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« Reply #105 on: May 01, 2008, 09:07:31 AM » |
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Thanks, kb. I didn't know that. Seems like a step
in a direction pet food consumers would like to see
more of.
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« Reply #106 on: May 01, 2008, 02:41:56 PM » |
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That is really interesting about Natural Balance.
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« Reply #107 on: May 01, 2008, 03:15:58 PM » |
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kb,
I had forgotten about this. Thanks for the reminder.
Yes, they have had the testing section set up for quite awhile now. You put in your product information and it gives you the test results for that batch. It had to be at least last summer. That's the last time I checked my can information. It would be nice if all the companies had something similar on this sort of scale.
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Pet food posts are solely observations on my pets' reactions to the foods I feed them, not recommendations.
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« Reply #108 on: May 02, 2008, 08:14:04 AM » |
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My statement over at PetSitUSA: http://petsitusa.com/blog/?p=1125Mr. Sher, while you obviously like to discredit FDA and their actions, I am very, very pleased that they came forward with this action and potentially prevented more deaths and illnesses in our pets. This is exactly what we, the consumer, have been wanting FDA to do and I hope they continue with more inspections of your facilities as well as other pet food facilities. The pet food companies want to be able to continue on with business as normal after the 2007 pet food recalls and its obvious by your statements that the companies dont feel they should be monitored or inspected. Your attitude towards FDA and the recent findings at your plant show the exact reason why pet food companies should not be allowed to police themselves and I will be making my feelings very clear at the upcoming FDA Pet Food Safety hearing this month. I might add that I contacted FDA myself for clarification on this issue at your plant. They have confirmed exactly what their notice said, plus some additional details that werent specifically stated in their notice. So perhaps the pet food companies can stop pointing the finger of blame at others and just take responsibility for issues that are self-created. That would be a good start in winning back the confidence of the consumer. |
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« Reply #109 on: May 02, 2008, 08:28:11 AM » |
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Natural Balance's testing & posting results is a good start, but I'd like to see it extend further. What about all the supplement problems that have been coming up? That list won't pick those up.
PF companies should not only be testing their end product for the few problems that have caused mass deaths, they also need to buy from sources that legitimately test & stand by the safety of each ingredient that is being used. And we should be able to see exactly where each of those ingredients comes from & the test results of that ingredient. Until then (which will never happen), I still won't fully trust any pet food on the market today.
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« Reply #110 on: May 02, 2008, 08:28:36 AM » |
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Bravo Sandi K.... I do look forward to Mr Sher coming back here when he returns from his honeymoon---so he can read what the FDA emailed to you....and then see what he can tell us about that statement!  |
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« Reply #111 on: May 02, 2008, 09:43:34 AM » |
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I believe it's Mr. Weaver, a company rep, on his honeymoon.
I agree that we need even more inclusive testing results than NB, but it's a good step.
There are issues of variable vitamin dosages, mineral amounts, possible toxins, overall
batch guaranteed analyses, that a lot of consumers would be very happy
to find posted by batch and date code lookup on pet food company web sites. It certainly
is one confirmation that the company involved has a quality assurance program and is food
safety testing each and every batch it makes that the consumer is likely to purchase, rather
than leaving the pet food consumer to guess about company quality assurance programs
and/or food safety testing practices by not providing any information.
Even though there are still some questions here and apparent conflicts in company and
FDA statements, you do have to give this company credit for coming forward and
trying to speak directly to consumers.
I believe that the level of documentation that the pet food consumer is looking for after 2007 has not
made it to the "radar screen" of a lot of the companies yet.
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« Reply #112 on: May 03, 2008, 05:07:07 PM » |
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Hi there. I'm new here. I just wanted to thank you all for posting this information. I switched to Evangers in 2007, after the recalls. I found this thread because I was in the process of recommending it to someone whose dog has GI issues and googled the company in order to get the link to its website. To my horror, I came across the FDA information instead.  Suffice to say, if the FDA is warning us to stay away, that's all I need to know. After all, it's not like the FDA acts quickly or recklessly. Most of the time, the complaint is that the FDA failed to act. We will return what is left of our last case of canned food and go back to the drawing board. Thanks again for the information. P.S To the Evanger's company rep. -- your words ring hollow in light of the explanation by the FDA to Sandi's e-mail. |
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« Reply #113 on: May 03, 2008, 06:08:17 PM » |
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Yes it is.
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« Reply #114 on: May 03, 2008, 07:58:30 PM » |
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Leslie K, I was wondering if you had a chance to call Evangers again like you had said earlier and did you have success this time with them?
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« Reply #115 on: May 03, 2008, 08:16:40 PM » |
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Sandi- I can't post about it yet,hopefully soon.
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« Reply #116 on: May 03, 2008, 09:00:52 PM » |
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I understand Leslie K, please forgive me for prying.  |
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« Reply #117 on: May 03, 2008, 09:28:09 PM » |
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Hold on -- I just read (in a prior post) that Felidae is made by Evangers. Does that mean Canidae is made by them as well? That is the food we feed another dog. This is nuts. How did you guys learn which company makes which food(s)? And why do we have to be private detectives in order to find out what we are feeding our pets. Thanks. |
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« Reply #118 on: May 03, 2008, 09:39:21 PM » |
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Hold on -- I just read (in a prior post) that Felidae is made by Evangers. Does that mean Canidae is made by them as well? That is the food we feed another dog. This is nuts. How did you guys learn which company makes which food(s)? And why do we have to be private detectives in order to find out what we are feeding our pets. Thanks. The canned Canidae and Felidae are made at Evangers, yes. We learnt by calling both Evangers and Canidae many many moons ago. |
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« Reply #119 on: May 03, 2008, 09:55:28 PM » |
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skinnydog- You can find some of the manufacturers & the foods they make at www.thepetfoodlist.com . There is a list of brands & a list of manufacturers. But like Kaffe said,a lot of it we have found out during phone calls.They usually will tell you only after you say you will not buy a food unless you know where it is made.They almost never are willing to put it in writing. |
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