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« Reply #75 on: June 23, 2008, 10:55:13 PM »

maybe this is off-topic, but do I understand this right?  FDA cannot force a recall but they can seize products that they deem a health hazard, right?  Maybe thats the ticket!  FDA says, "well, if you will not recall... we will sieze the products anywhere they surface"   Grin
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« Reply #76 on: June 23, 2008, 11:00:42 PM »

maybe this is off-topic, but do I understand this right?  FDA cannot force a recall but they can seize products that they deem a health hazard, right?  Maybe thats the ticket!  FDA says, "well, if you will not recall... we will sieze the products anywhere they surface"   Grin

That seems to be what is happening when non-compliance is being found (looks like they are toughening up a bit on Pet Food).  Not proposing of course, that the FDA has come to its FULL SENSES at this time, wish they would do something about the Nutro problem.
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« Reply #77 on: June 24, 2008, 12:57:23 AM »

lived in IL all my life and no break out of hantavirus has occured here. I know it was found in other states from mice then deer got infected from field mice. I hope to god that this is not found at the warehouse in Joliet-then would have to trace all the food back from the source before it arrived at the warehouse. The bags, cans, pouches, etc. anything that holds food-also trace source of.
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« Reply #78 on: June 24, 2008, 05:31:49 AM »

Let's see how the versions differ-

http://www.petconews.com/?utm_source=petcocom&utm_medium=hp&utm_campaign=joliet

Saturday, June 21, 2008
Update on Our Joliet Distribution Center

"At PETCO, our business - and our lives - revolve around pets. Around their health and well-being, and around helping you - our customers and fellow pet parents - enjoy long and happy relationships with your animal companions. After all, our mission and our passion are to support and promote the highest quality of life for pets of all sizes, shapes and colors.

"Today, I am writing as a pet parent myself, as well as PETCO's CEO, to share some information with you about developments this week at one of our distribution centers, located in Joliet, Ill.

"Earlier this spring, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, a federal agency charged with overseeing facilities that store human and pet food, inspected our Joliet distribution center. In its reports, the FDA noted pests and instances where mice had reportedly opened packages of pet food.

"Since the May inspection, we have acted aggressively to address every concern raised by the FDA. Today, we are confident that the Joliet facility is very clean and that highly effective pest control measures are in place.

"However, as a result of the observations raised during the FDA's past inspections, authorities issued an action on Thursday to place a hold on the receipt or distribution of food products from our Joliet facility.


"It is important for you to know that, according to the FDA, there is no indication that any pet food that has passed through our Joliet facility is unsafe. Neither the FDA nor our company has received any reports of pet illness associated with eating food distributed by or sold at PETCO stores.

"I am actively involved in discussions and decisions as we address this matter. As an organization and as pet parents, all of us at PETCO - starting with me - are committed to complying fully with all FDA requirements, and we are working with officials to understand and address any continuing concerns.

"For 43 years, our most important priority has been and continues to be to make it easier for pet parents to love and care for their animal companions. It's what we do and it's why we're here.

"We appreciate and take seriously the trust you place in us to help care for your animal family members. You can count on us to work hard to earn that trust every day.

"Sincerely,

"Jim Myers
"PETCO CEO"

http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/NEWS/2008/NEW01854.html

June 19, 2008
FDA Requests Seizure of Animal Food Products at PETCO Distribution Center

"Today, at the request of the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), U.S. Marshals seized various animal food products stored under unsanitary conditions at the PETCO Animal Supplies Distribution Center located in Joliet, Ill., pursuant to a warrant issued by the United States District Court in Chicago.

"U.S. Marshals seized all FDA-regulated animal food susceptible to rodent and pest contamination.
The seized products violate the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act because it was alleged in a case filed by the United States Attorney that they were being held under unsanitary conditions. (The Act uses the term "insanitary" to describe such conditions).

"During an FDA inspection of a PETCO distribution center in April, widespread and active rodent and bird infestation was found. The FDA inspected the facility again in May and found continuing and widespread infestation.

""We simply will not allow a company to store foods under filthy and unsanitary conditions that occur as a direct result of the company's failure to adequately control and prevent pests in its facility," said Margaret O'K. Glavin, associate commissioner for regulatory affairs. "Consumers expect that such safeguards will be in place not only for human food, but for pet food as well."

"The distribution center in Joliet, Ill., provides pet food products and supplies to PETCO retail stores in 16 states including Alabama, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, Ohio, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas, and Wisconsin.

"FDA has no reports of pet illness or death associated with consumption of animal food distributed by PETCO, and does not have evidence that the food is unsafe for animals. However, the seized products were in permeable packages and held under conditions that could affect the food's integrity and quality.

"As a precaution, consumers who have handled products originating from the PETCO distribution center should thoroughly wash their hands with hot water and soap. Any surfaces that came in contact with the packages should be washed as well. Consumers are further advised as a precaution to thoroughly wash products sold in cans and glass containers from PETCO in the 16 affected states.

"If a pet has become ill after eating these food products, pet owners should contact their veterinarian and report illnesses to FDA state consumer complaint coordinators."

http://cbs2chicago.com/local/petco.warehouse.infestation.2.752585.html

CBS2Chicago June 19, 2008

Feds: PETCO Warehouse Infested With Rodents, Birds

"Federal marshals acting on a warrant seized pet food and products from the Joliet PETCO warehouse Thursday afternoon. That facility supplies products to stores in 16 states, including Illinois and Indiana.

"Federal authorities said the warehouse on Rock Creek Boulevard in Joliet was overrun with birds and rodents, some of which had been gnawing at bags of pet food. During two inspections in April and May, investigators said they found animals and excrement inside, including 26 live rodents, 7 dead rodents, 30 birds, 1,300 rodent droppings and what appeared to be urine stains in and around stored containers of pet food."

OK-- the Petco version is that nothing was seized, but they are not permitted to either receive or ship products from the Joliet warehouse.  Petco has it that there were only mice and they just opened some bags of food--didn't do what comes naturally anywhere.

FDA seized the products and found plenty of rodents and birds and advises those who purchased product which came from this warehouse to take sanitation precautions.  FDA did not say all of the rodents were mice.

CBS 2 Chicago reported that the products were seized and there were 26 live rodents, 7 dead rodents, 30 birds, 1,300 rodent droppings and what appeared to be urine stains in and around stored containers of pet food, based on the information they received from FDA.  This report also doesn't say that all of the rodents were mice either.

So Petco doesn't officially admit that the pet products were physically removed from their Joliet, IL premises by US Marshals acting under a Federal court order, nor that there was more than mice and them opening bags of pet food involved.

While it's believable to me that they would not be permitted to accept deliveries nor ship from the warehouse because of this, it seems it was important for Petco not to mention that these products were legaly removed from the facility because of filth. 

Anybody waiting to hear "FDA misspoke"?  We've heard THAT one before......... Roll Eyes

When we did the comparison in the quoted post, we saw that Petco mentioned only that there were mice in the warehouse and completely omitted the seizure of the pet products by US Marshals.  FDA can't issue a more official account than this--here's the Commissioner of FDA, Dr. Andrew von Eschenbach-

http://www.fda.gov/oc/vonEschenbach/andys_take/default.html

"This week, at FDA’s request, United States Marshals seized tons of animal food products at a major pet food distribution warehouse because they were being stored under unsanitary conditions. While you know that the mission of the FDA is to protect and promote the health of you and your family, you may not have realized that our mission also includes safeguarding the health of your pets. In fact, both FDA's Center for Veterinary Medicine as well as our Center for Food Safety and Applied Nutrition regulate the food and feed we give our pets and livestock, and the Center for Veterinary Medicine also regulates medicines for animals.

"My take on this is that FDA remains committed to doing what is required to protect and promote the health of you and your family – including your family pet. The FDA will not allow a company to engage in practices of unsafe or unsanitary production or processing of food or feed that endanger the life of any person or any animal.

"During an inspection FDA inspectors found that the pet food facility was heavily infested with various pests, such as rats, mice, and birds. The company was told to fix the problem, and when it was determined that the company had not made the necessary corrections, we had those products seized to prevent them from reaching your pet. I would like to reassure you that the pet food that is currently in retail stores is not involved in this problem and can be purchased and used with confidence.

"Last week, I told you the best way to deal with a problem is to prevent it from ever happening. FDA is committed to using our resources and authorities to do just that. This week, we believe we prevented your pets from being harmed."

http://www.fda.gov/oc/voneschenbach/andys_take/audio/06-20-08_fda_protecting_our_pets.mp3

MP3 audio file of the statement.

Once more we see the seizure of goods Petco omits from their statement and the rats and birds they left out of it too.  We see that Petco believes they were doing everything to make necessary corrections, but FDA didn't, thus the seizure of their inventory.  It's nice to see that FDA says that the current store stock is not affected by the warehouse problems; we had no real word about the safety of the items in their stores until this.
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« Reply #79 on: June 24, 2008, 08:10:28 AM »

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(FDA)
"During an FDA inspection of a PETCO distribution center in April, widespread and active rodent and bird infestation was found. The FDA inspected the facility again in May and found continuing and widespread infestation.

(PetCo CEO Myers)
"However, as a result of the observations raised during the FDA's past inspections, authorities issued an action on Thursday to place a hold on the receipt or distribution of food products from our Joliet facility

(Commissioner of FDA, Dr. Andrew von Eschenbach)
This week, at FDA’s request, United States Marshals seized tons of animal food products at a major pet food distribution warehouse because they were being stored under unsanitary conditions.

During an inspection FDA inspectors found that the pet food facility was heavily infested with various pests, such as rats, mice, and birds. The company was told to fix the problem, and when it was determined that the company had not made the necessary corrections, we had those products seized to prevent them from reaching your pet. I would like to reassure you that the pet food that is currently in retail stores is not involved in this problem and can be purchased and used with confidence.



There is one significant piece of missing information in this.  The FDA inspections took place in April and May, both resulting in discoveries of unsanitary conditions.  US Marshals seized “tons” of product on June 19 because conditions were still “unsanitary”.  CEO Myers states the “hold” was issued on Thursday (June 19) on receipt or distribution of food product from the facility.  Yet, von Eschenbach “assures” consumers they can purchase product at retail stores with “confidence.” 

So, if the “hold” was issued on June 19 for shipments out of the facility, where is the product that was shipped out between April and June 19?  A warehouse suppling stores in 16 states would have a lot of inventory in it.  I don’t share the same assurance of confidence in purchases at the retail stores. 
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« Reply #80 on: June 24, 2008, 08:14:04 AM »

I had emailed Petco and I specifically asked if they were going to sterilize stores. They "responded" with the corporate spiel. They did not answer about the store situations and product that had been shipped around that warehouse's region. 
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« Reply #81 on: June 24, 2008, 08:42:58 AM »

Instead of contacting the corporation and having them respond with the standard corporate spiel,
why not try contacting the local city, county, and state health departments' inspectors and see
which of them may be interested in this issue as it relates to the LOCAL retail stores that received
product from the distribution center? If the product shipped in was perhaps unsanitary when shipped
from April to June, then perhaps the local inspectors might want to take additional local actions. I'd
never presume that the local inspectors have been involved in or informed of the FDA actions.

Every locale will be different in their jurisdictions and interest in the case. And each probably have
some jurisdiction simply due to the retail business licensing aspect. The Laws vary from State to
State, county to county, and city to city...

Nothing ventured, nothing gained. This might "help" them clean up unsanitary product if present
instead of being permitted to sell it which seems the FDA's intent given no seizures between
April and June nor at stores?
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« Reply #82 on: June 24, 2008, 08:57:24 AM »

 Wink The PetCo at Mt Zion close to me closed a few months ago  I'll check the others and see what's up. However, Georgia is not in the distribution list... I found it strange. We're beside of Alabama LOL and when I order online it comes from IL.

 
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« Reply #83 on: June 24, 2008, 11:59:52 AM »

I had been thinking the same thing as kaffe; since FDA can't recall they will seize product.  That's good for a change. Petco and PFI - same old same old and hope they squeak by with continued money in the pocket. It's scarey to think some immune compromised child might come in contact with some "unkown" agent - and the FDA must really be concerned if they are saying: wash cans,etc.

Donna, I agree - April and May are a big time frame. A lot of product in commerce. Not knowing what the "agent" is, there could be a lot of cross contamination also. I also would think distribution centers share product between one another.

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« Reply #84 on: June 24, 2008, 02:16:22 PM »

Complete concern over product between April and May also.  Somehow, this word needs to get out?  The more folks that don't purchase food from the store (sorry Wellness - you might want to rethink your business partners from now on), the better the bottom line is hit.

I'd be warning the public NOT TO BUY ANY PET PRODUCTS FROM PETCO.

 There, feel a lot better.
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« Reply #85 on: June 27, 2008, 08:31:07 AM »

 just wanted to  send an update from my post from last week. i mentioned that my  son works at a petco store unloading trucks friday morning. well no truck today because of the fact  that they cannot ship any food from the joliet distribution warehouse to any stores. so i asked him what do you do when they run low on a paticular brand of food. well we call up another store and they ship it to us. they can move food inventory from store to store that is already in their store inventory. makes you wonder about any cross  contaminatin of food product that might be tainted  just wondering if their will be short supplies in all their stores.
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« Reply #86 on: June 27, 2008, 08:35:08 AM »

Bear, thanks for the update and the interesting info on how that all works.  I hope your son isnt losing too much income over this, that wouldnt be good.  Please keep us posted, I like knowing the progress of stuff like this.  And yes, it does make one worry about possibilities of cross-contamination.
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« Reply #87 on: June 27, 2008, 08:44:14 AM »

Got an email sale yesterday from Only Natural Pet & it has a post about the Petco FDA problem on its site.
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« Reply #88 on: June 27, 2008, 08:52:21 AM »

PetCo shipped my order of canned from New Jersey instead of Illinois... thank heavens for small favors.
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« Reply #89 on: June 27, 2008, 10:47:40 AM »

So how do you know where the product is shipped from (I understand when you mail order) but I mean at a store .  I live in MA I need kitty litter and that is the only place I can buy Worlds Best.  I was also looking forward to getting Wellness since the store I buy from only has two flavors.

Should I buy from Petco or would you all say no?  And if they are moving stuff from store to store you wouldn't know where it came from anyway.  Plus if you buy from an online store you don't know if it is from a  rodent infested warehouse anyway right? Angry

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