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« Reply #825 on: March 22, 2009, 08:53:43 PM » |
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and here's another petfood ingredient we need to look into more closely: alternative protein sources from animal by-products. A high-tech rendering plant in Europe has found a way or claims to have found a way to make chicken feathers more bioavailable in animal protein meal. That's the "alternative protein" source. It's BIG business that is creating the demand for such things - not the needs of companion animals. Anyway, those interested may read about it here (the PFI are very excited about it): http://www.petfoodindustry.com/0901PETcommodity.aspx?terms=alternative+proteinIs it just the way I look at things, or is the entire planet's priority's & culture really screwed up? No, Geff. You're not looking at things wrong... we've been sold down the drain by BIG business |
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« Reply #826 on: March 22, 2009, 09:01:24 PM » |
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and here's another petfood ingredient we need to look into more closely: alternative protein sources from animal by-products. A high-tech rendering plant in Europe has found a way or claims to have found a way to make chicken feathers more bioavailable in animal protein meal. That's the "alternative protein" source. It's BIG business that is creating the demand for such things - not the needs of companion animals. Anyway, those interested may read about it here (the PFI are very excited about it): http://www.petfoodindustry.com/0901PETcommodity.aspx?terms=alternative+proteinIs it just the way I look at things, or is the entire planet's priority's & culture really screwed up? No, Geff. You're not looking at things wrong... we've been sold down the drain by BIG business it is so freaking sad & unnecessary. |
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« Reply #827 on: March 22, 2009, 09:15:51 PM » |
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wish I had the means to grow everything I eat myself!
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« Reply #828 on: March 23, 2009, 03:19:28 AM » |
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If (some) PFC's could find a way to make them eat sawdust, they would.
On second thought, there may be more nutrients in sawdust than in some of the petfood ingredients.
I read on one of the patent search websites that folks were experimenting with "ingredients" which would affect the olfactory senses of dogs.
LOL, guess they want to take a handful of sawdust and mix in the new "sirloin" scent!
Just makes you want to gag.
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« Reply #829 on: March 23, 2009, 11:06:44 AM » |
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American humans are pretty unhealthy lot, in the grand scale of things; should we be surprised that our pets also suffer from diseases brought on by poor nutrition? I, for one, am not suprised in the least. My grandmothers were much healther than my parents or myself probably because they were able to get fresh foods from markets everyday and shopped everyday for fresh foods. People now are too busy working and earning a living and paying exhorbitant amounts for housing and healthcare to have the time to shop at fresh markets everyday, if they were available. People are too exhausted to tend to gardens or don't live in places where gardening is viable as a year round endeavor and people don't can and pickle fresh foods from their gardens the way people in the USA used to do. The lifespan of people in the USA is much longer, but what kind of quality of life is a lot of it, I wonder? Is it wonderful to live a long life if it is spent living in a nursing home in a "chronic vegetive state"? I don't think any of us wishes that for ourselves.
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« Reply #830 on: March 23, 2009, 05:16:31 PM » |
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You are all so right. and I just don't see things changing in my lifetime. I wish every day for good ,real food for our pets. If someone could just come up with that. It would be a miracle.
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« Reply #831 on: March 25, 2009, 12:46:08 AM » |
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Welcome back Ned - and agree with your comment on the commercial food.
Trudy the cost would have to be ramped up for a good quality food and most would not be able to afford it for your suggestion of a good, real food. Only other alternative (which is not possible for some) is to home cook what you eat yourself and feed your pet at same time (if only cats would eat the home cooking more) and that is only way to have food you chose to feed - not something thats already mixed up in a bag, pouch or can on the shelves.
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« Reply #832 on: April 22, 2009, 12:38:22 PM » |
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Pet food companies want to know IF YOU KNOW. Here's a 2008 survey that was commissioned by Wellness: "Survey shows pet owners don’t know what ingredients are in their pets’ bowls
According to the survey, commissioned by Wellness, over half of pet owners say they worry their petfood contains ingredients that could harm their pets
Despite the petfood recall last year, a national survey released in October 2008 revealed many pet owners don’t know what ingredients are in their pets’ food. The survey was conducted online in August 2008 by Harris Interactive and commissioned by the Wellness brand of natural petfood and treats. Of the 1,305 US pet owners surveyed, 906 were dog owners, and 783 were cat owners.
According to the survey, two-thirds of the pet owners said they feed their pets as if they were members of their families. However, 56% of pet owners said they always or often read the label of their own packaged foods, compared to 38% of dog owners and 38% of cat owners who said they always or often read the labels on their pets’ food. Wellness also reported that only 38% of those surveyed said they understand all the ingredients listed on their dog food and cat food labels.
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Over half of the pet owners worry their cat or dog food contains ingredients they wouldn’t want their pets to consume;
More than half dog or cat owners (55%) don’t know what federal body is charged with regulating petfood quality;
When asked to name the first ingredient listed on the label of their cat’s dry food, 48% of cat owners answered they are not sure; and
When asked to name the first ingredient listed on the label of their dog’s dry food, 44% of dog owners answered they are not sure."http://www.petfoodindustry.com/ViewNews.aspx?id=230225CatMom =^..^ = |
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« Reply #833 on: April 22, 2009, 01:51:25 PM » |
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Cross posted with permission: In my experience, the pet food industry refuses to answer serious questions about their products. However, they seem willing to discuss certain aspects of their business such as new ingredients (or new names for old ingredients), palatants, and consumer research.
New Ingredients - As commodity prices increase, pet foods may be reformulated to include "new" ingredients such as pecan shells.
". . . had little bearing on petfood except for ground pecan shell, which was previously reviewed and found acceptable by FDA as a source of dietary fiber. While accepted for use in all animal feeds, the item was proposed by a petfood company, so it is safe to assume this ingredient will be used at least in dog and cat food formulations in the foreseeable future."
http://www.petfoodindustry.com/ViewArticle.aspx?id=24154&terms=pecan
New Names for Questionable Ingredients - Soybeans and soybean hulls are being questioned by pet owners, so some consideration was given to inventing a new name for these ingredients. The ingredients would still be used.
"There was also a proposal to delete two definitions—ground soybeans (AAFCO #84.1) and soybean hulls (AAFCO #84.3)—on the basis that the Model Bill already exempts these commodities from the definition of commercial feed. However, the universal concern among attendees was that these deletions would complicate what to call these materials when mixed with other ingredients to make a commercial feed."
http://www.petfoodindustry.com/ViewArticle.aspx?id=24154&terms=soybean+hulls
Palatants - These ingredients are used to make food more acceptable.
"Trials were conducted at the SPF Research Center to determine the impact of phosphoric acid coating on cat kibble palatability. The goals of this research were to identify the interactions with palatability enhancers used as a coating and to identify the best way to coat kibble with phosphoric acid to maximize palatability."
http://www.petfoodindustry.com/ViewArticle.aspx?id=12656
Consumer Research - The pet food industry wants to know: What do you know? Here's a survey from 2008:
http://www.petfoodindustry.com/ViewNews.aspx?id=23022
Please notice that NONE of the above have anything to do with improving the QUALITY of their products.5CatMom =^..^ = |
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« Reply #834 on: April 22, 2009, 02:16:16 PM » |
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Thank you for digging these up, 5CatMom! I remember that few years ago, Iams found a way to use the leavings of the sugar mill process in pet food - they did a fancy study and "found" that beet pulp is an "excellent souce" of dietray fiber for cats and dogs.  Not long now, some big PFM will fund a scientific study that will "discover" the nutritional qualities of used boot leather - and yes, saw dust (haven't they already?). |
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« Reply #835 on: April 22, 2009, 02:38:48 PM » |
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Thanks, Cato. LOL, looks like I dug it up twice. DELETE. DELETE. There, that's much better  . 5CatMom =^..^ = |
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« Reply #836 on: April 22, 2009, 04:12:47 PM » |
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Cato: Thank you for digging these up, 5CatMom! I remember that few years ago, Iams found a way to use the leavings of the sugar mill process in pet food - they did a fancy study and "found" that beet pulp is an "excellent souce" of dietray fiber for cats and dogs. Not long now, some big PFM will fund a scientific study that will "discover" the nutritional qualities of used boot leather - and yes, saw dust (haven't they already?). Your comment about sawdust and boot leather: The sad thing is someone did an experiment in early 2008: "SASKATOON -- To make a point about pet food, veterinarian Meg Smart brewed up a pot of leather boots, wood chips and motor oil. "It would pass (Canadian) standards," she said of her concoction." http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P3-1416808261.htmlI hope the PFC didn't take the article to heart.  |
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« Reply #837 on: April 22, 2009, 04:26:07 PM » |
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Remember the documentary Pet Food A dog's breakfast (that I lost and it wasn't mine...  ) and the vet that made the boot soup stew and she said it would pass the nutrition test...there is a link somewhere here for those that didn't see it--I believe it was on you-tube... I found the link for those that did not see it..quality not the greatest but it's free! http://www.viddler.com/explore/jennifergoodwin/videos/4/ |
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« Reply #838 on: April 22, 2009, 09:07:20 PM » |
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Sad thing about Wellness' comments regarding Pet parents not knowing what's in the food; is even those of us who care have to assume the labels are accurate; which we learned during the recall is often not the case.............
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« Reply #839 on: April 22, 2009, 09:28:47 PM » |
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Sad thing about Wellness' comments regarding Pet parents not knowing what's in the food; is even those of us who care have to assume the labels are accurate; which we learned during the recall is often not the case.............
Exactly. Not to mention the fact that the PFI are constantly inventing fancy names for poor quality ingredients  Who was it that said, "if you can't pronounce it, don't eat it!" Maybe we should apply it to pet food inredients: if you can't pronounce it, don't feed it! |
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