JustMe
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« on: December 02, 2007, 08:42:38 AM » |
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One Doolittler veterinarian's point of view: "Breaking news" on the pet food recall rankles :: Vet P.O.V. 12/02/07 Friday’s news was interesting…Michigan State University put out its findings on their research into just how many cats and dogs had succumbed to an early death as a result of the chemicals that spawned the pet food recall. “How many?” you ask expectantly… Ummm….348. http://www.dolittler.com/index.cfm/2007/12/2/pet.vet.dog.cat.pet%20food%20recall.veterinary.Michigan%20State.veterinarian |
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Never forget our cats and dogs and the Pet Food Recalls of 2007; the reason most of us are here!
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« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2007, 08:48:24 AM » |
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I get it........ Just 348 in Michigan  |
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If cats could talk......They wouldn't
Tortie cats are like Almond Joys........Very sweet and a little nuts
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« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2007, 09:20:34 AM » |
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I, too, am embarrassed because that's where my wonderful clinic vets work. There are so many flaws in the study that it should never have been published. Actually, it has probably done more harm than good! And what about my arf catgirl in late November ~ didn't even consider that her "premium" food might be poisoning her. SHEEESH!
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Dennis
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« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2007, 11:55:20 AM » |
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Hrm...
I wonder if they FORGOT to ask Bancroft Animal Hospitals for their counts considering they have so many across so many States??
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« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2007, 12:52:52 PM » |
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I wonder how the percentage of pet poisoning deaths reported compares to the percentage of human prescription drug use adverse events reported to the FDA? http://www.mothering.com/articles/growing_child/vaccines/wake.html"Former FDA Commissioner David Kessler observed in 1993 that less than 1 percent of doctors report adverse events following prescription drug use.21"
21. D. A. Kessler, “Introducing MEDWatch: A New Approach to Reporting Medication and Device Adverse Effects and Product Problems,” Journal of the American Medical Association 269, no. 21 (2 June 1993): 2765–2768. |
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« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2007, 12:17:02 PM » |
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I just wanted to mention that I liked that article by Dr. Doolittler, though some of his other positions I question.
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« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2007, 12:26:03 PM » |
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I get it........ Just 348 in Michigan   |
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JanC
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« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2007, 08:00:58 PM » |
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I just read that article & the one posted by Thing One......sounds like another troll to me. Anyway......I had to post something......& here it is:Dr. Patty: Thank you for writing this article.....I am SO fed up with these numbers. What a joke these studies are. I think it just goes to show how much power & influence the PFI has to get this rot made public. And don't tell me that they aren't behind this study. I guess, because we are pet parents, we are stupid......well, we were once......we trusted the pet food companies & believed they were making a good product for our fur babies. Then came the black days of March & have since learned all their dirty little secrets. I would never again feed that garbage to my dog, never. I know of people who lost animals long before March......perfectly healthy animals that just up & died. I mean who would ever suspect the food was poisoning them? We will never know the true count because I believe a lot of animals died before March & will never be counted......not to mention all these studies that report 16, 348.....whatever......not even close. It's not bad enough that pet parents had to lose their beloved pets, now are struggling to pay their huge vet bills (not a lot of pet food companies out there are taking responsibility for their products & helping with these bills.....gee, what a surprise).......but now they have these foolish studies with extremely low numbers being shoved in their faces. This is just unbelievable. I tried not to sound angry but I don't think I did a very good job......
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Until one has loved an animal, part of their soul remains unawakened - - Anon.
If there are no dogs in heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went - - Will Rogers
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« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2007, 03:36:50 PM » |
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To quote JustMe from the following forum thread: http://itchmoforums.com/news-recall-related/am-assoc-of-veterinary-laboratory-diagnosticians-seeks-samples-case-reports-t1043.0.html"JMHO. Another point, I think probably many, many cases occured prior to when the actual recalls started. This was back when the vets had no clue of what was going on. They were blindsided by this, just like we were. In those cases, vets were stumped why so many cats, in particular, were going into acute renal failure. I've had dogs and cats die of renal failure over the last 30 years, but these were OLD animals, and it was "chronic" never "acute" failure. "Acute" failure is of rapid onset, "chronic" is over a period of time. As far as the "acute" cases, I think a lot of people could not afford to have diagnostic tests done, did not even realize their animals were sick until it was too late (it happened so quickly), or just didn't feel it was worth it to pursue further. Then, you have millions and millions of pet owners who don't take care of their pets other than feeding them. How many of them died?
Don't forget, Banfield early on came up with statistics of
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18029173/
Banfield pet hospital says 3 out of every 10,000 cats and dogs developed kidney failure.
The hospital chain saw 1 million dogs and cats during the three months when the more than 100 brands of now-recalled contaminated pet food were sold. It saw 284 extra cases of kidney failure among cats during that period, or a roughly 30 percent increase, when compared with background rates.
And Antech Laboratories reported in their June news that: At Antech's laboratories, these round, yellow crystals from urine sediment have been seen in 20-30 cases a day, however the numbers of urine samples containing these crystals are rapidly decreasing. Now we see less that 10 a day. Follow up on these cases revealed that these dogs and cats have been on the recalled diets.
If they were found in 20-30 cases a day for just one month, that is 600-900 cases right there just in one month.
Why these aren't being reported or don't qualify to be reported baffles me.
I remember talking to my vets soon after the first recalls, and they were mad, mad that they were not even in the loop until after the recalls were announced."Michigan State would seem to be ignoring things like this. Wonder why? 3cats |
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MariManu
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« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2008, 12:46:47 PM » |
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Well that may well be 348 in one small few block area of say...Minneapolis....because we know there were far more than 348 reports from posts on this site and elsewhere on the web.... But as many people commented, "who saves cat food receipts?" so many people didn't even bother reporting or even try to get in on the class action suits. I have heard of people who got the 18 page form from Menu foods -- an insurance claim -- and got so discouraged they didn't even bother to fill it out...you know it was that kind of form with the kind of questions intended to disqualify you at every turn.... This person has so far spent $10,000 on vet bills for her cat. I keep telling her to join the www.rochongenova.com class action, Joel Rochon has a reputation as a barracuda, he will win against those monsters... |
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« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2008, 12:50:09 PM » |
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I just saw this report in the Antech (lab) News archives re-the number of lab tests they did in June which showed those mysterious crystals in the urine of cats and dogs that ate recalled food: http://antechdiagnostics.com/clients/antechNews/2007/jun07_02.htmCYSTALLURIA IN DOGS & CATS HAVING EATEN RECALLED PET FOODS Antech pathologists have seen many cases of renal tubular necrosis associated with precipitation of yellow crystals in dogs and cats that have eaten recalled pet foods. Urine sediment examinations revealed yellow, round crystals that resemble those found in the renal tubules of affected dogs and cats. Scientists in the US and Canada have found that melamine and cyanuric acid can react to form crystals that have chemical composition identical to the composition of urinary crystals found in affected animals. Findings At Antech's laboratories, these round, yellow crystals from urine sediment have been seen in 20-30 cases a day, however the numbers of urine samples containing these crystals are rapidly decreasing. Now we see less that 10 a day. Follow up on these cases revealed that these dogs and cats have been on the recalled diets. Recommendations Recommend urinalysis on all animals that have been fed any of the recalled pet diets. Note: formalin is an acceptable fixative but only for short-term fixation of tissue samples. Fixation of tissues in formalin (1 to 3 days) has not been shown to cause dissolution of melamine/cyanuric acid crystals. |
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« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2008, 01:36:16 PM » |
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oh - OK... didn't ealy know where to stick this  Did you move it now, JustMe? I don't know how to move stuff |
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3catkidneyfailure
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« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2008, 04:01:45 PM » |
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Is there some new information on how long to test furkid's urine exposed to recalled pet food?
I have some info I got from a UC Davis veterinarian in about June 2007 that suggested
the detection period is not a long time. Is there something new that I missed that has
brought this topic forward again? Or is it more a matter involving numbers of furkids who
were affected? Thanks for the information.
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« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2008, 04:24:22 PM » |
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I don't think there is anything new. Kaffe came upon the antech article and posted it, so I thought I'd move the other thread over here, too.
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