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Author Topic: Problems with Orijen in Australia  (Read 348663 times)
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Clark Stride
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« Reply #465 on: December 24, 2008, 10:23:10 AM »

I want to thank everyone for their research and questions on what happened in Australia.
Our hearts go out to those that have been affected by this.

Wishing you all a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.

Clark
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« Reply #466 on: December 24, 2008, 11:58:17 AM »

Thanks for the update, Clark.  Good to hear you have removed the contaminated ingredient from your pet food production now.
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« Reply #467 on: December 24, 2008, 06:37:44 PM »

Clark Stride:
Aluminum testing is done routinely, and we typically have very low content of aluminum in our foods. Test results in the past have been well below 50 ppm in the food. Research shows that levels of between 3,000 and 30,000 ppm of aluminum in dog foods has no effect on dogs when consumed over a long period of time.



Thank you for replying. However, my own independent test of Orijen cat food, expiry date 23 Nov 2008, showed Al level of 60 ppm, which disagrees with what you claim. Although it might not be a problem, it is still higher than I expected it would be, and Al might be a problem in cats since Al adjuvants in vaccines are suspected to be responsible for vaccine associated sarcoma in cats. Thus, cats might be more sensitive to Al.

 Wish you happy holidays and hope after holidays you will return to answer our questions, I am sure there will be some more Smiley
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« Reply #468 on: December 25, 2008, 01:26:49 AM »

The source of the trace amounnts of BHA/BHT have already been removed. We are not waiting until 2010.


That is good to hear. Are you going to label the batches you are aware contain BHA & BHT as such? or recall them? so clients aren't continuing to feed a food they think doesn't contain them when in fact it does?

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« Reply #469 on: December 26, 2008, 01:51:50 PM »

I just found a post on another pet forum dated 04-12-2008 that mentions the orijen problems in AU! If this problem was known about in April, Why did it take so long to recall??

http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showpost.php?s=10023a89cc9ddb92fff9b6064e37c945&p=34141616&postcount=6
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Finally, Orijen. This stuff is good and expensive but there have been problems in Australia. Orijen is not high temperature treated. So all Orijen heading there got irradiated. Somehow some vital nutrients are lost and the cats died of some disease. Looks pretty complicated with Champion Pet Foods (they make Orijen) blaming the Aussie gahment.

Here is another post quoting a news article back in April
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showpost.php?s=10023a89cc9ddb92fff9b6064e37c945&p=34143430&postcount=11
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« Reply #470 on: December 26, 2008, 02:45:21 PM »

I just found a post on another pet forum dated 04-12-2008 that mentions the orijen problems in AU! If this problem was known about in April, Why did it take so long to recall??

http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showpost.php?s=10023a89cc9ddb92fff9b6064e37c945&p=34141616&postcount=6
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Finally, Orijen. This stuff is good and expensive but there have been problems in Australia. Orijen is not high temperature treated. So all Orijen heading there got irradiated. Somehow some vital nutrients are lost and the cats died of some disease. Looks pretty complicated with Champion Pet Foods (they make Orijen) blaming the Aussie gahment.

Here is another post quoting a news article back in April
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showpost.php?s=10023a89cc9ddb92fff9b6064e37c945&p=34143430&postcount=11

I was thinking what?Huh? Orijen knew in April that there was problems with their food and kept it on the shelf till November!!!!! Already decidedly p'd off at their use of partial truths so as their company stays in the best light possible.

But this article isn't an April article its a 4th December article. Our dating system works differently to yours we have day.month.year not month.day.year like Nth America does.

So whilst I am seriously ticked (and what an understatement that is) at Orijen for what they hae done to our cats and our lives this is one thing they can't be blamed for knowing in April what was happening. They can however claim responsibility for making many families have a truely horrendous Christmas as they struggle with the loss and ill health of their cats and find themselves forced to not take part in any family activities or planned holidays as they can't leave their cats unattended for any length of time at all.

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« Reply #471 on: December 26, 2008, 02:48:54 PM »

OK thanks for the correction.
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« Reply #472 on: December 29, 2008, 09:20:24 PM »

Thank you to all those who have prayed and lit candles and wished Rocky well.
We're quietly hopeful that she's hit bottom and is on her way back up again. Two days before Christmas she started losing power in her front legs and was reluctant to move around much at all. If we helped by holding her tail or putting her in her 'sling', her back legs just dragged around with no movement. I really thought when we took her to the vet surgery for boarding over Christmas that we wouldn't have her back with us afterwards.
However, I'm happy to say that yesterday she started to try to stand up again. In fact, she got her legs underneath her so well that she took three steps towards a bird in our yard (she's never caught one, even when healthy). Even when she's 'down', she seems to be sleeping comfortably and deeply, rather than the semi-dozy-hypnosis state that she was in previously.
She also hasn't peed or pooed in her pen yesterday, last night or today - she's hanging on until she's in the backyard, rather than try to use her tray then miss it.

So, still one day at a time, she's certainly not even moving as well as she was two weeks ago, but positive signs here of potential recovery.
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=jCIdqMfI7f4

Again, thanks for your good thoughts.
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« Reply #473 on: December 29, 2008, 10:06:10 PM »

Thank you for the update, Katdogs!  I've been worrying and wondering about all the Australian kitties that we haven't been able to keep up with since the Cat World thread is now closed.  I'm glad that Rocky seems to be pulling out of the worst of it and is actually standing again.  Continued good thoughts and prayers to you and Rocky, and to all the affected kitties and their people. 
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« Reply #474 on: December 29, 2008, 10:34:54 PM »

Breaks my heart, this does... breaks my heart...  Cry please, Lord, please, please grant full recovery to Rocky
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« Reply #475 on: December 29, 2008, 11:06:31 PM »

Katdogs,
     Thanks for the update.  Keeping you and Rocky and all the kitties and families of them in my prayers for a full recovery.  So very sad.   Cry
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« Reply #476 on: December 30, 2008, 05:03:48 AM »

Katdogs,

Thanks for the update on Rocky.  You're doing a great job with her, and Rocky seems determined to get better.

We continue to pray that Rocky and the other kitties will make a full recovery.

5CatMom
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« Reply #477 on: December 30, 2008, 05:24:54 AM »

Katdogs- I hope you are right and Rocky has turned the corner to recovery ! Sending many prayers and positive thoughts to you.
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« Reply #478 on: December 30, 2008, 09:34:12 AM »

katdogs praying that Rocky is on the way, albiet one day at a time, to a full recovery.
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« Reply #479 on: December 30, 2008, 10:02:14 AM »

The source of the trace amounnts of BHA/BHT have already been removed. We are not waiting until 2010.
Pamela thanks for the added input for the BHA & BHT. Won't be removed til 2010? Sorry thats too long to feed even in any type of minute amount a carcinogen to my dog. Well held off taking the food back but back it shall go on friday. Will print out what you posted and take it to the store so they know exactly why it is being returned.

Hi Clarke,

Thank you responding.  Can you clarify a bit, please?

# I take it that comment applies to NEW production, not what is already out here?

#  How long will the product that contains the currant BHT/BHA be on the shelves

# Is the product with the BHA/BHT on the shelves in the US, as I heard that it was?

# How long before you expect that product out there now, to be depleted, or are you pulling it back form your suppliers?

Thanks






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