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« Reply #1290 on: October 17, 2007, 08:54:10 PM »

I forgot about this, we have it at our feed store(still half an hour away from me)
    Exclusive is under the PMI Nutrition    The cat foods are the last 2 in line of 7 foods   click on bag it will give ingredients   click on Exclusive in right corner
                       http://www.pminutrition.com/

I looked at this a few years ago and decided against it because of corn gluten, for my guy only  but feed store gave it rave reviews, they feed it to their dogs. Might be worth looking into
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« Reply #1291 on: October 17, 2007, 09:22:47 PM »

Leslie, I was thinking that the small stores are likely between a rock & a hard place; they don't have that many brands, so I don't think they can risk getting rid of many. I have no idea how many of the "premium" brands are having QC issues.

While they were very careful with what they said to me, I would think the store is probably furious.

Have you ever tried Pinnacle?
http://www.breeders-choice.com/cat_products/felinepinnacle.htm

I have a dog with allergies and I had an order in for some food, but then the distributor dropped the line and I never pursued it.  The cat food looks like it all has fish in it, so maybe that might be a problem.  Poco is allergic to fish.

I agree there is a dearth of premium food for pets with allergies.  One food we had some luck with was Addiction in the Brushtail variety.  It is either that or raw or homemade right now.  I do like to have back-up food around, though.

(Too bad about the small stores getting stuck with returned Natura products.  I am surprised by that.)
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« Reply #1292 on: October 17, 2007, 09:45:46 PM »

Klondike Natura probably does not want to lay out any more money to pet stores to reimburse them for returned food. The pet stores have it all over the pet food companies-they can just refuse to carry their products for not being reimbursed. If you sell a questionable thing you should step up and do whats right and take it back and pay the person you sold it to also.
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« Reply #1293 on: October 17, 2007, 10:05:48 PM »

Some reason Fed Flannel from PMI nutrition  bothered me
                 http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/NEWS/2007/NEW01689.html
 I would assume Mars also make Exclusive

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« Reply #1294 on: October 17, 2007, 10:38:08 PM »

rce-I tried one can of Pinnacle probably 4-5 years ago. It was so devoid of any moisture and kinda tuff to put a spoon into to take any out of the can. I smelled it and decided to throw it away and not give it to my dog. Something just didnt' seem right with it.
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« Reply #1295 on: October 17, 2007, 11:08:45 PM »

I posted under pet food brands...We have had great luck with a brand called Exclusive...Problem is, I could not find anything through my google search.

I am a rep for a Cattlehandling equipment company. I have great relations with a lot of Farm stores. Our local store stopped carrying the large purple bag of Exclusive Catfood we use. It is higher end, but my oh my, or cats do so much better than they did on Iams or Science diet. I got hooked on Exclusive by talking to our local Feed Store where i have a great wroking relationship with the owner...

So, I was working a dealer appreciation day at another store and they had a good deal on thse same large bags of Exclusive. As I bought it, the store manager gave me the impression that it was one of the few brands that they had had n issues with...

We have 9 barn cats that look better than most house cats......That s all I know and t is a little cold to walk to the barn and lok at the label. I am not sure of how widely this is distributed or if there is anything they make that your cat would be not allergic to. I just know we are happy with it,

Gooduck...Hopefully out of all f this we can find companies worth supporting,

Pat

Pat & RC, thank you for the tip! I have 2 concerns:
1. Menadione (a banned substance)
2. Corn Gluten (recall & general health issues)
The Adult Light cat food does appear to have nothing he's allergic to, so i will keep this one in mind.
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« Reply #1296 on: October 17, 2007, 11:32:05 PM »

rce-I tried one can of Pinnacle probably 4-5 years ago. It was so devoid of any moisture and kinda tuff to put a spoon into to take any out of the can. I smelled it and decided to throw it away and not give it to my dog. Something just didnt' seem right with it.

I was the one that was going to try Pinnacle.  Hope they are better than that now!  They are one of the few that make low allergen foods.  Guess if I do try it, it will be somewhere that I can just get one can.
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« Reply #1297 on: October 18, 2007, 04:46:32 AM »




Pat & RC, thank you for the tip! I have 2 concerns:
1. Menadione (a banned substance)
2. Corn Gluten (recall & general health issues)
The Adult Light cat food does appear to have nothing he's allergic to, so i will keep this one in mind.
       Geff, Let us not forget about the rice four also. The light formula contains powdered cellulouse for added fiber and in the guaranteed analysis it states it has 9%. That is extremely high. I used the regular Exclusive cat food for about 2 years untill I became more edumacated.
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« Reply #1298 on: October 18, 2007, 08:30:58 PM »

Sorry Klondike about that with the Pinnacle. If the dog food contains any type of corn, wheat, soy, cottonseed oil or canola I will not let my dog eat it. The genetically modifed enters into the picture and with all the toxins already in it that are still making pets ill and killing them I do not want to take any chances. I do not eat these things either as they are not good for me and do not agree with me. Evangers is the only canned she gets as it has a variety to choose from. Now with the beef being loaded with all kinds of nasties I stopped that too and no longer feed any to my baby. When Whole Foods has their non-irradiated on sale I pick-up a family pack and we are able to have two nice meals from it. As far as the kibbles out there I thought about all of it and why should I feed her food that has been produced (how many months ago) and it sitting in a bag-how fresh can it be?
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« Reply #1299 on: October 18, 2007, 10:34:34 PM »




Pat & RC, thank you for the tip! I have 2 concerns:
1. Menadione (a banned substance)
2. Corn Gluten (recall & general health issues)
The Adult Light cat food does appear to have nothing he's allergic to, so i will keep this one in mind.
       Geff, Let us not forget about the rice four also. The light formula contains powdered cellulouse for added fiber and in the guaranteed analysis it states it has 9%. That is extremely high. I used the regular Exclusive cat food for about 2 years untill I became more edumacated.

So, you were able to find some faults, ........What would you suggest instead?
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« Reply #1300 on: October 19, 2007, 12:56:47 AM »

As I posted earlier, I am very hesitantly staying with the Natura Cal Nat Chicken & Rice until a similar formula with better qc becomes available.

Everytime I start feeling that I'm overdoing my obsession with Kitty's health, I hear another story that reminds me I'm not overdoing it. Today a customer of my business told me that her cat is scheduled to be put down tomorrow due to tumors from vaccinating.

I am so grateful that despite his old vet literally screaming at me over my hesitancy to continue vacinating my middle aged indoor only cat, I held my ground & found another vet who supported me in that. My kitty will NOT die from being over vaccinated by another scummy money grubbing pet related industry (the pharmaceutical companies).

It's so sad to realize how much everything in the USA has become about money, corporations & evangelicals.

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« Reply #1301 on: October 19, 2007, 05:54:08 AM »

   Hello Patsbeef, Sorry if we seemed to be somewhat critical of the Exclusive, but I think the majority of us tend to freak out when we see any glutens listed in a pet food. Menadione is synthetic Vitamin K. There is a discussion on that here: http://itchmoforums.com/miscother-pet-discussions/menadione-t39.0.html  I am also providing a link that will offer tips on choosing a pet food. You could also check the Cat food experience threads. http://animalwellnessmagazine.com/art/aV72_14.htm
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« Reply #1302 on: October 19, 2007, 10:10:35 AM »

By the time you go through the list of all the ingredients you DON'T want in your pet's food, you have so few choices.  Then you add in staying away from the places (either companies or manufacturers) who had recalls & no canned food from MF.....geez, your choices are down to maybe three, if you're lucky. Tongue

I'm so afraid of ANY commercial pf after all I've learned since the black days of March......I give my dog just a tad of wet & dry......mostly for the vitamins/minerals (which I can only pray don't come from China).  I'm starting to back off even more & increase the home cooked food.   Smiley

Whatever I'm doing seems to be agreeing with her.....she looks great, has lots of energy (too much, perhaps....yuk yuk Shocked) & eats like the little piggy that she is.  When I'm preparing her food, she goes into her "gimme some grub" dance.

I will only use pf that has no grains or glutens.....by the time I'm done reading up on most foods & where they're made, my choices are less than a few.  But it seems to be working so I won't complain...... Grin
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« Reply #1303 on: October 23, 2007, 04:47:21 PM »

I had been feeding our husky mix Innova (regular, green bag) since he was a pup, he's 11 now and has always been in excellent health, great energy, beautiful coat, no illnesses.

Last week, though, he suddenly refused to eat any of it. We thought he was just picky from stress, we were traveling, so we tried all kinds of things mixed in- cooked chicken, grated cheese, yogurt, rice, etc. He refused to eat any from two different bags, he went for 3 days without eating anything. We thought he had lost his appetite entirely and were very worried!

Then I remembered that on many of the forums, people said dogs often had refused to eat food that later turned out to be bad. All the same week he had some digestive problems, diarrhea and drinking lots of water, but he has always had a sensitive stomach, and again we thought it was the traveling stress. But when he stopped eating a light went off in my head. So, I cooked him some rice with chicken & broccoli, and he ate about 3 cups of it in under a minute! The rest of our trip we fed him only that, no Innova, and the diarrhea stopped the first day of the switch, and he went back to normal water intake.

Now, I'm really frustrated beacuse I obsessively watched everything I could during the recalls, and thought Innova was ok. He has done so well on it all these years, but I'm not going to feed him any more. It's upsetting, since this is only one instance, and I hate to switch from a food that was so good for him without "official laboratory proof" type info, but his symptoms do match the ones discussed on the www.petfoodrecallfacts.com site, and they cleared up instantly when he finally got us to pay attention by starving himself.

He seems to be fine now, he's a strong fellow, and I'm going to have to find new food, but I wanted to be sure to share this since other folks' posts on this forum were so helpful to me in all my research during the big recall. Any food suggestions would be appreciated, also!

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« Reply #1304 on: October 23, 2007, 05:20:50 PM »

leavesofjoy- I am glad he's doing better. Look in the brands by experience thread for some ideas. I'm sorry I can't recommend anything. We are all homemade here with Zukes treats for backup if I run out of homemade bones.
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