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Author Topic: The Scoop On Poop/Talkin' Stool  (Read 72274 times)
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« on: September 07, 2007, 07:23:10 AM »

By popular demand, we bring you:  The Scoop on Poop

For all you fun-living pooper scoopers or serious analyzers of pet poops. 

Thanks Danielle (who suggested our title) & EricV (who loves "talkin' stool")
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« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2007, 07:35:29 AM »

Okay, this is over the top, but I used to keep a "poop" journal on my IBD kitty.  It is an important thing to note with IBD kitties  Shocked  My poor DH thought I was absolutely nutters.
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« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2007, 07:50:16 AM »

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this is over the top, but I used to keep a "poop" journal

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What is so over the top about that. Hell we did it when we first moved here, had 6 dogs with diarrhea, kept a poop journal for months. seems quite normal to me, like how are you going to remember from one week to the next which meds each are on and what they are being fed and who has the runs. In fact I think we still have it somewhere, now I have to go and find it.

If anyone is interested I can always post results Grin

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« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2007, 07:55:00 AM »

I keep a close eye on everything that comes of our five cats' butts. I don't write it down, but my memory is good enough that I don't need to. I don't find it all over-the-top keeping a "stool journal". A lot can be told about our pets' health by what comes out of their rears.
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« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2007, 07:59:24 AM »

I'm very excited about the new thread Cheesy
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« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2007, 08:03:30 AM »

The poop journal made perfect sense to me, but my DH thought I was nuts.  It's so much easier to have everything down on paper if kitty got sick.  I knew exactly what meds she was on, dosages, food and of course what the poop schedule was.   Grin
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« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2007, 08:22:20 AM »

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A lot can be told about our pets' health by what comes out of their rears.

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That applies to humans also. The digestive, absorptive tract is the FIRST indicator of health, stool should be firm but not like a brick, color and odor are also indicators of health.

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Tell DH to start picking up poop himself Grin and then he can try to decipher which is what.

When we were having problems here, without tracking there would have been no way of understanding exactly what was going on. When one of them would get the runs they would go on chicken and rice for 3-5 days until solid, then back on food, some were on meds some weren't and 2 of the girls had absolutely no runs at all. It was baffling, this went on for about 2 months on and off. It is much easier to track all of it. Actually we didn't keep a diary on it, I just set up some files on the computer and would make daily entries. worked fine

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« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2007, 08:33:44 AM »

Although my sweet IBD kitty, Chloe has since gone to the Rainbow Bridge I still keep track of all poop.  Don't keep a journal anymore, but noting stool characteristics is sometimes the first clue that something is wrong with Andy.  Even before he looks or acts a bit off he might have a little bit of loose stool.  After so many years of having an IBD kitty it's just second nature to keep track  Wink
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« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2007, 10:59:31 AM »

You guys ought to attend shift report in a hospital some time.  You would love it!

Seriously, I have a Manx cat and they are known for difficulties in this area, so I watch this carefully too.
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« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2007, 11:09:19 AM »

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but noting stool characteristics is sometimes the first clue that something is wrong

Another thing to look for is runny eyes, or mucous in the eyes. That usually indicates something is wrong. Another thing that I do for our one boy that has this recurring yeast infection is check the whites of his eyes, if they are turning red, his allergies are up and within a day or two his yeast thing will be back.

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« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2007, 12:16:02 PM »

After reading a couple of comments on the pet food threads, I've noticed that several people mention various indoor cat formula foods that gave their cats loose stools.  "Indoor cat" formulas often have extra fiber and barley (which is laxative) added, because for some reason the manufacturers have the idea that indoor cats get constipated more easily.  So increased looseness would be a likely result.
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« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2007, 03:43:47 PM »

For the longest time when my older cat was on FF and Friskies wet food and then Eukenuba and then Blu Spa, etc. he would have runny stinky poop that used to stink up the house 3 seconds after he dropped one in his litter box.  I used to think that it was genetics and there's nothing to be done about it except clean up after him.  But after the MenuFoods recalls, I put him on the higher-end kitty foods like Evo, Evangers, Felidae.  Surprise!!!  His stools became a lot more firm and less stinkier.  "Uhmmmm," thought I, "perhaps it does have something to do with DIET!"  Switched him to raw food gradually.  The day after he ate his first "pure" raw, he produced three marble-like poopies - hard as rock.  "Hmmmmm," thought I, "perhaps he needs more fiber."  So mixed veggies were thrown into his raw mix.  Day after that, he produced... voila!  THE PERFECT POOP! Firm but still a little moist; not too dark, not too light; and hardly any stink. I marveled at the perfect proportions of this marvelous poop!  Dashed back into the kitchen, put on disposable gloves, dashed back into the bathroom, knelt by the litterbox  and reverently picked up PERFECT POOP for closer examination (feel sensation, sniff sensation, magnifying glass inspection).  Sigh of immense JOY!!! It IS the perfect poop!!!  "Good BOY!!!" crooned I.  Rewarded cat with  favorite kitty cwap kibble.  Next day, NOT TOO PERFECT POOP.  Back to the drawing board. 
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« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2007, 07:16:54 PM »

Kaffe,that is funny. Can you reward him with some freeze dried meat if he likes crunchy stuff? All my ktties are nuts over freeze dried chicken and salmon, and it doesn't affect their No. 2s.

I also have a "logbook", or journal if you like, but not only for poop also for No.1, who went when, description for No.2, and also what food and treats I fed on that day. With three cats and feeding canned different flavor each time (they get bored eating the same thing), +dry+some freeze dried + when available some raw, it is difficult to keep track of it all. Fortunately it is very easy to keep track what comes out since every time they go they meow after they are done for someone to flush the toilet, so we usually know who went when unlike when they were young  before I trained them and there is poop in the litterbox and no idea whose it was.
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« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2007, 08:49:11 PM »

Hi Alek0!  I must confess my absolute ignorance about "freeze dried" stuff.  I have no clue what that is.  If I go to my petfood supply store, do I look in the freezer where I find raw food?  Is freeze dried the same as say Bonito flakes?  I have seen freeze dried treats mentioned several times and perhaps it really IS time I try this stuff with my cats.  As a rule, they get "treats" that most people feed their pets as meals; like kibble and tasty canned food. 

I also keep a "Kitty Journal" - but I only started when the Petfood recall hit late March.  I have columns only for daily (1) food; (2) supplements; (3) teeth and gums; and (4) activity level.  I will now add a column on poop and pee.  Great idea.  But I'll have to get a bigger notebook. 
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« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2007, 09:04:24 PM »

Freeze dried stuff - not frozen, dehydrated, like bonito flakes but salmon and chicken usually come in bigger chunks. I use Whole Life or Halo, I order both online, which one I get depends from which online store I order the stuff.

You can see more here http://search.onlynaturalpet.com/search.aspx?SH=DADBDADJDADADDDGDDDADADADBDCGFDCCNDHDFGDDDCNDEDHDDDECNGBGEDBDACNGGDFDCGBDCDEDBDJGEDHGCDEDADADADBDCDADADBDAGDGBHECNHEHCGFGBHEHDDADADADEDADADADADADADADBDFDADADADBDADADADADADADADADADADADADBDADADADBDAGDGBHECNHEHCGFGBHEHDDADADADBDB&LAP=0&PS=0~12~0~~0~0&SC=None&Action=2&AnswerID=a08ed179-c6ee-44c7-90a2-02d81a7f6ef6&mf=3

Ingredients for Halo chicken:
Ingredients: Freeze-Dried Whole Chicken
Guaranteed Analysis: Crude Protein 80% min, Crude Fat 3.0% min, Crude Fiber 1.0%min, Moisture 4% max

Looks like this:


Only drawback I've seen so far is the cost. Awfully expensive stuff. But kitties love it, and so far freeze-dried one ingredient only things have been the healthiest treats I could find.
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