this newsletter I received from Growers for Biotechnology. It will probably be available on their website tomorrow; I couldn't find it today: Marketing Threatens Technology That Could Help Feed the World July 31, 2008 Growers for Biotechnology recently participated in a forum sponsored by AFACT (American Farmers for the Advancement and Conservation of Technology). Several speakers gave presentations that clearly drive home the need for more agriculture productivity from existing lands. The most impressive message came from Dr. John Fetrow, a professor at the University of Minnesota. He showed a video that illustrated how global population has increased since the time of the Roman Empire. As a meter clicked off the passing years, dots of light appeared on a map of the world for each one million people. For centuries, dots appeared very slowly, primarily in India and China. Not until the 1600s were there any dots in the New World. Then, in the last century dots began to appear rapid-fire. Today, world population increases by 80 million people per year. When the video ended in 2030, the entire globe was lit up to represent 9 billion people, an increase of 50 percent over today's population. The video is available for purchase at www.populationconnection.org. The big challenge: How will we feed those people? And what catastrophes will occur if there is not enough food to go around? The professor painted a gloomy picture of potential war and upheaval if people can't find enough food. With grain shortages this year, we may already be seeing how grave the challenge may be. Against that backdrop, we also learned about the trends that threaten the advancement of technologies that can help feed the world. These trends are being driven by short-sighted marketers who try to appeal to "green"-minded and largely ignorant consumers. These companies portray their food products as natural, organic, free of pesticides, free of synthetic hormones, non-GMO and so forth. These claims may help sell products, but they also create fears that will sidetrack the advancement of technologies that we need NOW. Most of the members of AFACT are dairy producers concerned about the loss of rBST, which enables them to produce more milk with fewer cows. First one milk company marketed its milk as rBST-free, hoping to make consumers feel their milk was safer than milk from treated cows. Other companies felt they had to follow suit. Today nearly every major dairy has told its producers to stop using the technology. {and they honestly think this kind of successful opposition to a megapower like Monsanto is brought on by ignorance!}Could the same thing happen with biotech crops? It certainly could {I hope it can--are they worried, or just greasing the legislative wheels to later/sooner outlaw organic labelling or something. Must they protect us--and the world--from our wreckless ignorance?} if companies continue to tout low-yielding organic production as somehow safer and better. It is vitally important that food companies, grocers and restaurateurs understand how their marketing games may have a devastating effect on global population. Farmers need all the tools of today and the future to meet this critical challenge. Growers for Biotechnology Commentary: Biotech crops directly related to higher yields -- Anti-biotech groups ignore the facts -- biotech helps growers produce more food with less environmental impact.
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« Reply #727 on: August 01, 2008, 05:24:26 PM » |
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More news on the sugar issue Trudy posted. http://www.gmfreeireland.org/news/index.php see date July 30 Monsanto beets lead to Kellogg's boycott SeattlePi.com, 30 July 2008. By Rebekah Denn The interesting point to me is that Kellogg's told the consumers group it would not use GMO sugar for products sold in Europe. All of its European products are "free of any ingredients derived from biotech sources." But they don't think U.S. customers care, and "consumer preference is the critical factor Kellogg uses in determining the products being provided in every market." In short, if we objected to genetically modified food the way Europeans do, they wouldn't put it on our food either. I think the OCA does consumers a service in keeping tabs on these things, but I have two questions: One, why call for a boycott, rather than call for people to write Kellogg's and let them know how many Americans do care? (Right now, the two sides are just presenting dueling statistics.) Second, why focus on Kellogg's, the company that gave an honest answer about its policies, while ignoring companies like Mars, who ducked the Times reporter's questions and refused to let the public know whether their foods will contain GMO sugar or not? Seems to give a message that avoiding the question is a better strategy than being straightforward. I'm still trying to figure out what's going on with Hershey's. -------------------------------------------- This reminds me of Kraft's commitment to gm free foods in China and the EU, but not US. But then again, there does not appear to be much vocal opposition or media coverage here. Just these few articles we can be thankful for--and the NGO's.
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« Reply #728 on: August 01, 2008, 05:27:18 PM » |
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same source as above, one article down about nanotech foods:
In a recent CBS/New York Times poll, 53 percent of Americans said they wouldn't buy genetically modified foods.
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« Reply #729 on: August 01, 2008, 06:54:41 PM » |
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I think it needs a lot of news time. and you don't ever hear it mentioned. I don't really even like the news anymore. They don't say anything important anymore and it's getting boring. this needs to be let out by the media. There are a lot of people [it's hard to believe] that don't know anything about this.
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« Reply #730 on: August 01, 2008, 10:50:02 PM » |
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There are a lot of people [it's hard to believe] that don't know anything about this.
That's the only ignorance I could think of when I saw the article claiming "largely ignorant consumers" threatening technological advancements in agriculture. They definitely want to keep us ignorant so we won't question their products' safety. It's like none of this is even happening. I think their favorite consumer is an ignorant consumer. Just shut up and eat it!
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« Reply #731 on: August 06, 2008, 06:09:37 PM » |
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Some word on the gmo sugar beets and other gmo's: http://www.bakingbusiness.com/news/newsfinder.asp?Action=UserDisplayFullDocument&orgId=535&docId=l:832794373&topicId=14401&start=1&topics=singleAmerican Crystal Sugar Co. beet producers are seeing another bumper crop, with Roundup Ready beets and a 1X percent reduced acreage from 2007. American Crystal Sugar Co. in its farm shop meetings discussed a 22.7 ton per acre potential crop with 17.9 percent, with samples pulled this coming week. --Glyphosate-resistant common ragweed "may have been discovered" in the Red River Valley. A field tour is scheduled Aug. 5 near Mayville. The two-hour is 9:30 a.m. From I-29 take Exit 111 and go: 4 miles west on North Dakota Highway 200; north 2.5 miles on County Road 10 (158 Avenue). Among other things, experts will discuss how to control "potential" glyphosaete-resistant ragweed in sugar beet, soybeans and dry edible beans.
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« Reply #732 on: August 06, 2008, 06:12:58 PM » |
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http://www.bakingbusiness.com/news/daily_enews.asp?ArticleID=95582SASKATOON, SASK. — The National Research Council Canada and the Oil Crops Research Institute of the Chinese Academy have signed an agreement to collaborate on research to improve canola production, the two groups said Aug. 5. "This collaboration will help Canada and China develop higher yielding canola, increasing both our countries’ reputations for scientific excellence in agricultural research and creating a competitive advantage for Canadian and Chinese agricultural producers." Dr. Han-zhong Wang, director of the Oil Crops Research Institute, said, "Food and energy shortages are an escalating problem and increasing canola productivity is something that can help these global issues." ===================================== They must be looking at canola for energy sources because I don't see how growing more canola will help solve food shortages. I think if anything, it may cause them by growing biofuel--instead of food crops. Pretzel logic, again?
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« Reply #733 on: August 07, 2008, 09:51:21 PM » |
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This is great news! http://www.bakingbusiness.com/news/newsfinder.asp?Action=UserDisplayFullDocument&orgId=535&docId=l:833329931&topicId=14401&start=4&topics=singleAugust 6, 2008 Wednesday 10:46 AM EST 87 words Monsanto looking to divest milk production hormone Wallace Witkowski SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- Monsanto Co. (MON) is looking to divest its animal product Posilac, a hormone which is used to increase milk production in cows, in the coming months, the company said Wednesday. Monsanto said it seeks to divest the product to focus more on its core seeds and traits business. The company did not disclose additional details about its plans to divest the product. ---------------------------------- Perhaps the consumer actually can make a difference. I can not believe it!!!--------------------------------- more on the topic from GMFreeIreland: http://www.gmfreeireland.org/news/index.phpMonsanto's announcement comes after a year of pitched battles over labeling on dairy packages. A year ago, Monsanto tried unsuccessfully to persuade federal officials to crack down on labels that say the milk has been produced without the hormone, arguing that milk from treated cows was the same as that from untreated cows. In the months since, a Monsanto-backed advocacy group and a handful of dairy organizations have struggled to have similar laws or regulations passed at the state level. In Pennsylvania, for instance, the secretary of agriculture banned the labels, only to have his order overturned by the governor amid a consumer uproar.
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« Reply #734 on: August 07, 2008, 10:12:40 PM » |
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http://www.gmfreeireland.org/news/index.phpSee Aug 7 India: Sheep death: no test for Bt toxin done The Hindu, 7 August 2008. By R. Prasad. "The facility for detection and estimation of Bt toxin is presently not available with us," notes the diagnostic report dated March 3, 2008 of the Indian Veterinary Research Institute (IVRI), Izatnagar, U.P. And by stating its inability to test for Bt toxin, the institute has confirmed the worst fears about how genetically modified crops are tested for biosafety in the country. IVRI is one of the main institutes for testing samples to know the possible cause of death in sheep. It is also required to test tissue samples of dead sheep sent by NGOs. The story of the institute coming out in the open about its inability to test Bt toxin started last year. It started when hundreds of sheep started dying in 2007 in two districts of Andhra Pradesh after grazing in Bt cotton fields. ========================= I wonder why the NGO's would not send the tissue samples out of the country if need be. Or is it that there is not a test developed/available yet to check tissue samples as opposed to the pure substance. This was what we saw with the melamine and cyanuric acid poisonings of our pets--I believe it was more the cyanuric acid test which was not yet perfected before the Melamine Safety Assessment rigamaroll with the hogs and chickens and ppm, ppb not being quantified. Is it perfected even now? And then they did not actually look into the interaction of the two, and who knows for sure how all that plays out with biochemistry once in the system. I will watch for more news will follow; this has been an ongoing, although often poo-pooed story.
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