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Author Topic: FDA Suspends Temporary Emergency Permit of Pet Food Maker Evanger's  (Read 132500 times)
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JustMe
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« Reply #60 on: April 28, 2008, 04:21:01 PM »

Came across this.

http://outrage.typepad.com/risk/2008/04/when-the-fda-sa.html
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Eventually they will understand,
Replied the glorious cat
For I will whisper into their hearts
That I am always with them
I just am....forever and ever and ever.
Poem for Cats, author unknown

"A kitten in the animal kingdom is like a rosebud in a garden", author unknown
catbird
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« Reply #61 on: April 28, 2008, 04:30:16 PM »


wow. So we are not all full of hot air when we say we're not reassured.
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Arlo
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« Reply #62 on: April 28, 2008, 04:34:42 PM »

"Don't worry, boys and girls, everything's fine."
Rings of PR firms to me. 
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catbird
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« Reply #63 on: April 28, 2008, 04:37:31 PM »

PR was what I thought of all the posts here from the beginning.
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Arlo
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« Reply #64 on: April 28, 2008, 04:40:08 PM »

I wonder why PR firms think patronizing customers is a workable plan.  I would think it makes people resentful and suspicious.
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catbird
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« Reply #65 on: April 28, 2008, 04:54:55 PM »

Really good find, JustMe.  I note that people are posting comments at the bottom of the story you linked to, also.
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« Reply #66 on: April 28, 2008, 05:00:47 PM »

OK, after reading Brenton Weavers information, it appeared to me there were conflicting statements, FDA saying something is wrong, at least wrong enough to go thru all of the press release, etc and Evangers saying everything is fine.  So I decided to contact FDA myself and ask them more about the conflicting information afterall Evangers is saying that FDA's statement had false statements in it.  Well I got a response back from FDA late this afternoon.  I am not posting the persons name who responded out of respect for them.  This is FDA's response to my inquiry about the conflicting info we are receiving:


The firm had serious deviations form the mandatory provisions of 21 CFR parts 108 and 113, including lack of documentation of process adequacy and lack of processing filing with FDA for most of their processes.  The firm was operating the retorts improperly (not venting), failing to record critical process information including initial temperatures, temperature recording devices were recording temperatures higher than the mercury-in glass thermometers. The firm's retort supervisors had not attended the required training schools.
 
As correctly stated in the press release, the firm is operating under an Order of Need for Emergency Permit, which means it cannot introduce or deliver for introduction in interstate commerce any of its low--acid canned pet food. The regulation does allow the firm to have a processing authority evaluate the  processing of each lot for adequacy and to submit release requests in writing to FDA for specific lots.



Edited to add:  I am cross-posting this at the other thread also.


 
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Arlo
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« Reply #67 on: April 28, 2008, 05:05:09 PM »

Sandi K, so it sounds like there is no way to know whether the cans reached high enough temperatures to kill the botulism bacteria. Maybe the cans are fine, but we have no proof.  Angry

Thank you for posting that response.
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5CatMom
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« Reply #68 on: April 28, 2008, 05:08:56 PM »

Sandi K,

Whew!  That's enough for me.  Will have to go through the pantry as I may have a few cans in there.

Hope the 'possums are hungry tonight.

5CatMom
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« Reply #69 on: April 28, 2008, 05:11:31 PM »

OK, after reading Brenton Weavers information, it appeared to me there was conflicting statements, FDA saying something is wrong, at least wrong enough to go thru all of the press release, etc and Evangers saying everything is fine.  So I decided to contact FDA myself and ask them more about the conflicting information afterall Evangers is saying that FDA's statement had false statements in it.  Well I got a response back from FDA late this afternoon.  I am not posting the persons name who responded out of respect for them.  This is FDA's response to my inquiry about the conflicting info we are receiving:


The firm had serious deviations form the mandatory provisions of 21 CFR parts 108 and 113, including lack of documentation of process adequacy and lack of processing filing with FDA for most of their processes.  The firm was operating the retorts improperly (not venting), failing to record critical process information including initial temperatures, temperature recording devices were recording temperatures higher than the mercury-in glass thermometers. The firm's retort supervisors had not attended the required training schools.
 
As correctly stated in the press release, the firm is operating under an Order of Need for Emergency Permit, which means it cannot introduce or deliver for introduction in interstate commerce any of its low--acid canned pet food. The regulation does allow the firm to have a processing authority evaluate the  processing of each lot for adequacy and to submit release requests in writing to FDA for specific lots.



Edited to add:  I am cross-posting this at the other thread also.

And that takes us back, in a sense, to the Castleberry problem.

http://www.itchmo.com/fda-orders-shutdown-of-castleberry-food-plant-4880

"In July 2007, over 80 types of canned food products and 4 types of dog food produced by Castleberry Foods were recalled due to possible contamination with Clostridium botulinum.

"FDA issued an ‘Order of Need for Emergency Permit’ to the firm at that time. This means that the firm was not able to ship its products in interstate commerce until it received a permit from FDA. The agency issues an ‘Order of Need for Emergency Permit’ if it determines that a firm does not meet requirements of the regulations pertaining to the manufacture of thermally processed low-acid foods or acidified foods, such that the safety of the food is in question.

"FDA believes the company remedied the previously existing food safety problems and the processing procedures will result in a finished product that does not present a health hazard.

"The firm requested an emergency permit and FDA issued an emergency permit after a review of a firm’s documented corrective actions and processing procedures. In September 2007, FDA issued a permit that allowed the firm to ship products that were processed using the firm’s machinery (the vertical still retorts) not associated with the recalled product. None of these retorts was believed to be linked to the previous C. botulinum contamination.

"During a recent inspection of these processing lines FDA found that the vertical still retorts were not being operated in a manner as required, raising the possibility that some cans processed in these retorts could be under-processed. On March 7, 2008 FDA sent a letter to the company suspending the temporary emergency permit.

"No products have been identified as contaminated. FDA has asked the firm to verify the safety of all products produced since the emergency permit was issued."

http://chronicle.augusta.com/stories/031108/bus_190511.shtml

March 11, 2008

"Federal concerns about the operation of food processing equipment inside Castleberry's Food Co. prompted this week's shutdown of the Augusta chili maker.

"Most of the plant's 330 employees did not report to work Monday because the U.S. Food and Drug Administration revoked the company's temporary operating permit.

"That permit was issued in September in the aftermath of a last summer's $35 million botulism recall.

"An FDA spokeswoman said the permit was revoked because inspectors found "deviations" in how some of the processing equipment was being operated.

""The deviations could have caused the food processed to be unsafe. Because under-processing by Castleberry in the past resulted in a botulism outbreak and because Castleberry was operating under an emergency permit, FDA revoked the emergency permit," said agency spokeswoman Stephanie Kwisnek.

"Castleberry's officials emphasized Monday that the current shutdown does not involve a new recall.

""We expect to have a quick resolution," said Dave Melbourne, Castleberry's senior vice president.

""We are working quickly and closely with the FDA to answer its questions and hope to resume production as soon as we've addressed them.""

Cross posted from the other thread.
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3catkidneyfailure
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« Reply #70 on: April 28, 2008, 05:43:45 PM »

"We need to applaud the FDA for finding and acting on issues in an effort to protect our companion animals."
FDA, thank you for taking action. Thank you for responding rapidly to a consumer inquiry. I wish you were free to
publish your results on the issues, but I believe there are some restrictions on that imposed by stakeholders, not the consuming
public who really would appreciate access to assist them in consumer choices and worries about furkid health issues.

Public relations spin by companies is no longer enough post-2007 recalls without backup reliable data to ease consumer
lack of trust and genuine concerns for pet food safety in general, which the pet food industry has earned all by itself
through actions over the last several years, and especially since March 16, 2007. Some companies killed our companion
animals, but pet food companies also seriously injured a system which had generated huge profits for them for some
time. It's not working any more and needs drastic revision is my opinion and I think that of many other consumers.

I don't believe favorable test result shopping by industry is going to be taken very seriously either by the consuming public
generally in the present environment of lack of trust on the part of many consumers. The PFI and AAFCO had full control and
trust, and very seriously called it all into question in 2007 for many consumers I believe. Industry seems to be stuck responding
in an old pattern which may no longer apply to consumer concerns.


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Nabiya
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« Reply #71 on: April 28, 2008, 05:52:51 PM »

SandiK, thank you for taking time to contact the FDA as a lot of pet parents are rightfully concerned.  We all must remain vigilant about all commercial pet foods today and forever I believe. 

3cat, you really summed it up on both sides of the fence.  Thank you for reminding us that just because they are small or independent they still need to have the same scrutiny by consumers as the big guys.
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3catkidneyfailure
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« Reply #72 on: April 28, 2008, 06:34:18 PM »

All of us here, myself included, have lived through this together for over the last year with the same goal,
change to the system which killed our companion animals/furkids. Here's hoping we can accomplish that
for all the posters who are here, old or new, and all the furkids who suffered and those to come. Everyone
has contributed, whatever food, whatever company, whatever manufacturer.
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kaffe
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« Reply #73 on: April 28, 2008, 06:46:05 PM »

"The firm's retort supervisors had not attended the required training schools."

Oh my lord!!!...
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menusux
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« Reply #74 on: April 28, 2008, 07:30:09 PM »

For those of you who want to see the criteria for inspecting plants which process low-acid canned foods:

http://www.fda.gov/ora/inspect_ref/igs/lacfpt1/lacfpt101.html

Cross-posted to the other thread.
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