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« on: September 27, 2008, 09:41:23 AM »

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"Very early in this thread, a poster (purringfur, Reply 317, page 22) suggested that we start trying to list "silent recalls" by US manufacturers. I may have found two. So I'm starting a separate thread to list only milk product foods or foods that contain dry milk powders that you've noticed sudden shortages of. Will be back in a minute to cross-post link ... Neither the FDA or US multinational manufacturers are being very forthcoming here. Instead of waiting for delayed announcements and all the evidence to be consumed, as most of us did in the 2007 pet food recalls, let's list sudden shortages of suspicious products and attempt to save samples and evidence of purchase NOW."

No one is saying by posting a product here that they know if these products contain melamine related to the September 2008 Chinese baby milk adulteration with melamine. The products listed under this thread only represent food products availabe in the Canada or the US which to the best of the poster's information and belief contain milk, milk powders, dry milk powders, casein, whey powder, or cheese powders dry or grated, which the poster has noticed a sudden shortage of based on their experience as consumers in their respective US or Canadian geographical areas as of September 2008 or later:

Pizza Hut parmesan, romano, & hard grating cheese blend in individual packets

McDonald's Coffee Cream in individual containers
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« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2008, 10:18:26 AM »

Great Idea 3Cat, I will tell the wife to keep an eye out for products in shortage

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« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2008, 10:50:00 AM »

Great, 3Cat.  Perhaps others can say if their broad geographic area has a shortage or absence of a particular product.  Except for milk, fruits, and a couple of other things, I go to the store quite infrequently these days, but I will check when I go.  If I could have my own cow and field of grains, I don't think I'd go to the store at all.   
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« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2008, 11:07:23 AM »

Very good idea.  I will keep my eyes open too.  I just got back from the supermarket and did not notice any conspicuous absences today in general products. 

I did note that some Japanese-made filled sandwich-type cookies were absent from the ethnic foods department, (sorry don't have brand) as well as Pocky Sticks, which could contain milk powder in the coating.  However, since I don't buy those regularly, I don't know when they were last in stock.
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« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2008, 11:25:02 AM »

Pizza Hut parmesan, romano, & hard grating cheese blend in individual packets

Pizza Hut Cheese Powder Found to be Tainted
China Post September 27 2008

http://tinyurl.com/459fzm

"The test findings show that a 400kg shipment of cheese powder contained melamine, the executive said.

The cheese powder was delivered to the supplier’s contract manufacturer on Aug. 22, and 130kg of it had already been made into packs of 2g each, Wu said.

Pizza Hut has worked with that supplier for six years, and the supply contract was just renewed in June this year, Wu said."

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« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2008, 11:45:09 AM »

You can bet your sweet bippy that I have samples ...  Grin

With the Halloween candy trick or treat season fast approaching, I just think getting disclosure from
the FDA and all US manufacturers may be very important here, even if it's only concerned US consumers
trying to protect each other.
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« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2008, 01:28:25 PM »

I'm going to sticky this thread for now for ease of reference.
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« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2008, 01:39:46 PM »

Nabiya

Thanks for the info

Just looked and found some pizza hut cheese powder, doesn't say where it is made but has a plant # of 06-610, then found some other brand with the same plant number, so they all go in the trash, no have to toss them outside in the garbage so that the big goof Thanka doesn't get them out of the garbage can.

there is a supplier ID of 00000386-02 a GIN# of 0015954 and the plant# of 06-610. Packed exclusively for Pizza-Hut Dallas,TX

I wish I knew what any of that means, no COOL or any reference to anywhere it is made, it does say that it contains milk.

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« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2008, 02:31:03 PM »

db, it might be worth saving for testing, if things should come to that point.  I know I am hanging on to the mac and cheese powder I have right now and a few other things.
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« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2008, 02:33:18 PM »

This Taipei article gives the amount found in the Pizza Hut cheese packets:

""Asked to comment on the scandal involving Pizza Hut, Yeh said it was only one case and that the source of the tainted ingredients had yet to be identified.

Pizza Hut on Friday reported to the DOH that 65,000 packets of cheese powder contaminated with up to 76.2ppm of melamine may have been consumed by its customers.

Pizza Hut has since recalled all unused cheese packets."

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2008/09/28/2003424430
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« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2008, 02:47:19 PM »

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Pizza Hut has since recalled all unused cheese packets."

Is that here in the US or just in Taipei??

I read it too and am confused


By the way, what about non-dairy creamers?? Wife uses them in her coffee??

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« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2008, 04:03:23 PM »

db, it's been questioned in coffee creamer products, too. Have your wife switch to
local milk, please. Ingredients like casein, whey are also among the questioned
dry milk powders. Different Nestle Carnation products have been mentioned in
various reports. You need to read your way through all 30-plus pages of this
thread to get a fuller concept of the products and where they've been found,
unless someone has a summary link they can post:

http://itchmoforums.com/recall-nonpet-food/melamine-suspected-chinese-officials-say-baby-formula-tied-to-kidney-stones-t6256.0.html
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« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2008, 04:06:08 PM »

3cat

Thanks

Will go get some milk for her coffee

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« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2008, 04:32:11 PM »

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db, it's been questioned in coffee creamer products, too.

That would be faking fake food.  I wondered about that.  I couldn't think of a reason to do that since I don't think non-dairy creamer is supposed to have any protein content, but who knows?  The melamine could whiten coffee nicely and be cheaper than what is safer.

Actually non-dairy has casein in it as a binder, which is a milk product, also used in white glue, forget the reason that it is considered non-dairy. Interesting isn't it, dairy product that is considered non-dairy

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« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2008, 05:14:07 PM »

Here's the US Trade Import table. might help research what milk proteins, dairy dry/wet products we import:

 http://ffas.usda.gov/ustrade/ustlists/ImCmDetail.asp?QI=&code=M3501905000

Milk protein concentrate? nervously asking Why would we import that? Where does it come from?

Here's the query section:

http://www.fas.usda.gov/ustrade/USTImHS2.asp?QI=

This totally threw me- the highest (agricultural) % of increase of imports from China?
                                Jan-Jul:    2007    2008      % Change
FERTILIZER MIXTURES  3105 MT | 6,325.9 90,629.7  1332.68
WORKED CEREAL GRAIN 1104 MT |    93.0   5,836.8  6176.13
FLOUR, MEAL, LEGUMES 1106 MT |   88.0   1,570.9  1685.11
ANIMAL FODDER          1214 MT  |     1.0       22.0  2100.00
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