awknddragn
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« Reply #135 on: May 12, 2008, 11:58:27 AM » |
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I have to rule it out. We were doing great, so great, she ws improving, yacking, I am trying to figure out how things can go from going so well, to ending so horribly badly.
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awknddragn
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« Reply #136 on: May 12, 2008, 12:00:24 PM » |
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sorry, should have read the rest of your email -- She ate some other food that morning, stuff we've had recently. What she actually ate that morning was Avoderm select cuts chicken chunks, and I syringed her Hill's A/D with her meds.
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« Reply #137 on: May 12, 2008, 12:03:56 PM » |
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awknddragn--I am so sorry to hear about Sam....  There are some contacts here that can help with food testing if you have some left---important not to throw it out or send it back to the companies....and not to blame yourself no matter what the outcome may be... |
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« Reply #138 on: May 12, 2008, 12:06:54 PM » |
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Pam,
I'm so sorry. Don't beat yourself up.
Could be that her kidney disease finally caught up with her.
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awknddragn
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« Reply #139 on: May 12, 2008, 12:14:28 PM » |
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Carol - Thank you -- I still have the can, but it sat out for many hours - I came home from the emer vet and just didn't clean up. I can always go back to the store and get another can with the same lot number... I suspect that would help. I have contacted the store - it's a small one, and I know Diana will get back to me. I sent her the information. I have a call in to the emergency vet, just to ask about it. I am heartbroken, and I was so excited to see Sam chow down!
Can anyone tell me where I can find testing strips or something?
5CatMom -- I know the kidney disease may have finally caught up with her, but it's just too coincidental, just one moment she was fine, and then she wasn't -- like a stroke. The days before we had played and sang... and then ..
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« Reply #140 on: May 12, 2008, 12:29:54 PM » |
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Pam- I am so sorry. If I were you I would freeze whats left in that can & try to get another the same flavor & date codes. The problem we have all had is that there may be a problem in only part of a food run,no guarantee it would be the same with another can. I'm not aware of any testing you can do yourself other than for ph. You should ask the vet whether they think it was the kidney disease or could have been the food.If they can't tell from any test results they did,you may need a necropsy to know for sure.
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« Reply #141 on: May 12, 2008, 12:48:36 PM » |
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awknddragn
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« Reply #142 on: May 12, 2008, 12:57:21 PM » |
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Thank you, food is frozen.
While I wait to hear from the vet .. I beg you to just overlook me for a moment and let me post some things "out loud"-- I still can get emotional and so my logic is a bit faulty.
At the time of the incident, they suspected brain swelling, fluid around the brain (cerebral edema), possibly detached brain stem, possibly a brain tumor; her bp was all over the place, and her pupils inconsistently dilated -- typically a result of the kidney disease, BUT they did ask if she'd been in any garbage, antifreeze, or was she an indoor cat? Sam was totally indoor, and had been indoors since the day before... we go for a little walk on the front porch and by the bushes in the flower bed - then we might sit on the porch for a few and then head back in.
I don't know the signs of botulism -- I've researched as fast and as furiously as my fingers can type and I can read. Apparently it's rare, there's a study where it was given "on purpose" as a lab experiment (grrrrr) -- but didn't manifest in the cats for a few days (I think 4). So maybe it wasn't the Evanger's. I'll take any thoughts I can get...
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awknddragn
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« Reply #143 on: May 12, 2008, 01:04:50 PM » |
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5CatMom -- I am honored and humbled. I will post over there some info about my little angel girl.
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« Reply #144 on: May 12, 2008, 01:08:36 PM » |
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Pam, this is what I found about botulism. Says it close to the same symptoms as in humans.... What are the signs or symptoms of botulism? Signs and symptoms of botulism include new onset of double vision, blurred vision, drooping eyelids, slurred speech, difficulty swallowing, or muscle weakness. Symptoms generally begin 18 to 36 hours after eating a contaminated food, but they can occur as early as 6 hours or as late as 10 days. If untreated, the illness may progress from head to toe, with paralysis of the face, arms, breathing muscles, trunk, and legs. Botulism can result in death. I fed my pet canned dog food or a type of product that was recalled, but I don't know the brand. What should I do? If your pet develops signs of botulism, seek veterinary attention immediately. Signs of botulism in pets are similar to those in people. In addition, your pet may have difficulty holding its head up or its tongue may hang out of the mouth. There is no specific treatment for botulism in animals, but supportive medical care may be helpful. Watch your pet for signs of botulism for 10 days after it ate the product. If your pet develops signs of botulism, seek veterinary attention immediately. If your pet ate the product more than 10 days ago and your pet has no signs or symptoms of botulism, they are very unlikely to develop botulism. http://www.cdc.gov/botulism/botulism_faq.htm#8 |
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awknddragn
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« Reply #145 on: May 12, 2008, 02:19:15 PM » |
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Sandi, thanks.. this all happened within less than an hour, I've been trying to remember the series of events... but I fed her no sooner than 1pm, and by 2:07 we were in the car to the emer vet -- it was fast
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« Reply #146 on: May 12, 2008, 03:42:35 PM » |
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awknddragn: I am so sorry about what happened to Sam Fighting kidney disease for years and then to have this happen... If only to rule out one type of food, I have fed my cats a few cans of Avoderm select cuts chicken flavor (3oz can) in the last 2 or 3 weeks (just for a treat)... they are fine... I encountered no problems... so, I do not think it could be the Avoderm (although you never know). Avoderm is canned in Thailand and has very few ingredients, that's why I bought these cans (the less ingredients, the less stuff you have to worry about). |
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« Reply #147 on: May 12, 2008, 04:04:24 PM » |
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Pam,
Sorry if I missed this, but are you having a necropsy done?
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awknddragn
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« Reply #148 on: May 12, 2008, 04:19:11 PM » |
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5CatMom --
At this moment, I am not planning on a necropsy. Sam's body was delivered for cremation on Saturday I believe. I took her over on Friday afternoon to her old vet where her "Aunt Dodie" works -- Dodie was a vet tech that helped us out over the past 3 years.
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