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Author Topic: Taste of the Wild Dog Food Recall?  (Read 79075 times)
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Auntie Crazy
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« on: August 17, 2009, 04:40:21 PM »

It looks like there may be a recall underway that hasn't been announced yet. Both of these links are from a greyhound forum; I have not been able to confirm this information first hand, through TOTW or the FDA. Maybe some of the super-sleuths here can?

http://forum.greytalk.com/index.php?showtopic=236846
http://forum.greytalk.com/index.php?showtopic=236842

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« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2009, 04:58:25 PM »

Very concerning thread for those feeding this brand and not least because there are several different stories coming from the company according to what has been written on the grey forum - sounds oh so familiar - stay safe everyone and your precious furry ones.

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« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2009, 06:02:48 PM »

There are a few things that bother me about this, one being that some people at that forum have received an e:mail from TOTW basically admitting a recall, so why dont they have anything at their website and why hasnt there been any FDA release about it? Are they trying to do a silent recall?  What about the other dogs out there that are eating this food and dont know about it?  

Another thing is that if you recall, my Sophers had been having diahrrea that came out of nowhere for about 3 weeks and we finally got it to stop pretty much immediately...when we removed the TOTW dry food she was eating.  Now, of course, it might be a total coincidence but Im not sure.  Has anyone else that is feeding TOTW dry cat food noticed any problems at all with their kitties?  Sophers was not on any rotation diet so might have been eating more of it than some other kitties here...I dont know.  I dont like freaking out about stuff but at the same time, we cant just bury our heads in the sand anymore when these things happen.  The bag she was on is dated 02-May-10.  

Forgot to add, thank you to AC for finding this. Thank god we have Itchmo and its members keeping their eyes and ears open for our pets
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« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2009, 06:55:55 PM »

 Has anyone else that is feeding TOTW dry cat food noticed any problems at all with their kitties?  Sophers was not on any rotation diet so might have been eating more of it than some other kitties here...I dont know.  I dont like freaking out about stuff but at the same time, we cant just bury our heads in the sand anymore when these things happen.  The bag she was on is dated 02-May-10.  

I've been feeding TOTW to my cats since Dec. 2008 with no problems. Well, to be precise, one cat will develop diarrhea on ANY grain free ( tried Core and TOTW) if fed it 100%. He gets fed a mix of TOTW, Core and a mystery brand (it varies, based on what is on sale...but it is one with grain in it ) and has no problems.

My kittens are on TOTW, Wellness Core and Wellness Kitten. Again, no issues.

But, I do stress, I do NOT feed 100% TOTW, I feed it in amongst 1 or 2 other foods.
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« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2009, 07:12:58 PM »

Thanks for that info Snake Lady  how I wish I could get my Sophers to eat a rotation diet...sigh....she says no, plain and simple. 
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« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2009, 08:13:20 PM »

SandiK, did you see this Susan Thixton article?  Mentions a cat in AK on TOTW that got sick:

http://itchmoforums.com/your-problems-with-pet-food/diamond-natural-cat-food-t8894.0.html;msg132873#msg132873
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« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2009, 08:27:04 PM »

Yikes! Multiple issues with multiple Diamond products, including Taste of the Wild? And cases of food destroyed? That's pretty bothersome to me!

If the food is "bad" enough to destroy, the problem is "bad" enough for the public to be informed. I hate to go all paranoid, but I can't imagine a single reason a company would deliberately destroy it's own product unless it was to hide something.

Somebody, please tell me there's another possibility!
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« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2009, 08:30:35 PM »

To prevent us or members of other pet websites from getting it & having it tested most likely.
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« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2009, 08:39:14 PM »

But surely, SURELY, in this age of twitter-mania, they've got to recognize if one of us knows something, we ALL know. Trying to hide a potentially deadly screw-up, in this manner, well, it's tantamount to screaming their guilt from a roof-top; it's darn close to business suicide.

I am aghast. There's just no other word for it.
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« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2009, 09:00:31 PM »

This looks to be a "silent recall", as the NV was:

http://www.naturesvariety.com/news/29

http://www.naturesvariety.com/news/28

Raw

http://www.naturesvariety.com/news/2

Dog dry food

http://www.naturesvariety.com/news/28

Cat dry food

There's nothing about it anywhere but here and the Greyhound forums.  Diamond has no plants in Galveston that they admit to on their website:

http://www.diamondpet.com/faq/#173

"We have three plants, all located in the United States. Our original plant and home of Diamond Pet Foods headquarters is located in central Missouri. The other two plants are located in northern California and South Carolina."

They're at Gaston, SC, Meta, MO, and Lathrop, CA.

http://www.thestate.com/business/story/857489.html

The State July 9, 2009

"Diamond Pet Foods is spending $3.8 million to expand its Gaston plant.

"Diamond Pet Food’s two other facilities, in Missouri and California, are operating at capacity, so the company decided to expand in South Carolina, he said.

"The company has increased testing for incoming corn, and it checks outgoing batches, too.

"And, it has created new products, including “Taste of the Wild.” That product does not include grains and is made of exotic meats such as bison and quail."

In bringing up the fact that at the time of the 2007 recalls, Diamond's canned foods were being produced by American Nutrition, we need to remember that NB was dealing with them for their canned products also (I see we have a new report of plastic found in NB canned); they still use ANI for their canned and Diamond for their dry, last I heard.

Re: the Greyhound forums saying there was a problem in the Galveston plant--could the poster meant Gaston, where the expansion is going on?
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« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2009, 09:09:54 PM »

Uh-Huh!

http://forum.greytalk.com/index.php?showtopic=236846&view=findpost&p=4165926

Here's the email I just received. It's not Galveston but GASTON, SC.

"Only the Pacific Stream with the best before date of 01 July 2010 (made in Gaston, SC) was pulled from retailers.  The moisture was very low on this batch and we have received reports of feed refusal. The decision was made to pull it from retailers to avoid more customers having trouble with feed refusal. One or two people called about digestive upset so there was a concern that possibly another protein source was introduced into the food. There is not anything poisonous or dangerous in the food. It will not hurt your dogs. I have spoken with many people who are feeding this batch without any issues at all.

"This is not a recall, simply a voluntary callback of the food from retailers that had this particular batch."

(Where have we heard that before?  Roll Eyes )

It looks like only the Pacific Stream TOTW for dogs made at the Gaston, SC plant is the issue.  As of now, the post at the greyhound forum is less than 30 minutes old--poster indicates the e-mail with this information was just received.
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« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2009, 09:24:22 PM »

"This is not a recall, simply a voluntary callback of the food from retailers that had this particular batch."

Oh, I'm sorry, it's a "callback"! Well, of course, nothing to worry about here!  *gag*

And two problems, not one, with the second unconfirmed and unidentified? Where are their QC folks?

Beyond frustrating.

I am removing the And if, "There is not anything poisonous or dangerous in the food.", then why are cases of it being destroyed? remark because the Truth about Pet Food article references Chicken Soup (not TOTW) as the food the shop owner was told to destroy.
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« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2009, 09:52:59 PM »

http://www.diamondpet.com/promotions/5/

Committed to quality and safety
141 Ingredient Tests.
10 Final Product Checks.
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"This is our slogan for quality and consistency, but what does this really mean to you and your pet?

"Our ingredients and finished products undergo an extensive evaluation prior to leaving our facility as a bag of pet food. State of the art laboratories that make use of the newest technology for product analysis help us deliver quality to you in each and every bag.


"Each incoming ingredient has a list of specifications that it must meet. These ingredients are inspected as the truck comes into our facility. Depending on the ingredient, the specific tests that it undergoes will vary. However, all ingredients are inspected for smell, color, texture and purity. Most ingredients are also tested in a near infrared unit for nutrient content. This NIR measures levels of protein, fat, fiber, ash and moisture. The nutrient content is very important to ensure that the ingredients going into the recipe are of the utmost quality and provide the required nutrition to your pet.

"Some examples of tests that are run on specific ingredients include:
•    Peroxide level on fats, oils and protein meals
•    Aflatoxin test on corn, millet, rice
•    Vomitoxin test on wheat, barley
•    Fumonisin test on corn
•    General toxicity screening (Toxi-Screen) – detects harmful levels of any toxins present in the ingredient or finished product

"Samples are collected with a robotic arm, eliminating human influence from the sampling process.

"Although we thoroughly check each incoming ingredient, we don’t stop there. Computers are used to batch each recipe and alarms sound if there is any deviation from the precise recipe.

"Finished product testing is the final critical step in ensuring that the food that you feed to your pet is the best available. Samples are taken throughout the process and tested for level of cook (determined by appearance of the kibble and bushel weight), nutrient content (using the NIR technology), aflatoxin, and bacterial contamination. In addition, we use a special Toxi-screen test that checks finished product samples for any type of toxic contamination. The sealed bags pass through a metal detector prior to being stacked on a pallet. Because the system is automated and cameras are installed throughout the manufacturing facility, we can be confident that the food in each bag has been properly handled throughout the process.

"Once the product leaves our facility, unique identifiers enable us to track each batch of food through the marketplace. Production codes are used on every bag of food and are unique for the product, the plant where it was manufactured, the line on which it was manufactured, the operator who was in charge, and the time the food was put into the bag. The expiration date is another important part of this code. Tags are placed onto the pallets and scanned when the food is loaded onto a truck to be delivered to one of our distributors. Based on the information on the tag, we are able to track which batches went to which distributors. Many of our processes are based off the written protocols used in human grade facilities.  When our facilities are audited for quality and safety, the audit is the same as one that would be done in a human grade facility.  Although pet foods are not considered to be human grade, we hold ourselves to the standards as if they were".

So with all of these things supposedly going on there, how does this happen with the TOTW Salmon, how is it that you aren't sure whether the protein source of it is salmon or not?  Further, let's not forget about the melamine in 2007 and the aflatoxin in 2005.

"Many of our processes are based off the written protocols used in human grade facilities.  When our facilities are audited for quality and safety, the audit is the same as one that would be done in a human grade facility.  Although pet foods are not considered to be human grade, we hold ourselves to the standards as if they were."

Let's see--the peanut plants had protocols too, and they were "audited" for quality and safety too--there were a lot of salmonella contaminated foods which were recalled from those "audited" human grade plants..... Angry

"Computers are used to batch each recipe and alarms sound if there is any deviation from the precise recipe."

Was it on vacation when the possible change of protein source occurred?  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2009, 09:58:18 PM »

Oh silly Auntie Crazy, dont ya know, its a voluntary "callback", that makes it even better...  Roll Eyes  

OK so now its a moisture issue and a couple of people called and reported digestive upset so they somehow gleened from that possibly another protein source was introduced into the food?  Huh?  

All I can say to Diamond is, dont people have the right to know when something is wrong or different with your food that could be causing digestive upset and food refusal in their dogs?  For cripes sake, I think about all the people out there that are wondering what is wrong with their dog, is their dog sick, oh maybe we should take it to the vet and then the vet not knowing what is wrong.  This is outrageous that pet food companies are allowed to do this.  And what about dogs with other illnesses that digestive upset could be dangerous to such as IBD?  Depending on the degree and how long I consider digestive upset to be considered "sick" so how they can say it wont make your dogs sick is nuts to me.  And what about people that have maybe bought several bags all at once which I do, they will be using this food for a long time potentially without knowing there is a problem....aaargh!
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« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2009, 10:25:13 PM »

Oh and by the way, this does it for me with Diamond food, no more for my Sophers.  If I cant trust that a pet food company will tell me or the public when they know there is something different or wrong with their food and let me be the judge whether my pet can tolerate the problem, they are not on my list of foods to use anymore.   Its a sneaky way of doing business in my opinion.  Done, zip, adios, ciao, mahalo, au revoir, sayonara....you get my drift.   Tongue
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