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Author Topic: FDA Suspends Temporary Emergency Permit of Pet Food Maker Evanger's  (Read 30860 times)
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« Reply #465 on: June 13, 2009, 08:22:06 PM »

I tried to leave a comment on lillypants blog,but apparently am blocked. Amazing that they had no way to contact me for a year but can block me from asking questions or leaving comments Huh ? Someone else will need to post there,preferably someone who has never contacted them so you won't be blocked.TIA !
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« Reply #466 on: June 13, 2009, 11:02:59 PM »

According to this thread reply this week - By Nature is no longer canned by Evangers.

http://itchmoforums.com/your-problems-with-pet-food/by-nature-organics-problem-t4064.75.html
I scrolled thru the link you provided and only found reference that they were trying to contact the manufacturer (Evanger's) in one of the posts so sounds like this food is still made by Evanger's.
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« Reply #467 on: June 13, 2009, 11:16:30 PM »

JJ,
     rcexplorer's post #82 on that thread says that she e-mailed By Nature and she posted their reply which says that they no longer use Evanger's for canning their food. 
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« Reply #468 on: June 13, 2009, 11:19:33 PM »

Thx MC. I didn't go thru the whole thread just where the link led me to so people feeding By Nature should not be stressed out.
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« Reply #469 on: June 14, 2009, 06:56:43 AM »

"strike while the iron is hot"..

Are we ready to rumble!

Well, maybe...I can think of some in the pet food industry that I would like to rumble with (and them me probably)..but what I was meaning is this...and since I posted that we know of another "problem" ..this time with Natures Variety and their "withdrawal"  (If I saw voluntary recall I really would have puked ) ...back to what I meant...a good time to write some questions to the FDA regarding the restrictions on Evangers for example...like why can they just not ship and who will protect our pets when the food is "released" for their trip across the US and elsewhere...Email or write your state legislators asking the same questions and bringing this topic of unsafe pet food front and center again and again and again....I don't expect things to change overnite but if we aren't the squeaky wheels then nothing will ever change...I doubt pet food co's, no matter what they say about caring for our pets and blah blah blah,...will ever ask for changes in the system to ensure safe pet food.  I had said many months ago, the reason for my concerns and emails and letters and phone calls was not for Smudge and Jessica and Harry and Lucy as I felt that they all would be gone when we as petowners saw some forward progress in safe food (and not just pet food) and I still know that anything I may try to do today may not benefit Jack, Lucy, Lovey or Hidey...but I can not sit quietly with what I have learned since that horrible day in March 16, 2007 when I began my search of how something like that could happen...my rose colored glasses told me somebody's elbow must have knocked something bad in my cat food...how naive I was and may still be...but I can not give up trying to make a difference..
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« Reply #470 on: June 14, 2009, 07:20:25 AM »

If enough people rattle govts cage change can come we have seen a step in the right direction in Australia. If we can get action you can too but as Carol said you all need to write to your state legislators and keep following it up.  Jo
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« Reply #471 on: June 14, 2009, 11:26:06 AM »

Jo, you guys are our inspiration. Part of our problem is that there aren't any vets willing to stick their necks out on these matters. Even in the 2007 recalls, I don't remember any vets calling for PFCs heads. I don't know if anyone has a conscience anymore. When it's just the people and there aren't any powerful groups or people backing them, it's really hard to get anyone to listen and act. Still, we try.
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« Reply #472 on: June 15, 2009, 05:17:05 AM »

One of the affected cats owners has led the charge - she has been amazing. And we have had support from our vets and now the RSPCA is on side as well. Makes all the difference when others start standing up and saying this is not OK and it needs to be changed. I hope you guys can make people listen too it is not OK that this happens over and over again.

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« Reply #473 on: June 15, 2009, 10:24:07 AM »

Everyone, as you reference the FDA statement, don't forget to recognize that the statement does not call into question the safety of the food.
http://evangersdogfood.com/about/statement32009_Joel.html
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« Reply #474 on: June 15, 2009, 10:27:28 AM »

Cross-Posting:

http://itchmoforums.com/your-problems-with-pet-food/another-problem-with-evangers-t8264.0.html;msg126135#msg126135


http://www.fda.gov/AnimalVeterinary/NewsEvents/CVMUpdates/ucm166265.htm

FDA Suspends Temporary Emergency Permit of Pet Food Maker
June 12, 2009


The U.S. Food and Drug Administration announced today it was suspending the temporary Emergency Permit issued to Evanger's Dog & Cat Food Co., Inc.

Evanger's, operating in Wheeling, Illinois, deviated from the prescribed process, equipment, product shipment, and recordkeeping requirements in the production of the company's thermally processed low acid canned food (LACF) products.  The deviations in their processes and documentation could result in under-processed pet foods, which can allow the survival and growth of Clostridium botulinum (C. botulinum), a bacterium that causes botulism in some animals as well as in humans.

In April 2008, Evanger’s was issued an “Order of Need for Emergency Permit” after the agency determined that the company had failed to meet the regulatory requirements to process a product that does not present a health risk.   In June, 2008, FDA issued Evanger’s a temporary Emergency Permit.  During inspections conducted between March 2009 and April 2009, FDA determined Evanger’s was not operating in compliance with the mandatory requirements and conditions of the Temporary Emergency Permit.

“The FDA is stopping Evanger's ability to ship pet food in interstate commerce,” said Dr. Bernadette Dunham. “Today’s enforcement action sends a strong message to manufacturers of pet food that we will take whatever action necessary to keep unsafe products from reaching consumers.”

In order for Evanger's to resume shipping in interstate commerce, the company must document that corrective actions and processing procedures have been implemented to ensure that the finished product will not present a health hazard.

Botulism is a powerful toxin that affects the nervous system and can be fatal. The disease has been documented in dogs and cats. Signs of botulism in animals are progressive muscle paralysis, disturbed vision, difficulty in chewing and swallowing, and progressive weakness to the body. Death is usually due to paralysis of the heart or the muscles used in breathing.

While FDA’s Center for Food Safety and Applied Nutrition is responsible for regulating all human and animal LACF processing, FDA's Center for Veterinary Medicine has authority over animal feed and foods.  The two centers are collaborating on this enforcement action.

There is no proof re: this is actually what the FDA report says--you haven't provided any.  These are words which could have come from any source. We have no attachments posted here.

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To give you a complete picture of the facts, here is the actual explanation that was sent to us by the F.D.A. as cited for the reason for taking action (SEE ATTACHED)


This thread is filled with posts like this from 2008:

http://itchmoforums.com/news-recall-related/fda-suspends-temporary-emergency-permit-of-pet-food-maker-t4594.0.html

To answer a few of the questions that have been raised here-

There have been no botulism cases in our foods.
The problem was with our documentation and our paperwork (no major violations)
This was not an investigation by the FDA, it was a normal inspection (the first inspection since the Sher's bought the plant in 2001)

We are also not opperating under an emergency permit, the FDA report had false information in it. We are also conducting business as usual, in every state.

Anyone who has questions should call our office at 800-288-6796 or 847-537-0102.

Thanks,
Brenton Weaver
Evanger's Pet Foods

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« Reply #475 on: June 15, 2009, 10:35:08 AM »

Everyone, as you reference the FDA statement, don't forget to recognize that the statement does not call into question the safety of the food.
http://evangersdogfood.com/about/statement32009_Joel.html

"In order for Evanger's to resume shipping in interstate commerce, the company must document that corrective actions and processing procedures have been implemented to ensure that the finished product will not present a health hazard.

Botulism is a powerful toxin that affects the nervous system and can be fatal. The disease has been documented in dogs and cats. Signs of botulism in animals are progressive muscle paralysis, disturbed vision, difficulty in chewing and swallowing, and progressive weakness to the body. Death is usually due to paralysis of the heart or the muscles used in breathing."


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« Reply #476 on: June 15, 2009, 10:59:15 AM »

Since FDA's revamp is still not complete, many of the new links for the low-acid canning inspection information is offline, but we can work with this Google cached page from FDA:

http://google2.fda.gov/search?q=cache:TsmAYHnbN5MJ:www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cdrh/cfdocs/cfcfr/CFRSearch.cfm%3FCFRPart%3D108%26showFR%3D1+emergency+permit+control&access=p&output=xml_no_dtd&ie=UTF-8&lr=&client=FDAgov&site=FDAgov&proxystylesheet=FDAgov&oe=ISO-8859-1

"Sec. 108.5 Determination of the need for a permit. 

(a) "Whenever the Commissioner determines after investigation that a manufacturer, processor, or packer of a food for which a regulation has been promulgated in subpart B of this part does not meet the mandatory conditions and requirements established in such regulation, he shall issue to such manufacturer, processor, or packer an order determining that a permit shall be required before the food may be introduced or delivered for introduction into interstate commerce by that person.  The order shall specify the mandatory conditions and requirements with which there is a lack of compliance.

(b) "A hearing under this section shall be conducted by the Commissioner or his designee at a location agreed upon by the objector and the Commissioner or, if such agreement cannot be reached, at a location designated by the Commissioner. The manufacturer, processor, or packer shall have the right to cross-examine the Food and Drug Administration's witnesses and to present witnesses on his own behalf.

(c) "Within 5 working days after the hearing, and based on the evidence presented at the hearing, the Commissioner shall determine whether a permit is required and shall so inform the manufacturer, processor, or packer in writing, with the reasons for his decision.

(d) "The Commissioner's determination of the need for a permit constitutes final agency action from which appeal lies to the courts. The Commissioner will not stay a determination of the need for a permit pending court appeal except in unusual circumstances, but will participate in expediting any such appeal.



Sec. 108.10 Suspension and reinstatement of permit. 

(a) "Whenever the Commissioner finds that a permit holder is not in compliance with the mandatory requirements and conditions established by the permit, he shall immediately suspend the permit and so inform the permit holder, with the reasons for the suspension.

(b) "Upon application for reinstatement of a permit, the Commissioner shall, within 10 working days, reinstate the permit if he finds that the person is in compliance with the mandatory requirements and conditions established by the permit or deny the application.

(c) "Any person whose permit has been suspended or whose application for reinstatement has been denied may request a hearing. The hearing shall be conducted by the Commissioner or his designee within 5 working days of receipt of the request at a location agreed upon by the objector and the Commissioner or, if an agreement cannot be reached, at a location designated by the Commissioner. The permit holder shall have the right to present witnesses on his own behalf and to cross-examine the Food and Drug Administration's witnesses.

(d) "Within 5 working days after the hearing, and based on the evidence presented at the hearing, the Commissioner shall determine whether the permit shall be reinstated and shall so inform the permit holder, with the reasons for his decision.

(e) "Denial of an application for reinstatement of a permit constitutes final agency action from which appeal lies to the courts. The Commisioner will not stay such denial pending court appeal except in unusual circumstances, but will participate in expediting any such appeal.



Sec. 108.12 Manufacturing, processing, or packing without a permit, or in violation of a permit. 

(a) "A manufacturer, processor, or packer may continue at his own risk to manufacture, process, or pack without a permit a food for which the Commissioner has determined that a permit is required. All food so manufactured, processed, or packed during such period without a permit shall be retained by the manufacturer, processor, or packer and may not be introduced or delivered for introduction into interstate commerce without the advance written approval of the Food and Drug Administration. Such approval may be granted only upon an adequate showing that such food is free from microorganisms of public health significance. The manufacturer, processor, or packer may provide to the Commissioner, for his consideration in making any such determination, an evaluation of the potential public health significance of such food by a competent authority in accordance with procedures recognized as being adequate to detect any potential hazard to public health. Within 20 working days after receipt of a written request for such written approval the Food and Drug Administration shall either issue such written approval or deny the request. If the request is denied, the applicant shall, upon request, be afforded a prompt hearing conducted in accordance with 108.5 (b) and (c).

(b) "Except as provided in paragraph (a) of this section, no manufacturer, processor, or packer may introduce or deliver for introduction into interstate commerce without a permit or in violation of a permit a food for which the Commissioner has determined that a permit is required. Where a manufacturer, processor, or packer utilizes a consolidation warehouse or other storage facility under his control, interstate shipment of any such food from the point of production to that warehouse or storage facility shall not violate this paragraph, provided that no further introduction or delivery for introduction into interstate commerce is made from that consolidated warehouse or storage facility except as provided in paragraph (a) of this section."
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« Reply #477 on: June 15, 2009, 11:45:02 AM »

Everyone, as you reference the FDA statement, don't forget to recognize that the statement does not call into question the safety of the food.
http://evangersdogfood.com/about/statement32009_Joel.html

"In order for Evanger's to resume shipping in interstate commerce, the company must document that corrective actions and processing procedures have been implemented to ensure that the finished product will not present a health hazard.

Botulism is a powerful toxin that affects the nervous system and can be fatal. The disease has been documented in dogs and cats. Signs of botulism in animals are progressive muscle paralysis, disturbed vision, difficulty in chewing and swallowing, and progressive weakness to the body. Death is usually due to paralysis of the heart or the muscles used in breathing."


Huh??
Huh is right - From the link to the Evanger's site upon reading their statement and what the FDA looked into it reads that Evangers was going to heat all the food the same way as the vegetarian canned. And that the FDA was not informed of the can (tinplate) size change made by Evanger's. Does the size of the can affect the way the food is heated before being sealed? Did the FDA delete the wrong files for Evangers or what?  Can someone add more clarity to this please.....
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« Reply #478 on: June 15, 2009, 04:40:36 PM »

One of the affected cats owners has led the charge - she has been amazing. And we have had support from our vets and now the RSPCA is on side as well. Makes all the difference when others start standing up and saying this is not OK and it needs to be changed. I hope you guys can make people listen too it is not OK that this happens over and over again.

Jo

Oh,  that we could have that happen here: the veterinary community, the SPCA and other shelters, and pet guardians and animal lovers join forces to make gove't really really listen
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« Reply #479 on: June 15, 2009, 04:45:14 PM »

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2009/06/fda_evangers02.html

New ConsumerAffairs story--Pet Owners Unsurprised by FDA Shutdown of Evanger's

ConsumerAffairs.com June 15, 2009

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LeslieK's test results
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