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« Reply #705 on: May 13, 2008, 03:15:35 PM » |
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Carol,
What a good reminder! I hope everyone will call Purina and raise hell.
Mold toxins in feed/pet food are a problem that goes way back. In searching for the above info, I found mention of problems in 1955. You'd think that by now, it would be a preventable problem.
Guess they have to find a use for contaminated grain - so it goes into feed/food.
I don't expect to see any more offical recall notices.
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« Reply #706 on: May 13, 2008, 04:20:41 PM » |
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In researching aflatoxins, I found another website that's dedicated to the victims of tainted food: http://www.petfoodnightmares.com/So many sad stories. That sweet little boy really loved his cat. 5CatMom =^..^ = |
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« Reply #707 on: May 13, 2008, 05:41:32 PM » |
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That Sinagpore study is scary - as we are getting more & more ingredients from overseas, bet we can count on amounts of mycotoxins going up in everything. Humid, hot environments and poor, probably unregulated storage conditions are great ways to grow mold & fungi. If it's bad here, it will be doubly bad there.
When you think about it, would you mix up a gruel of meat & fat & grain, bake it into cookies in the oven, then let it sit around on the counter for weeks, even months, before eating it? Or worse yet, eat the same thing after it sat in warehouses & on store shelves for months in a paper or plastic bag? A horrifying prospect if you think about it in human food terms.
Our poor pets!
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« Reply #708 on: May 13, 2008, 06:06:21 PM » |
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In researching aflatoxins, I found another website that's dedicated to the victims of tainted food: http://www.petfoodnightmares.com/So many sad stories. That sweet little boy really loved his cat. 5CatMom =^..^ =Maybe this has already been discussed before, but I was wondering what the chromium tripicolinate is that they refer to in their story. |
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« Reply #709 on: May 14, 2008, 06:03:30 AM » |
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Shadowmice,
Welcome to the thread! That's a good point about chromium tripicolinate. If you do a google search, some interesting stuff pops up.
On another thread I read that you have a forum. That's excellent! Can you give us a link?
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« Reply #710 on: May 14, 2008, 09:14:53 AM » |
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I was doing some googling on it too; interesting info for sure. Sounds like it was probably intended as a metabolism booster in some weight control products but because it was not an approved substance it could no longer be used. Since it's not supposed to be in use any more, presumaby we need not worry about it.
The forum I maintain is a members-only forum for a local camera club which requires a paid membership and registration to access so I'm afraid posting a link isn't too useful to anyone who isn't a member.
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« Reply #711 on: May 14, 2008, 11:32:39 PM » |
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Pet food nightmares is such a sad place. Those people sound so much like the great majority on here.
Just one thing stuck out though - since a lot of stuff is not approved for human grade food that means it goes into all the pet food? No wonder all our animals are either slowly poisoned to death or have kidneys that shrivel up and quit working from eating all the cwap loaded stuff out there IMO.
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« Reply #712 on: May 15, 2008, 08:42:28 AM » |
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Cross posted from "FDA Pet Food Hearing Tuesday" "OK Everyone,
Just got off the phone with Urnestine Ezzard (a nice guy). He works for Dockets Management Division and is the contact for the FDA Center for Veterinary Medicine.
He said to get your comments posted at regulations.gov you must:
1. Write at the top of your comment: PLEASE POST TO REGULATIONS.GOV
2. In your comment, do not include personal information such as your telephone no., address, email address. (due to privacy concerns)
3. Try the above, and if your comment doesn't get posted call Urnestine at 301/827-6863
Here's the link again:
http://www.regulations.gov/fdmspublic/component/main?main=DocketDetail&d=FDA-2007-N-0442
Any problems with these directions, please let me know.
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« Reply #713 on: July 19, 2008, 05:45:53 AM » |
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For those who are new to the issue, here's a recent article from Chemical and Engineering News: May 12, 2008 Volume 86, Number 18 pp. 41-43 "Anatomy Of A Pet Food Catastrophe""Investigators deployed an array of analytical tools while probing a wave of pet deaths in 2007"http://pubs.acs.org/cen/science/86/8619sci3.html"Even now, research continues into the properties and health effects of the adulterants responsible for the calamity."5CatMom =^..^ = |
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« Reply #714 on: July 19, 2008, 10:07:55 AM » |
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Have fall 2006 Science Diet Hairball Control Dry Senior 7 Plus, about 8 lbs remaining of dry cat food. Only
tested so far by Expertox for presence of acetaminophen and was negative. Open bag, of course, in original
packaging. Mold toxins and what else to test for, folks?
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« Reply #715 on: July 19, 2008, 10:32:27 AM » |
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3cat - how about testing for CA after seeing Don's Nutro results? I'd do melamine too since there were thoughts that last year's poisonings actually started well before then. I'll be interested to see what the results are - is this the food that made your cats sick?
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« Reply #716 on: July 19, 2008, 12:16:37 PM » |
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3Cats,
Mold toxin, Cyanuric Acid, Melamine would be good suspects.
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« Reply #718 on: July 20, 2008, 04:23:03 AM » |
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Oh Trudy,
That's so sad about your horse and cat.
When I was in High School, one of my Summer jobs was working at a feed store that was a Purina feed dealer. There was an incident where a lady's horse died after eating their food. I don't remember if it was sweet feed or the horse chow checkers. But anyway, the district salesman went to her house, and got a sample of the feed. Purina tested it, and they wrote the lady a check. Not that $'s would ever make up for the loss, but it was good that Purina took responsibility.
That was in 1967, and Purina was "Ralston Purina", and not "Purina Feed Mills" as they are (I believe) today.
How times have changed!
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« Reply #719 on: July 20, 2008, 04:44:36 AM » |
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For what it's worth, I'm told by an independent retailer that Canidae has reformulated their food.
Does anyone else have more info on this?
If I used this food (I don't), I'd be calling Canidae on Monday.
With commodity prices rising, it's possible that other foods may be reformulated. Might be good to contact your commercial food companies and ask if they have reformulated, or if they plan to do so.
Just a thought.
Also see Reply #768 page 52 of this thread.
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