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Author Topic: Second hand info on IAMS canned dog food  (Read 4359 times)
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« on: September 17, 2007, 01:43:44 PM »

This is strictly second hand info...third hand counting me...so I have no idea how valid this is except that it was posted by the Moderator of my local Cavalier Club in our Yahoo Group and just came into my mail from the site:

"Hello Everyone, I want to warn everyone about IAM'S Canned Food.
My friend a breeder of scotties bought a case of Iam's canned two weeks
ago. She fed this to two
litters of pups...one litter 12/wks, another 5/months. Within
3/days all were not well, no vomiting,no diahrea, no temperature.
Off to the Vet with pups. They tested for everything...all came
back negative. Pups literally faded away and 6/died! They were
necropsy's and the livers/kidneys sent to the lab for toxicalogy testing. Came
back today, found leasions on the livers, and
also Aflotoxin poisoning. My friend found the last can in her
garbage can and had that tested also - came back Aflotoxin.
Please spread this around to anyone you know that feeds this food.
Iam's & Eukanuba have been informed...also the FDA. This food was
NOT on the recall list.

permission given to crosspost........."

Once again, please note I have no way of verifying this.  I hesitate sharing, not wanting to start a "friend of a friend" kind of thing.  I do not know if the canned food was the cause of leasions on livers.  I do not know that the food really contained aflotoxins.  The moderator of our club's board has been "in dogs" for a long time and has been a very reliable resource or I would not place this message here at all.  Please don't shoot the messenger and moderators feel free to delete if this causes any concerns.
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« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2007, 03:51:54 PM »

carolo The same information was posted on Pet Connection around the end of August (I think that was the date). I got it last week through a shiba-inu discussion list. A woman in NY who runs a shelter (her name is Wilma) had gotten it third hand, and said that the scottie breeder was in Altoona. The shiba-inu folks said they'd done some checking and no one in the Altoona breed club knew anything about it. There was another story of a cat being ill as well. But the story doesn't seem to have wings at this point.
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« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2007, 04:15:40 PM »

I've also seen this exact same thing in the past on other forums. I obviously can't say for sure that it's false, but I personally don't read much into it.
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« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2007, 04:19:56 PM »

true or not, good reminder that aflotoxins in commercial pet food can be a problem (Diamond recall anyone?!) and if you hear of anyone's pet getting sick, make sure they take it to the vet and hold on to the food. not everyone is as vigilant and there are those that think this is over.
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« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2007, 04:51:20 PM »

do they manufacture all their own food? or have their people at the plants if they don't? cause otherwise, they can't really say for certain as we have learned.

it's kinda like wellness saying they require the machines to be cleaned before their runs . . .

unless they are at the factories, if something goes wrong they will just pass the blame . . .
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« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2007, 02:02:54 PM »

I received this report, too. I wonder if we can reach the original poster to verify details.

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« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2007, 04:06:28 PM »

I received this report, too. I wonder if we can reach the original poster to verify details.



I have asked for the person who had this experience to report all details here, but as I said, it was reported as a Scottie breeder who is a friend of the Moderator of our local Cavalier group, so I do not have her name or any direct contact.  I'll confess I really should not have even put it on this forum because of all the second hand and not knowing anything myself.  My interest in aflotoxins caused me to act in haste.  I was concerned that if the info was valid people who might be feeding the product would be well served to have a heads up. 

Aflotoxins can be found not just in grains, but also certain types in vegetables and fruits.  Some interesting reading here:
http://www.coleparmer.com/techinfo/techinfo.asp?htmlfile=aflotoxin.htm&ID=6
It certainly makes me want to take care how I store kibble, biscuits and much of our human food.  Cooking can kill the mold, but cooking does not neutralize the toxin itself.  Do we have a separate thread for aflotoxins?  Might be useful given how quickly our pets can be harmed by these.  Humans, too, but not necessarily as immediately deadly to humans.
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« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2007, 05:11:14 PM »

I read this article from 2006 report on Aflatoxin poisoning and some of the symptoms resemble acetaminophen poisoning. They both had to do with liver failure.

http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/Jan06/dogs.dying.ssl.html\

I hope this person will come forward and post the test results if its really true.

 IMO:I still have questions on what could have made my pet so sick and died. She had all the symptoms of poisoning and liver failure.
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« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2007, 09:48:22 PM »

Wasn't there a link or story on here re: the grain stored in silos for up a year and that three times a year the grain is sprayed with Malithion to keep down the pests and to prevent it from getting moldy? Anything stored in a silo with humidity and hot weather IMO would then get moldy, no? - especially after a year? YECH, thats why no grains in this house. Don't know if they are real or melamine and now moldy too?
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