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« Reply #60 on: March 11, 2008, 04:54:38 PM » |
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Carol, my pet thanks you a millon times! and so glad that PC got the USA today to run with the story. I have wondered and asked so many times....how did Iams know?  but not sure that close proximity would be the answer, not sure how much they share with one another. Maybe within the companies, someone remembered the 2004 recall.... Question re: RC recall with cyanuric acid. If it didn't contain melamine, how would those animals produce melamine/cyanuric acid crystals?? Katie |
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« Reply #61 on: March 11, 2008, 05:37:49 PM » |
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I agree, Katie, that proximity alone only quacks like a possibility. But can you imagine
a 2004 massive pf recall with a follow-up lawsuit going undiscussed at all those PFI meetings and
continuing education seminars? Or not being discussed in Toronto via the good old boys network that
so pervades this callous industry?
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« Reply #62 on: March 11, 2008, 06:50:23 PM » |
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According to USA Today: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-03-10-petfood_N.htm"The outbreak of contamination in pet foods that killed hundreds and perhaps thousands of cats and dogs last year in the USA wasn't the first such incident, veterinary pathologists have determined. An outbreak in 2004 that also involved pet foods contaminated with industrial chemicals sickened more than 6,000 dogs and a smaller number of cats across Asia. Kidney failure in the animals was linked to Pedigree dog foods and Whiskas cat foods manufactured in Thailand by Mars Inc. Thousands of pets died, according to Asian media reports at the time. .... It was a comment by a Korean graduate student amid the 2007 outbreak that led Cathy Brown, a specialist in renal pathology at Georgia's Athens Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory, to suspect this had happened before. Brown eventually tracked down tissue samples from the pets that died in 2004 at the Kyungpook National University in Korea. The sample contained the same type of insoluble crystals found in U.S. pets in the 2007 outbreak, which killed at least 347 cats and dogs, according to preliminary data gathered by Wilson Rumbeiha at Michigan State University-Lansing. The exact number is believed to be much higher but in the absence of a structured reporting system has not been determined. The Georgia paper was published last fall in the Journal of Veterinary Diagnostic Investigation but largely went unnoticed until it was picked up by the blog." |
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« Reply #63 on: March 11, 2008, 09:43:31 PM » |
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Thank you for posting that. I seldom pick up a paper. How sad and what a shame to see this has happened before and who knows..maybe even before that  |
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« Reply #64 on: March 11, 2008, 09:48:39 PM » |
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You are welcome. I was in shock when I read this happened over there and we heard nothing.....maybe if the word had gotten out what happened in the US could have been avoided....of course I've heard of people questioning prior to the recall why their cats got sick and died....like my friend Sylvia whose cat got real sick (renal failure) and died - she fed him Iams....
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« Reply #66 on: March 11, 2008, 10:28:37 PM » |
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Again, we seem to have the same issue being discussed in a few threads. This one, the one Klondike mentioned in her post (which contains the reference to the USA Today article), and this one: http://itchmoforums.com/news-recall-related/melamine-and-ca-is-implicated-in-2004-recall-t3766.0.htmlJustMe - Do you see a need to combine these? Robert, No offense intended. I just noticed that the information had been previously posted and discussed and wanted to avoid splitting up the conversation. |
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« Reply #67 on: March 11, 2008, 10:32:14 PM » |
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I know Robert, I lost 2 of my cats pre-recall and had 2 with CRF well before the recall here. I would not doubt this has been going on and on and well...many of us lost pets and the vets either didn't know why or didn't want to believe it could be from the food..I will never know. Again thanks  |
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« Reply #68 on: March 11, 2008, 11:34:32 PM » |
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Robert, I just wanted to let you know that this USA Today was as a result of our very own Carol!!!!! Despite the trials Carol is going through with her beloved Harry, she found this JVDI reference while doing some research for me and the trouble I'm having with my kitty Rufus. Carol sent the info off to Pet Connection and they took it further......end result USA Today. God Bless Carol and how very lucky we are to have her with us  menusux, Offy, Carol.................boy are we lucky  |
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« Reply #69 on: March 12, 2008, 04:18:09 AM » |
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Never forget our cats and dogs and the Pet Food Recalls of 2007; the reason most of us are here!
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« Reply #70 on: March 12, 2008, 05:15:03 AM » |
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Thank you Carol - and thanks JustMe for merging the threads - I had done a search prior to making the new topic but I must have missed the others I have a lot of catch up reading to do! And Mandycat - no offense taken.... I've been off the board for a bit and missed some of the good conversations or just didn't see them....but I'm glad we are all on one stream now! |
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« Reply #71 on: March 12, 2008, 05:22:42 AM » |
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I would highly recommend either getting the whole article from the JVDI (have to buy it) or copying the link to send to your vets---my vet did not know and was very happy to have this info as he is an internal medicine/kidney specialist! I was enlightened to read the whole article as it discusses acute vs chronic vs sublethal MARF....  here's the link again--- http://jvdi.org/cgi/content/abstract/19/5/525edited to thank whoever mal is-----that poster found the article way back when--sept ---just "slipped under our radar" then---however maybe it was just supposed to come out this week---I think more news might pick this up as this is the one year from the announcement!  ps--I wish I had a dollar for everytime I have seen my profile being read by guest since this broke! |
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« Reply #72 on: March 12, 2008, 11:06:24 AM » |
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Robert, I just wanted to let you know that this USA Today was as a result of our very own Carol!!!!! Despite the trials Carol is going through with her beloved Harry, she found this JVDI reference while doing some research for me and the trouble I'm having with my kitty Rufus. Carol sent the info off to Pet Connection and they took it further......end result USA Today. God Bless Carol and how very lucky we are to have her with us menusux, Offy, Carol.................boy are we lucky Maybe USA Today should start reading Itchmo as well as Pet Connection. They would find out a lot, especially if their reading extended to this forum... |
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« Reply #73 on: March 13, 2008, 08:20:22 PM » |
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Well seems kudos are in order. Now we have two stars on here. Carol's baby Harry with his pic in the newspaper and Don Earl on the radio.
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« Reply #74 on: March 13, 2008, 09:52:22 PM » |
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Congrats Don ! Every time someone is interviewed,its a chance to let others know how far reaching this was. I am very interested in the ExperTox part also. Finally a chance for them to talk,instead of being semi-slandered by the pfi,fda & pf co's.
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