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The Cats Mother
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« Reply #1455 on: January 05, 2012, 12:43:45 AM »

Ha! No surprises there then!!!

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Thanks for your good wishes Jo.








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« Reply #1456 on: January 05, 2012, 06:56:44 AM »

You are right , that's not a surprise !
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« Reply #1457 on: January 05, 2012, 05:17:24 PM »

Well, well you would think they might have gotten a wee bit smarter after what they did here but no ....... clearly not.
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« Reply #1458 on: February 14, 2012, 09:11:04 PM »

Well I thought it might be time for an update since everyone has given us so much support. Aub and Evie are both doing really well - Evie has finally made it to her pre Orijen weight. Still wobbly and her beautiful flowing coat has not returned but she has a healthy covering of muscles over her bones ...... so Yeah. Aub has also put on weight and is muscley, coated and very handsome. He is playing and happy - eating well and with no encouragement so very nice to see. So very wonderful to see these guys doing so well after all we have been through. Uly too is looking good and happy enough in himself though he still has bad days when his back clearly hurts and he gets wobbly. But overall I am so happy with how these three are going - the best since they got sick in 2008 (madly touching wood and shaking head at what we have all been through in the last 4 yrs - hard to believe it has been that long but we are only one month shy of the start of our nightmare). We also have a litter of beautiful coonies here who are just ten days old and all the fluffies are very pleased about that and sneak looks through the open door into the kitten room when they get a chance - mum of these bubs is very laid back and very proud so happy for the others to admire her bubs from a distance.

So thank you all so very much for the support you have given us, it helped keep us sane and able to keep fighting for our little ones.

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« Reply #1459 on: February 14, 2012, 11:00:30 PM »

Jo,
It is wonderful to see such an encouraging update.  You and your kitties have been through so much! Wishes for continued progress for all.  Enjoy those new additions to your "family"!   Smiley
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« Reply #1460 on: February 15, 2012, 05:11:40 AM »

So good to come here and read such an upbeat update! Thanks for keeping us all updated on all of the news, good - or bad - that happens on your side of the globe.

Sending many hugs to all of the fur babies down under.

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« Reply #1461 on: February 15, 2012, 05:50:01 AM »

I'm glad to hear that, Jo.  You have had such a tough 4 years, but it's all that love & effort you've put in which has pulled them through - I'm sure they know it - and agree they've got a wonderful mum.
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« Reply #1462 on: February 15, 2012, 05:51:55 AM »

I am very happy to hear the encouraging news about your cats, Jo!  It is due to your tender loving care that they have progressed so well after the Orijen nightmare.  And congratulations on the new litter of babies!
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« Reply #1463 on: February 15, 2012, 06:02:50 AM »

This is wonderful news ! Congratulations on the kittens too  Smiley. It's been a long , hard fight but you have gotten them through it. I hope things stay steadier for all of you.
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« Reply #1464 on: February 15, 2012, 06:37:40 PM »

Fantastic to hear that everyone is doing so well! Thanks for the update. I would LOVE to see pictures of all the babies if you have them somewhere.
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« Reply #1465 on: February 16, 2012, 03:05:38 PM »

So glad to read your update and that your kitties have had some improvements and are on an even keel. I know it has been a terrible long road for everyone trying to cope with this and your brave little animals. Congrats also on the kittens! It's so cute that your other cats like them!
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« Reply #1466 on: February 17, 2012, 06:36:44 AM »

Such good news Jo. How lovely to hear some from you about your fur family at last.

I heard from the vet at Canberra that I was in touch with throughout the ordeal. All this time after Dr Georgina Child wrote her letter to the vets journal asking for a reporting body for suspected food issues, finally something is being done. However I do have misgivings when I hear the word "committee" and "meet" .
It's called PetFAST and here is the lowdown:

PetFAST - Pet Food Adverse Event System of Tracking
PetFAST is a system to track health problems in dogs and cats that are suspected of being associated with pet food, treats and pet meat. It is designed to identify possible patterns that might point to a cause.
PetFAST is a voluntary joint initiative of the Australian Veterinary Association (AVA) and the Pet Food Industry Association of Australia (PFIAA).
Only veterinarians in Australia can make a report to PetFAST. They report details of adverse events that they suspect are associated with pet food, treats or pet meat for dogs and cats.
AVA and PFIAA monitor PetFAST reports for similarities that may indicate a possible problem. If a problem that might affect more pets is identified, a joint committee will meet to discuss what action should be taken. We will not be contacting reporting veterinarians unless there is a need for further information.
The recall of pet food and treats during 2008 and 2009 highlighted the absence of a system in Australia to identify and investigate potential adverse pet food events. PetFAST is the voluntary response of the veterinary profession and the pet food industry to help protect the health of Australia’s dogs and cats.
In some countries, monitoring and acting on pet food adverse events is a government responsibility, but no structure currently exists within Australia’s system of government to investigate possible adverse events relating to pet food.
Only veterinarians can use this system. If you are a pet owner and suspect a problem with pet food or treats, you need to ask your vet to examine your pet and lodge a report if they too suspect an adverse event associated with pet food.
Reports are forwarded to the pet food manufacturer where possible, who may be in contact with the reporting veterinarians to investigate the matter further.


I have sent a response copied to Georgina outlining my concerns.
I said that given that it has taken them three years to reach the point of acknowledging a need for this reporting body and actually putting something in place, I would need some convincing that the methods by which it would operate would be better than pedestrian. From reading the above description, it looks as though the committee would not be reporting back to the reporting veterinarians and it is not behoving upon the pet food manufacturer to contact the veterinarians either. This leaves the veterinarians in limbo and their clients/patients in nowhere-land surely?

Really, this is what happened with Orijen. An independent arbiter within PetFAST is needed, if not government then an independent watchdog (no pun intended) to record and oversee each reported incident to ensure a prescribed time-frame and course of action is adhered to. It seems we have come a long way since 2008 but independent policing and a degree of empowerment to compel is needed for the policing bodies. I am still not convinced that policing by those with vested interests (veterinarians and the pet food industry both in the business of retailing pet food) is the best way to go.

Colette continues to be well and happy - happiest of course when there is food or a chance for a long cuddle. However those front paws are incredibly strong and a bit spastic so I tend to get grasped enthusiastically and clawed. She doesn't seem to want to sheath her claws. I look like I've carved runic symbols on my arms sometimes.  Undecided



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« Reply #1467 on: February 24, 2012, 06:48:32 AM »

After all the support you have given I thought you might like to see out new bubs http://itchmoforums.com/the-den-show-off-your-pet-family/maine-coon-kitten-photos-t13564.0.html
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« Reply #1468 on: March 06, 2012, 11:48:21 PM »

I have just placed updated pics of our coonie kittens on the thread listed above for those that wanted to see more of them. Jo
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« Reply #1469 on: March 19, 2012, 01:03:14 AM »

Another update of coonie kitten pics in the Den for anyone interested - they are getting really cute and 1 of them is starting to get really naughty already.

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