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« Reply #510 on: January 11, 2009, 06:05:37 PM »

Any small improvements in the affected cats is cheered on by all of us. Would also like to know when the same stuff thats in butane lighters will no longer be in the bags of Orijen. Took two bags back to the store. Maybe by the fall of this year all thats on the shelf will be sold and the new food without the carcinogen preservatives will be on the shelves? Just have to know date production of the BHA/BHT food was stopped.
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« Reply #511 on: January 11, 2009, 07:32:34 PM »

I agree that it's Champion's duty to see to it that the product they're selling is safe to consume and that they would be most wise to pay for all treatment rather than be served with a class action.

I think this was a very small company that grew too fast because of high demand (2007 recalls). Due diligence must be done when entering new markets and I do recall one incident when I noticed they changed their formula for Orijen mid 2007. I had asked Charlie Kaufmann why they did it (licorice root is contraindicated for one of my cats with a heart condition). I really didn't want to have to stop feeding it to this one cat. It was because they could not export to the US with the botanicals they had originally included as some of them were not on the "allowed" list for the United States. So, they changed their formulation and away they went.

A company that was able to find that information and rectify their product so it was acceptable for a particular country for export should have been able to find out their product would have required irradiation in Australia as it was low-temperature processed. I just wonder what happened. How did they miss it?

But, I also think it's the government's duty to do right by the people they serve and stop this excessive radiation nonsense in the name of saving folks from themselves. How many other products are being irradiated at ridiculous levels unbeknownst to the Australian public -- or the American or Canadian or UK public for that matter? Our parent and grandparents have made it all these decades without this technology.

It should be law that as soon as anything, food or not, is irradiated, the irradiation company slaps a sticker on the product that clearly states it has been irradiated and at what level. 61 KiloGrays is ridiculous and hazardous to pretty much anything it comes in contact with. The government has done its people a disservice in general and I don't think that should go unpunished either.

Of course, that leaves the innocent victims. Champion needs to ante up and, yes, I guess they can try to recoup from the idiots that went overboard.
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« Reply #512 on: January 12, 2009, 04:19:25 PM »

Hi,

I have been following this thread but have never posted here.I have posted on Cat World. I had two 2 year old cats affected back in mid November after being fed the food exclusively for 2 1/2 months. One was pts at the end of November and the other was put to sleep 3 weeks later. I cannot begin to describe the emotional trauma you go through seeing these cats degenerate the way they did. My cats became completely paralysed and I did what I felt was right for them given that there was no positive outlook for cats who were fed exclusively.

BUG, I completely agree with you. Champion did not do their due diligence and were way too slow in  recalling this product. How were people who were feeding this product to know about the damage it was causing. The cats that showed first signs did so back in July and I believe the food in that case was stopped in August. So why the recall at the end of November? Also when I found out that the food was the cause, I called several suppliers as I saw that they were listing the food as out of stock, and they had no idea about the neurological problems in the cats. So, I ask again, how could other affected consumers stop the poison they were happily feeding their cats thinking instead that it was the best thing for the cats.

Also agree with you in terms of Government body, AQIS in this case, requiring that the irradiated pet food be labeled. Otherwise, how would the consumer know. Here we are thinking we are buying this biologically appropriate wholesome food that is then being irradiated at high levels. I for one would not have bought it if I had known. From where I stand irradiation and wholesome do not go together. Also there is the question of what if governments in US and elsewhere decide to irradiate, who is going to inform the end-user.

So now we have been offered $2000/cat for vet bills. I have a question for Champion. Although I must say I wont hold my breath waiting for the answer as they have never answered any of my questions on Cat World. I do believe that your food is a good food. I have no doubt that your company does produce high quality products. I believed in your integrity in making my decision to purchase Orijen. So the question, where is the integrity in not informing your customers in Australia that the food was irradiated when we purchased the food and where is the integrity in holding off on letting us know there was a problem till late November when there was an obvious link earlier. I can accept that a mistake was made here but what I cannot accept from you is that you acted far too slowly to fix it and to recompense cat owners and by the way $2000/cat is way too low a figure. There are people here in Australia who are still suffering through this ordeal months on without a glimmer of hope for recovery for their cats. I pts my cats because I had no hope and I could not bear to see them look at me as if to say help me and I couldn't because no one knew what the toxin was. Being animal lovers as I am sure you are, what would you have done if a gourmet pet food that you fed your animals had slowly paralyzed them and you had to watch this on a daily basis with no hope of recovery. Imagine yourself in this situation and then maybe you can begin to understand the pain. I am still hopeful that you will properly compensate people. We'll see!

Also I wanted to tell people here that a report was done on one of our local channels here regarding the pet food industry and Orijen was covered in this report. the link is as follows: http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/. The report was shown to air on Monday night (12th January) our time. It should be in this link for the next few days. After that you may have to search the archives.

Thank you for reading through my long post.



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« Reply #513 on: January 12, 2009, 04:30:35 PM »

catsrthebest...my heart is broken for you Cry... I too know the results of a "delayed recall" with my two kitties in 2007...I will never understand why it takes so long to announce a problem...even a suspected problem should be announced in my opinion...after all...these companies want us to believe they think of our 4 leggers as family members when we buy their products...I just wish they continued to think that when a problem arises... Sad  To lose our kitties just because we fed them (no matter what) is completely unacceptable ... nothing will ever make it right!
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« Reply #514 on: January 12, 2009, 10:16:44 PM »

Such a loss you have gone thru catsrthebest. A lot of us on here have had a pet that has been ill from the 2007 food and before that also.

Maybe this will cause an overseer type of agency so any problem with pets that starts to be reported can then be brought to the attention of this overseer and looked into and if product needs to be recalled-it will be done sooner rather than let pets continue to eat food (if the food is suspect) and save more animals from illness and death.

They claim they are self regulated - but as has been shown these past couple of years are falling a lil short of that self regulation.
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« Reply #515 on: January 12, 2009, 10:19:40 PM »

catsrthebest..............I am so very sorry that you and your kitties had to go through this.   Cry

Two 2 year olds..............unacceptable............regardless of age.

Irreplaceable...........regardless of what anyone thinks............ Angry

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« Reply #516 on: January 12, 2009, 10:28:19 PM »

Catsrthebest, I am so sad, and so sorry, to hear of your loss. Cry
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« Reply #517 on: January 13, 2009, 04:17:34 AM »

My heart goes out to all of our friends in Australia who have suffered and lost their precious cats as a result of this food problem. I hope and pray that those surviving cats will recover enough to have happy, long lives.
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« Reply #518 on: January 13, 2009, 04:39:50 AM »

Catsrthebest,

What happened to you and your kitties is heartbreaking.  I'm so sorry for your loss.

Thanks for joining us here at Itchmo, and for posting that link to the news report.

Looks like if you search "Orijen" there are a couple of links to the video.  Does anyone know how to put the video up on U-Tube?

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« Reply #519 on: January 13, 2009, 05:17:44 AM »

catsrthebest- I am so sorry you lost them so young. You are right,there is no excuse for delays when recalling any unsafe food or treats. Quick action may have saved others.
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« Reply #520 on: January 13, 2009, 07:26:33 AM »

catsrthebest, I remember your posts on CatWorld.  I am so saddened by loss of your poor cats.  It's just so unfair that our pets pay the price for the negligence, greed, and incompetence of the pet food companies, government agencies, and international corporations.  Thanks for joining us here. furry {{{hugs}}} 
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« Reply #521 on: January 13, 2009, 01:17:05 PM »

Welcome Catsrthebest. My heart goes out to you. Know that you always have friends here, many who understand what you are going through. I recently had to put one of my babies to sleep (Red) and although I received a particular diagnosis, because of everything we had gone through with the 2007 Menu recalls, I'm always left wondering if it was the food I was giving him that contributed to it in some way, even if the brand wasn't part of the recalls.

I always prepare myself for the worst when I feed my cats. How wrong is that?

Also, just as I had posted my story about Mia and how well she has recovered, she had a setback yesterday evening, where her right foot, suddenly, has once again become unsteady and she's walking somewhat crooked. So now, my previously accepted diagnosis of spinal stroke has gone down the drain and perhaps this is a herniated disc -- a problem that could come and go. I really don't want her to have to go through surgery, but if it gets worse, what choice do I have?

Sometimes I think I shouldn't have pets, but If I don't, they'll just languish in a shelter. Better that I suck up the pain of having to eventually let them go, than letting them live life without knowing love.
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« Reply #522 on: January 13, 2009, 01:35:32 PM »

Bug, I am so sorry to read that Mia has had a setback. I sure hope this is temporary and will resolve without surgery. prayers and {{{{Hugs}}}}
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« Reply #523 on: January 13, 2009, 02:32:22 PM »

bug feel exactly the same. Would rather suck it up and give as much love, happiness and closeness while my babies are still here. They deserve no less from us.
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« Reply #524 on: January 14, 2009, 09:39:27 AM »

Thanks all for keeping my spirits up --that's important, too. Mia's condition is very puzzling. She's been on and off all day and I can't seem to figure it out. I just keep praying that she can still walk every day. I hope to hear some good news from the ones affected on the other side of the world soon.
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