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« Reply #750 on: July 24, 2008, 11:23:37 AM » |
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With prices going up accross the board, I expect we will be seeing a lot more reformulations in petfood ingredients... changes will include generic protein sources like "fish meal" or "poultry meal" etc. Watch out also for new or novel but cheap ingredients to be included in many more pet foods, some of which will be devoid of any nutritional value but given a positive spin by the PFC. An example is the inclusion of beet pulp in pet foods as a source of fermentable fiber. Beet pulp is a by-product of the process of extracting sugar from sugar beets. IAMS uses this cheap fiber in many of their formulations and in order to justify it, they sponsored a "study" showing the benefits of beet pulp in the diet, without adddressing some of the potential problems in its use (bloat, plugging of the intestinal villus, etc.). A better, safer and more nutritious fiber is that of the squash/pumpkin family - but of course, this is more expensive.
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« Reply #751 on: July 24, 2008, 01:07:20 PM » |
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"FDA does not believe raw meat foods for animals are consistent with the goal of protecting the public from significant health risks, particularly when such products are brought into the home and/or used to feed domestic pets."
Guess the raw meat I purchase to feed both my pet and myself is safe; it's only if I make that purchase to feed my pet? So if I understand their statement correctly.. I am exposed to a significant health risk only on the days when I buy meat for my pet. I am so glad they clarified that for me.
So leaking raw meat packages on the meat counter, in the shopping carts, over the market floors, on the conveyor belts, in the hands of baggers and cashiers, on the home counter tops, in the home sinks, on the dishes, in the refrig, in the freezer; presents fewer problems than the "significant health risks, particularly when such products are brought into the home to feed domestic pets"; thank you FDA, I feel so much safer now!
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« Reply #752 on: July 24, 2008, 01:58:07 PM » |
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That's too bad. I hate that labeling laws allow advertising food as containing particular proteins or grains and then there are several others in the fine print. Makes it tough for people with pets with food allergies. Also the barley does cause problems for a lot of dogs. Poco's vet hates to see it in so many premium foods. I hope the major brands will maintain a variety that fits the needs of dogs with allergies or other problems with glutens. |
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« Reply #753 on: July 25, 2008, 10:51:52 AM » |
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After reading all the Nutro complaints this week, I just stopped by Petco to have a little lookey.
On the shelf where the Nutro should be is a sign that says:
Due to a production delay, Natural Choice is currently out of stock on certain sizes of food.
Now, that is a coincidence!
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kaffe
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« Reply #754 on: July 25, 2008, 11:23:57 AM » |
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After reading all the Nutro complaints this week, I just stopped by Petco to have a little lookey.
On the shelf where the Nutro should be is a sign that says:
Due to a production delay, Natural Choice is currently out of stock on certain sizes of food.
Now, that is a coincidence!
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« Reply #755 on: July 25, 2008, 11:34:40 AM » |
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After reading all the Nutro complaints this week, I just stopped by Petco to have a little lookey.
On the shelf where the Nutro should be is a sign that says:
Due to a production delay, Natural Choice is currently out of stock on certain sizes of food.
Now, that is a coincidence!
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« Reply #756 on: July 25, 2008, 02:11:59 PM » |
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« Last Edit: July 25, 2008, 02:19:58 PM by 5CatMom »
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« Reply #757 on: July 25, 2008, 03:56:31 PM » |
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Reads like a horror story! Who makes Nutro again? Mars? We need to think about cross-contaminatin now, I think...
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« Reply #758 on: July 25, 2008, 04:28:27 PM » |
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Kaffe, Yes, that's right. Mars owns Nutro. http://www.nutroproducts.com/press5-1-07mars.shtmlMars was the company that had tainted food in 2004: "Pet food scare in USA had a precursor
The Asian outbreak was little-known in the USA until it was reported last week by the blog Pet Connection."http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-03-10-petfood_N.htm(Thanks to our Carol for finding the original report by Dr. Brown) 5CatMom =^..^ = |
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« Reply #759 on: July 25, 2008, 04:32:48 PM » |
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Hayyyy!... that's right 5Cat! Raised the hair of the nape of my neck! I'm going to see what brands Mars produces now.
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« Reply #760 on: July 25, 2008, 04:37:20 PM » |
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Mars produces:
Sheba (cats)
Cesar (dogs)
Whiskas (cats)
Pedigree (dogs)
Nutro (dogs and cats)
The Good Life (dogs and cats)
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« Reply #761 on: July 25, 2008, 05:02:03 PM » |
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let's not forget what a wonderful job was done in 2004 in identifying the problem then...oh yeah, they didn't.. |
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« Reply #762 on: July 25, 2008, 09:08:37 PM » |
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Don't forget the salmonella in Red Flannel & Krasdale dog foods last summer,also Mars foods.You remember the ones that made people sick by handling it & they didn't recall all of it either.And never said what else was made in the Pa plant that had the contamination.
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« Reply #763 on: July 26, 2008, 04:23:00 PM » |
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I've been trying to obtain samples of unrecalled food held by Menu Foods on discovery in my lawsuit. So far the decisions have gone against me. It's currently in the state supreme court and there's a hearing scheduled for this coming Thursday. According to theory, I have a legally protected right to obtain this type of discovery, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed the previous decisions will be overturned and I'll be able to get hold of some of this evidence. We'll see.
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« Reply #764 on: August 04, 2008, 07:42:40 AM » |
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Don't know if this is related to pet food, but contaminated rice is a problem in some areas: "Human Exposure To Methylmercury through Rice Intake in Mercury Mining Areas, Guizhou Province, China"http://pubs.acs.org/cgi-bin/abstract.cgi/esthag/2008/42/i01/abs/es071948x.html5CatMom =^..^ = |
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