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ThreeBadKitties
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« on: April 27, 2007, 12:30:36 PM »

Does anyone know where Felidae is made? 

The PetFoodList has this info - but I'm hoping someone has more information on where it's produced. Smiley

Thank you!

Canidae (verified by company 3/28/07, updated 4/18/07)

Brands include Canidae and Felidae
No products made by Menu Foods
All ingredients are grown in the US and are also processed here.
No wheat gluten is used in their products.
All products are free of corn, wheat, soy and all grain fractions
Canidae does not use glutens in any form. (from website 4/18/07)
We do not import any ingredients from China or overseas. (from website 4/18/07)
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reddancer
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« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2007, 12:59:26 PM »

Evangers for canned and Pied Piper for dry.
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ThreeBadKitties
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« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2007, 01:04:40 PM »

Thanks very much Smiley
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Endaar
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« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2007, 01:51:14 PM »

Hmmn, I had suspected it was Evangers for the wet though this is the first time I've seen that posted anywhere.

For the dry, are you referring to the dog or cat food? I was told the dry cat food was manufactured in-house.

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auntie
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« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2007, 11:30:20 AM »

Before I switch my cat's food yet again, I wanted to get a little more input on Felidae.  It seems to be one of the few brands out there not manufactured by American or Menu, with ingredients from the US.  But, I noticed it is not grain free...any thoughts out there on this?  My cat is currently on Wellness grain free canned but given their affiliation with American, I am too nervous to continue feeding him this.  I want to move to raw but I need a canned food to give him during that transition time frame.  Any comments are appreciated!  Thank you.
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« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2007, 12:02:55 PM »

I went to a high end pet store to get some Felidae for my cats (had been feeding Natural Balance  Embarrassed).  While there, the sales person told me that she and the store owner were feeding their cats Aretmis.  I bought both brands to try.  I had read generally good things about Felidae here and on other forums but I wasn't crazy about it.  One cat had no interest at all.  The other liked one of the flavors but unfortunately, she vomited the food right after eating it.  The other formula had rice in it and she really didn't like that and wouldn't eat it either. 

The Artemis wet is pretty much grain free and both cats like it.  I'm hesitating, however because it has menadione in it.  This is clearly not optimal.  On the other hand, I'm not certain if there really is a toxicity issue based on the amount that is in a can of cat food (I just don't have the information about this yet).  It's too bad because otherwise, Artemis is essentially grain free, not associated with Menu or ANI (it's made by Evangers) and there is, as far as I can see, no concern related to glutens or any type of protein concentrates. 

So...menadione or melamine?  What a choice, huh?
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zanzie
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« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2007, 12:05:26 PM »

I tried Felidae as a last resort when NB started recalls. My cats wouldn't touch it, so I returned it all for credit. I've not heard of any problems with it, but it didn't look too appetizing when I opened the can.
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KimS
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« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2007, 12:15:45 PM »

My cat threw it up twice so no more Felidae. Re: My Dog: From Wellness Lamb dry, I decided to try something else so I just bought my dog Canidae Lamb and Rice dry 2 days ago. It smelled weird, like alfalfa and sure enough there is alfalfa in it!! Odd, that's what they give horses. Anyhow, he ate it right up at first, then again later, now today he wont touch it. Of course I'm freaked out, so I give him the remaining Wellness and he doesn't eat at first, then he starts eating a little of it but won't touch his water. So that's final for me-no Canidae or Felidae. No offense to anyone whos animal likes it, but my animals hate it.
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Cat Lady
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« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2007, 02:49:23 PM »

Their ingredients CANNOT be all from the US. Taurine is not produced in the US. Until they come clean and tell where everything really comes from, I'm not touching the stuff.
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auntie
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« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2007, 03:19:47 PM »

I just was reading up on Taurine and it seems like none of it's from the US.  I bought the Felidae today and my cat would not touch it.  I'm taking it back.
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deedream
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« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2007, 03:55:37 PM »

Hi, I have been using the Felidae canned for about 3 weeks now.  My cats dont like it.  It took 3 days for my 2 cats to eat one 5.5oz can.  I am not going to give them the cheaper stuff however.  At the health food store for pets, they only sell three brands of canned.  Eagle Pack holistic, and Felidae, and Merricks. Its the only brands she trusts.  I found out that Eagle Pack wet is made by Menu however so I stopped buying that.  I tryed the Merricks Grammies Pot Pie, that everyone said was so good ( its should be it was some expensive) and my cats licked out the broth and left all the solids in it.  Now I have heard that the owner of Merricks owns the largest meat rendering plant in the US.  It went on and on about how the meat in the pet food was probably total crap.  So that did not encourage me.  I have not heard anything bad about Felidae except that a lot of pets don't like it. lol  Roll Eyes I am trying to get my cats switched to homemade then raw and need to feed them canned to transition them.  I have never seen in Canada most of these other brands you mention on here.  The chain pet stores here sell crap beside there highend stuff plus still have some recalled products on shelves so I would not even go there. I checked all over the city and a amazed at the foods still on the shelves and one little ole sign saying that all there food is safe, it was just cuts and gravy style food from Menu Foods involved and that it did not effect any dry food!!!!!! I mean that was the first week, but comeon, a lot of these recalls included products sold in Canada, and most of the ingredients wouldl have come from the same source anyhow, so that is why I stopped buying anything with the exception of from this health food store for pets.  She checks the internet every couple hours and has a e-mail list etc.  So far she says she has not had any products in her store that became recalled, but that anything could happen. She is also encouraging me to go raw! She does sell the vitamen suppleent packs from felinefuture.com that I can buy and mix with the meat but she also sent me to petnutrician.org to learn all about make raw food recipes.  So I trust her cause she is not trying to push what she sells at me except to say that she hopes its okay, and to date its the best out there you can buy.    I bought a 13 oz can of Felidae that I am trying and they dont like it either. Chicken and Rice with Chicken broth, it was a little cheaper to buy than the smaller cans, but ha ha, most is gonna go in the garbage I think.   Smiley
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Cheers, Dee
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« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2007, 04:05:45 PM »

Hi DD, I'm doing the same thing. Using Felidae canned during a transition to raw Felines Pride.  One day they like the Felidae the next day they don't.  I'm staying at it though to get them on an all raw diet.  I refer you to www.howl911.com, right nav, expert advise from Dr. Elizabeth Hodgkins if you haven't already read it about raw diets and no grain/dry foods for cats.
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« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2007, 04:45:32 PM »

Good for you Nibiya. Feline'sPride Raw is amazing and the best most efficient diet for cats. It's the closest to how they would eat in the wild. I agree...Felidae is strange smelling. Peculiar. The Raw is great! My babies love it. There is no danger of food poisoning as long as you just simply wash your hands and the bowls with soap and warm water.
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KimS
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« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2007, 10:59:13 PM »

Oh yeah, we went and got our dog Wellness Lab Dry again after the bad bout with Canidae and our dog is eating that up again. All day after the Canidae his stomach sounded all gurgley and he farted these gross smelling farts. The Canidae smells funky. And has a weird oily feel with little gritty things on it. And the wet Felidae smelled bad too. I don't want to be too messed up over this but when I had the Canidae bag out of the cabinet, I left it open for a few minutes and when I came back there was a giant daddy long legs spider crawling on the outside of the bag. I don't know where it came from but since I've never seen a spider in our house before ever, I'm thinking it crawled out of the bag. I hope not. Anyway, sorry if I am seemingly picking on this product. When he didn't eat today (and didn't eat a treat either!!) I totally freaked out!
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« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2007, 01:40:47 PM »

Hello 3 Bad Kitties!  Talked with vendors of Eagle Pack Hoklistic at Idaho Pet Expo this weekend, asked about the made by Menu Foods issue. The company spin is "..oh my, no, of course not, we have our own plant in Mishawaka, Indiana...all our Holistic Select pet foods have 'the best' ingredients, etc..." And of course they're "inspected." The pet food vendors at this expo all knew the company line and how to spin it, but only spout it if asked specifically about the recall. Their justification for using corn gluten meal is that, "..we use it to add a little protein without adding ash or magnisium.." ( quote from company brochure.) Okay, so when asked where do they get the corn gluten meal?  Seemed it was time to talk about something else...I am so frustrated with these vendors, not a one had ANYTHING about the recall issue. Perhaps when their bottom line is reflected in the next quarterly reports to their investors it may become an issue.  No doubt a private one. 
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