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Author Topic: The Scoop On Poop/Talkin' Stool  (Read 73416 times)
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kaffe
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« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2007, 12:43:19 AM »

A hah!!!  I HAVE seen those!  Thanks Alek0!
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« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2007, 03:59:24 AM »

alek0

I thought I had the only cat that would meow after using the box so I'll come and clean it.  It's a riot...I call myself "the litter maid" because who needs an automatic box when I come and scoop after each use.   Grin
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kaffe
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« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2007, 01:36:48 PM »

What a well-trained human you are, Kittymom!  Your and Alek0's kitties "meow" for you after they do their business.  Mine do a "victory run" after producing No. 2:  Jaga-jang-jaga-jang jaga-jang up and down tha hallway to announce to everyone, "I'm a superhero!  Look what I produced all by myself!"
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« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2007, 02:58:06 PM »

By popular demand, we bring you:  The Scoop on Poop

For all you fun-living pooper scoopers or serious analyzers of pet poops. 


In Tibetan medicine, because we consider the digestive fire so essential to good health, a practitioner who is successful in helping a patient to rejuvenate their digestive heat, is called a ....perfect healer.

that being said, you must know they made Human Forensic Poopology and Tinkology a 1000 year old science...but I borrow for cats...

...problems can be corrected by rejuvenating the digestive fire with a correct diet, behavioral changes, and, in some cases, by taking Tibetan herbal medicine.

Some recommendations: Take fresh, warm, and small quantities of food. Drink more boiled water throughout the day, as in Tibetan medicine boiled water is considered to be the first medicine to come to this world for the first disease, Indigestion. (Anna's note: this worked very very well when Mack had his two bouts with tainted pet food earlier in the year)

Always imagine your stomach divided into four parts where two parts are to be filled by solid food, one part with liquid, and one part is to be left empty.

Do not eat before your previous food has been digested, and try to consume light food and take some boiled water after every meal. Pomegranates, rice porridge, baby radishes, fish, and soups are also very beneficial in correcting digestive problems.

Don't know about the radishes but do know about the rice and fish and soups (chicken soup)...
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« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2007, 03:00:01 PM »

This is a great topic! Since my dog has been on home cooking - I really monitor what comes out. I keep a journal so I know if some new added food has created an intolerance. Or if we need to give her a little more fiber.  And, if there is a change torwards mucous or blood, I know we have a problem.  Has anyone noticed how different this is from commercial food? on commercial food - it was always the same, hard and dried out. Makes one wonder....

Katie
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« Reply #20 on: September 08, 2007, 08:20:04 PM »

By popular demand, we bring you:  The Scoop on Poop

For all you fun-living pooper scoopers or serious analyzers of pet poops. 


Do not eat before your previous food has been digested, and try to consume light food and take some boiled water after every meal. Pomegranates, rice porridge, baby radishes, fish, and soups are also very beneficial in correcting digestive problems.

Don't know about the radishes but do know about the rice and fish and soups (chicken soup)...
How do I make rice porridge?  Any reason not to share this w/ my dog?  Had gall bladder out a few years ago and between that and also needing to get rid of many pounds and being on diabetic eating plan that calls for multiple but very small meals thru the day, your post sounds very much like I eat most of the time.  I drink boiled water during and after ea meal.  (dog likes his cold...very cold)  I know when I overeat, I get a "tummy ache."  The rice porridge idea sounds tempting, but would this be like rice pudding or more like a hot rice cereal?  Uh-oh, that just brought tainted rice gluten to mind.  May lose appetite!

I love this poop thread!
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anna_2007
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« Reply #21 on: September 08, 2007, 10:52:13 PM »


How do I make rice porridge?  Any reason not to share this w/ my dog?  Had gall bladder out a few years ago and between that and also needing to get rid of many pounds and being on diabetic eating plan that calls for multiple but very small meals thru the day, your post sounds very much like I eat most of the time.  I drink boiled water during and after ea meal.  (dog likes his cold...very cold)  I know when I overeat, I get a "tummy ache."  The rice porridge idea sounds tempting, but would this be like rice pudding or more like a hot rice cereal?  Uh-oh, that just brought tainted rice gluten to mind.  May lose appetite!

I love this poop thread!

My days begin and end checking litter boxes... and their rear ends. This is my life.

Works for small mammals - incl. cat & dogs when they demonstrate intentionality living with/aiding  humans - a large factor for adaptations to their digestive mechanisms...

Rice Porridge - I used Dingbat's and other's recommendations - I boil white (basmati) rice (rinse 4 times, soak 15 mins, throw soak water out, replace with much water, boil 25-30 mins) until fluffy, soft and gooey, cooled it, and my sick, stinkiferous-poopiferous kitty ate it - she got into the entire bowl - and fixed her Coccidia diarreah (sp?) instantly.

PS When I had 11 bouts of Giardia "on the road" in little Tibet, they boiled a certain white rice, and had me drink the rice water. Rice Porridge. Fixed me right away. Better than those blue liver-destroying pills "flagyl" I still have them BTW... years later. Next am they grated apple into soft warm rice... even with that first hand experience I forgot about rice porride until Dingbat etc. reminded me.

When your fur protectors get sick, you tend to lose it all.
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« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2007, 09:13:14 AM »

PS When I had 11 bouts of Giardia "on the road" in little Tibet, they boiled a certain white rice, and had me drink the rice water. Rice Porridge. Fixed me right away. Better than those blue liver-destroying pills "flagyl" I still have them BTW... years later. Next am they grated apple into soft warm rice... even with that first hand experience I forgot about rice porride until Dingbat etc. reminded me.

When your fur protectors get sick, you tend to lose it all.
Once the entire household, 5 dogs, 4 people all had giardia.  All but one of the dogs got over it quickly.  I hate to admit it but I went w/ the vet's recommended Flagel.  We eventually lost the battle after long months of treatment for the one dog. Although I gave him boiled rice, I bet I should've cooked it longer and started him w/ rice water, too.  He was ill after puppy immunizations.  Then the giardia hit us all.  The combination of the two things was something the puppy could not seem to overcome.  I'll remember the rice pudding from here on out.  Thanks.  A dog with runny, bloody poop for months on end is a very sick dog.
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« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2007, 11:07:07 AM »

My Persian kitty came to me with giardia and ringworm.  I used Flagyl and got clean cultures pretty quickly.  The poor guy was a mess when I got him though and terribly thin.
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« Reply #24 on: September 09, 2007, 01:52:24 PM »

My Persian kitty came to me with giardia and ringworm.  I used Flagyl and got clean cultures pretty quickly.  The poor guy was a mess when I got him though and terribly thin.

Oh definitely - Flagyl works like a champ. that's why I kept a stash of them for emergencies only, in the outdoors. What the tib doctors told me was they'd prefer we correct the problem with less destructive interventions - more natural ones - as flagyl does takes a real hard toll on the liver. This is more complicated than saying so what, the liver regenerates... the ability of the liver to cleanse in polluted climes has been seriously degraded... and flagyl over time does a serious number on the liver.. that hasn't stopped me from taking more than my fair share of bottles over the years... when I couldn't get to the rice...

I can show anyone by comparing the pulses of a truly healthy livered person and the average person on a Western diet... the effects of a taxed liver...which you can actually "read" and those I've had a chance to show so (by having them then ingest something not the best for the body)  have a great new respect for the liver (and kidneys)... I try to stay away from harsh chemicals with toxic side effects if there are better overall solutions...

[This brings up the fact we don't just have one pulse, just as we don't just have one vein or artery - each finger has three positions top middle and lower and each finger is placed on different points on the radial and other arteries, and a host of pulses are listened to under differing finger pressures - this is the way the health of organs are read instantly - now that's the way pulses should be taken, making the single radial pulse mantra of Western medicine fairly medieval - what can be deduced from this pulse system would take thousands of dollars of blood tests - and for some detections by pulse -  there are no blood tests yet...]

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kaffe
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« Reply #25 on: September 09, 2007, 02:30:41 PM »

We are "rice eaters" in this household - we love boiled rice with everything.  The only creatures that don't get rice with their meals here are the cats!  But I do remember that I mix some boiled rice with washed down tuna when my eldest cat was 2 and had a case of the poopy-runs.  Cleared that up in less than a day.  I think - and this is just conjecture on my part - that rice acts a little like charcoal - it absorbs all the baddies and takes them out with it in the next bowel movement.  If you boil rice and leave it in the water after boiling, you will notice that the rice will keep on absorbing all the water until it looks like gruel. 
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kaffe
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« Reply #26 on: September 14, 2007, 08:29:45 PM »

POOP EXPERT HELP!!!!!!

My 9 yr old dropped a poop today and it was tipped with a drop of bright red BLOOD!!!!  I freeaked.  Examoned his butt (I always wipe cats' butts after they do No. 2) - there were tiny droplets of pinkish liquid left in the anus.  Wiped that off.  But thee wasn't enough of it to make a conclusion hat it was watered down blood.  I put on a pair od disposable rubber gloves and picked up the poop in question.  It seems normal in all other respects: firm, but not hard; moist, but not too moist.  I crumpled it, noticed that most of it looks like compacted fibers.  The poop was mustard in color -could be the zuccini pumpkin.  I am watching the cat closely, but he is behaving like his noral self: chasing Cato around, dashing back and forth accross the yard, eating his food with gusto.  What can the trouble be?  worms? dietary indescretion (ate something he shouldn't have)?  Sharp think in the food - but yeserday, he ate raw food without bones in it - just crushed and powdered eggshells.  Couldthe eggshells have irritated his lower bowels?  Just in case, I have put him on commercial wet today - Nature's Variety Instinc and will see what comes out his rear end tomorow. 
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« Reply #27 on: September 14, 2007, 08:42:57 PM »

Seems we are both on poop watch now. I'd say just keep watching him closely, possible that food irritated him, happened to me few times when I fed them raw since here it is a bit hard to get it really fresh, and if it isn't really fresh it irritates the bowels for Stefie and Sophie. Mitzie could eat rocks and still produce perfect poop.

Might also be a good idea to give him some yogurt or probiotics. Good luck!
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kaffe
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« Reply #28 on: September 14, 2007, 08:57:55 PM »

Thanks Alek0!  I'll give him some yogurt in his next meal.  I don't have probiotics here right now.  Yu-!  we are on "Poop Watch."
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Laurie
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« Reply #29 on: September 15, 2007, 04:07:58 AM »

    Kaffe, Usually seeing a little blood in a cats stool is not considered serious unless you notice a lot of blood and it continues for more than a couple of days. Some things that may cause bleeding are: eating sharp blades of grass, bowel or stomach irritations, parasites or anal glands. Does kitty go outside?
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