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Author Topic: What's Killing Our Pets? Are There Toxins In Pet Food? Poor Nutrients?  (Read 53021 times)
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« Reply #840 on: April 23, 2009, 04:24:15 AM »

Carol,

Thanks for posting that link.  Sorry the DVD got lost in the shuffle.

Maybe someone knows where it is.  Better check my bookshelf, too, 'cause my 'ol memory isn't what it used to be.

Hope it shows up.

Hugs,

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« Reply #841 on: April 24, 2009, 07:49:08 AM »

Cross posted from another thread:

"All of the raw material that we use to make Chicken Jerky Tenders is fresh, 100% premium chicken breast tenderloins"

This is so much BS.  There's no such thing as a "chicken breast tenderloin". 

Chickens do have a breast, but a "tenderloin" is cut from a steer.


Just to clarify, the above post refers to anatomy, and not to glitzy marketing terms which were invented so that meat producers can get more $'s for certain parts.

"Chicken tenderloin" is the inner pectoral muscle (I believe) of 'Gallus gallus'. 

"Chicken tenderloin", "chicken breast tenderloin", and "chicken tenders", are marketing terms.  Similar to "chicken nuggets".  Do chickens have "nuggets"?

The USDA has tried to standardize the terms for labeling and advertising purposes, but confusion remains.

Lots of creative terminology in the food industry.  For example, "USDA Certified", is a term used in local grocery stores.  It's used in lieu of USDA standard terms for grades of beef.  To find out the grade (Prime, Choice, Select, Standard, etc.), ask the butcher.

When you buy a cut up whole chicken (around here), you get:  The "whole" bird, cut into 2 breast halves with ribs and back portion, 2 wings, 2 thighs with back portion and 2 drumsticks.  Sometimes you get the giblets, and sometimes not.  Depends on the brand.  There are no "tenders".

You can cut out the "tenders", if they haven't already been removed.

Don't be fooled by creative marketing.

http://www.practicallyedible.com/edible.nsf/pages/chickentenders

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« Reply #842 on: April 24, 2009, 09:35:28 AM »

Another thing they claimon some premium brand pet foos is  "USDA Inspected" --- what the cosumer does not know is that the animal meat carcass was in indeed USDA inspected at the slaughterhouse, but the offal that came from said carcass was tossed in the bin, transported to the rendering plant where it was NOT USDA inspected.   Angry These offals can include diseased kidneys, liver, cancerous tissues tumrs, etc.   ewwww  bleh bleh bleh) I'm glad I'm going to Trader Joe's today to pick up organic drumsticks for the brat Cato
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« Reply #843 on: April 25, 2009, 08:00:03 PM »

cato please make sure the chicken didn't come from melaland as there is a thread on here about their 'chickens' ewwwwwwwwwww. Went to Trader Joe's after my family gave me a gift card. Still lots of things from melaland in the store.
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« Reply #844 on: April 25, 2009, 10:30:21 PM »

I was looking at big bags of very cheap frozen chicken today (for the dogs) and next to the chicken breasts were the chicken tenderloins.  I had never seen that term used for chicken before and was baffled about what they were.  It looked like part of the leg/thigh area.  I wonder if it's a trendy new term they are using now.
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« Reply #845 on: April 25, 2009, 10:46:14 PM »

petslave,
     Chicken tenderloins are part of the breast of the chicken.  It is not a new term.  Here is a link that shows how to debone a chicken breast and you can scroll down the page and see where the tenderloin is located.

        http://www.cookingforengineers.com/article/123/Boning-Chicken-Breast 
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« Reply #846 on: April 26, 2009, 02:48:02 PM »

cato please make sure the chicken didn't come from melaland as there is a thread on here about their 'chickens' ewwwwwwwwwww. Went to Trader Joe's after my family gave me a gift card. Still lots of things from melaland in the store.

 Shocked Thanks for the tip, JJ!  I thought Trader Joe's said some time ago that they were no longer going to carry anything rom Melaland!  I buy only organic stuff from there (chicken, veggies, etc).  And  I look real close and read all labels now...
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« Reply #847 on: February 05, 2010, 07:03:42 PM »

Could another factor, for cats at least, be fake taurine from China in their food?  Cross-posting:

http://itchmoforums.com/feline-heart-disease/could-fake-taurine-be-responsible-for-an-increase-in-feline-heart-disease-t10353.0.html;msg153554;topicseen#msg153554
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« Reply #848 on: May 23, 2010, 01:09:07 AM »

Was looking for some other info and found the following.  Don't know what to make of it, but thought you guys may be interested.  Never heard of the author, but the article says that she tried to notify the FDA about counterfeit pet food Shocked.

It's a good reminder to be careful what you buy, and where you buy.

http://www.thedogpress.com/Columns/10021-Pet-Food-Conspiracy_Liquorman.asp
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« Reply #849 on: May 23, 2010, 02:15:37 AM »

What a great find 5catmom. I always asked where, when and how was the food destroyed from the 2007 disaster. Apparently it never was because from your link if Nutro is being sold by the pallet is this the reason so many pets get sick because the pet parent might have bought a tainted bag (laced with melamine from 2007) and not known it? Also this person states the contacted Mars about it and received no response. Why should that surprise anyone? The whole article talks about counterfeit food and a conspiracy going on that will topple the pet food industry. If they are complicit in this - OMG no wonder pets continue to get sick. And pet parents never thinking it might very well be the food.
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« Reply #850 on: May 23, 2010, 05:49:05 AM »

I'm not exactly sure what to make of the web page either, 5CatMom. Borders on the conspiracy
paranoid. But if you search "fake" from the home page of this index, a whole lot (some six pages)
of stuff pops up regarding suspected recent food fakes. And apparently, the Grocery Manufacturers Association is claiming recently it estimates 5 to 10 percent of the food they sell is adulterated:

http://itchmoforums.com/off-topic-no-politics/canadians-develop-system-2-detect-food-fraud-per-gma-5-to-10-food-adulterated-t11134.0.html

So I'm scratching my head right along with you as to counterfeit pet food and how it's being
distributed and where.
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« Reply #851 on: May 23, 2010, 06:10:47 AM »

The fact that some is being sold in barrels ,with no dates or codes does seem to support that it is the recalled food being resold. I burnt most of what I had. But we all know the pfc's involved would probably try to make a profit from it somehow.
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« Reply #852 on: May 24, 2010, 01:56:59 AM »

leslie couldn't agree more - they would not take a loss even though they could write it off as a loss. Who knows, maybe they did that too - wrote it off and then sold the contaminated, recalled food. And they ask people to 'trust' them!
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« Reply #853 on: May 24, 2010, 03:30:21 AM »

Yeah, don't believe we need a "conspiracy" to explain what goes on with the pet food industry.

The article sounds like business as usual, to me.  We know that salvaging and recycling cwrap is very much "business as usual" for PFC's.  

Melamine scrap from Menu went to rendering giant, Darling Int'l.  So why wouldn't Mars get rid of their tainted products?    

Turning garbage into gold - it's what they do!
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« Reply #854 on: May 24, 2010, 01:59:42 PM »

The things - the pesticides, the hormones, etc etc etc..... those same things that are killing our pets are killing us too.

There is something wrong with this picture - it's called greed.
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