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« on: December 17, 2007, 07:11:15 AM »

We want to open up a dialogue about cats and vomiting. 

Why do cats vomit.  When should we be concerned?

Report vomiting with certain food brands and wet or dry food or raw.

Is it digested food, undigested food, clear, foamy, yellow-bile, time of day, relation to mealtime?
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« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2007, 07:17:53 AM »

JustMe,
A great post.  Over my years of cat experience I have wondered why cats vomit more than dogs.  I look forward to reading the replies to your post.  I haven't figured it out myself.
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« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2007, 07:32:01 AM »

KD pukes much less on wet food than she did on dry. This despite her CRF which is supposed to cause more vomiting.

Every cat I've ever had has eaten at least some dry food, and I've always considered some random vomiting to be "normal." But seeing how infrequently KD throws up now that she gets no dry food, I wonder how normal it really is. I'd be especially curious to hear from raw feeders as to whether your cats still vomit randomly.
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« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2007, 10:26:55 AM »

For whatever reason, 4 of my current 5 cats absolutely do not vomit under normal circumstances.  Not even hairballs.  One or more have puked up dead mice that they caught when they got into the house.  (I won't go into details, it's just gross.)  If these cats vomit, they get taken right to the vet, it is so unusual.  However, Elegant Medleys back just pre-recalls caused foamy vomit for two or more cats. 

Phantom was my vomiter.  For 10 years she vomited one to four times a month, generally right after eating dry food.  Since I eliminated corn gluten from her diet about 6 weeks ago, she has not vomited at all.  She eats almost exclusively dry food and did vomit most of the times I tried to get her to eat canned by bribing her.  She seems to have a sensitive stomach.  Canned foods containing rice seem to set the best with her, as opposed to all-meat foods.  (I realize I may be speaking heresy here...)  Interestingly, those are the ones she does not need a great deal of encouragement to eat.

I have also noted that since I took Phantom off corn gluten she does not seek out inedible things like dry leaves tracked in, dead leaves on houseplants, etc. to eat and later vomit.
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« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2007, 10:35:04 AM »

My five all vomited much more when eating Hill's and Purina dry foods. Since switching to a combo of Wellness dry and wet, Sheba, and Tiki Cat, the vomiting has really decreased. Gidget, my male calico, used to have bouts of vomiting bile and generally feeling lethargic, but those too see to have passed (knock on wood). My one hairball machine (Yoda) has even let up quite a bit.
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« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2007, 11:25:17 AM »

types of cat puke at my house:

hairballs - watery with amounts of hair ranging from a small slurry of hairs (the shorthaired cats) to very large well-formed tubes the size of cat poop (my feral with very fine fuzzy long hair, these have way decreased for her on canned food).  These usually involve the classic cat vomiting performance art - intense, repeated middle body contractions & chest heavings, those weird two-parted choking sounds, & flexing the neck in & out till the object is finally brought up from the lower reaches of the stomach (maybe from the large intestine by the look of some of these actions)

small slightly foamy water spots, may have some yellow bile in it - these are almost always done in the middle of the night so I rarely see the culprit

large projectile vomits shortly after eating - huge amounts of food sprayed out over a wide area from the cat which overate & is sitting upright near the food dish, looking like he isn't feeling very well (the 3 boys in my house do this, the girls don't seem to overeat to this point).  Very dramatic & interesting to watch because there are no warning heaves, just a mouth opening wide & food shooting out up to 2 feet away.  They usually then look at the food pile with regret over having lost their entire meal.  I add a lot of water to the canned food so this makes an even better performance.  They occasionally will start to re-eat the pile again if I'm slow to gather cleaning supplies, which involves at least a half roll of paper towels.  Sometimes it happens while they are crouched down still eating & it goes into the communal cat dish & I have to throw all of it out.

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« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2007, 11:31:37 AM »

With my three, I give a variety of good canned brands such as Wellness, Pinnacle, Merrick, Newmans, etc and dry Wysong. Now that they no longer eat Nutro(canned or dry), their now much rarer (knock on wood) vomiting can usually be traced to their individual cat-habits.
My oldest cat, a kibble freak, is often "Mr.Wolf-It-Down". If he gets enough of an over-portion and too fast, he will vomit it up. Rarely there is a hairball as a cause. He likes plastic and other contraband, though, and that will result in yellow bile? coming up with the plastic. He is about 13 and probably intractable in his ways.The "middle child"(8 yrs), an overweight Garfield-look-alike, eats everything (and he would eat till he fell over if given the chance) practically never vomits. The one time I remember watching him puke, he was as surprised as me. The cat was actually sick and ended up on on antibiotics that one time. The "baby" cat (6 yrs)vomits occasional hairballs. What gets me is that if the older one vomits actual food, the youngest one likes to "go after it".Gross.  Shocked
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« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2007, 11:58:17 AM »

Since switching to homemade;my little cat has not vomitted other than when he has dairy. The big guy only when he has fed himself outside. I can't really cut his food portion back because he'll just supplement it himself.
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« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2007, 12:48:16 PM »

I have two cats: Kaffe will be 10 in January and Cato will be 2 in February.  Neither cat is what one may call a "vomiter."

Cato is a long-haired cat and to date, has never had any vomiting due to hairballs or eating too much too fast.  The only time he has ever retched was the two or three times he ate too much yard grass... the vomit then was mostly foam and the tell-tale blades of grass.  His diet consists of 90% home-made (80% raw and 10% cooked) and 10% commercial (kibble).  He has never once vomited any of these foods.

Kaffe has had memorable vomiting bouts in the past - but also so infrequently that I remember them.  The first time was when he was 2 years old and he deposited half-digested food vomit with one huge round worm still squirming in it.  He was wormed and there was no more of that.  The second time was when he was 3 years old and he ate a dish of mackarel and rice too fast, he spewed it all up within minutes of finishing the dish.  But he wanted to eat again, so I offered him something else and he was fine after that.  It never happened again - I guess he learnt not to scarf down his food.  The third time was when he was seven years old and he ate 9-Lives tuna at my brother's house.  He vomited several times that night - a very dark brown liquidy mess which was really hard to clean up.  Never gave him 9-Lives tuna after that.  These are the only real "memorable" vomiting episodes that Kaffe had.  However, in the course of any given year, he would on occassion hack and retch up foamy liquid with tell-tale blades of grass when he has been out on the lawn nibbling new grass.  But this is also a very infrequent event.  Kaffe is also on 90% homemade (80% raw; 10% cooked) and 10% commercial wet (He disdains kibble).  He has never vomited any of these foods.

So... from experience, I would say my cats may vomit becuase of:

1. worms
2. eating too fast
3. food coloring, or preservative or other synthetic chemicals in a cat food
4.  grass
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« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2007, 06:44:40 PM »

Oh yes, I forgot the grass induced vomit in my list--we get that too when they eat grass.

One of my ferals threw up when she was about 6 months & there were 3 roundworms in that--totally gross to see this.  The worms are long, about 4 inches in her case, & whip around violently like something out of a sci fi movie.  Stray kittens are often loaded with them.
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« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2007, 05:54:00 AM »

I have three cats ages 16, l4, & 5 years.   Really the only time that they  vomit is from a hairball.   Also, my l4yr. old male will do it if he eats too fast.   He can be a pig at times.   I feed mostly canned which I place in a bowl & mash up mixing in the juices before I serve it to them in their bowls.   I think that the mixing may help prevent any vomiting.   
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« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2007, 10:32:19 AM »

I have 2 cats  Geisha a 7 year old chocolate tabby persian, and Topaz a 9 year old Tortie.

Geisha will throw up hairballs because she grooms herself and usually also likes to help groom Topaz.

In the last month or so they started throwing up their dry food whole, first Geisha did it everytime she ate dry for about 2 weeks, then Topaz started to do the same shortly after that with in minutes of walking away from the food bowl and laying down.  Decided the food pellets were to small and they were eating too much to fast.  My girlfriend gave me some Avoderm  and EVO to try over the weekend and Avoderm was a hit with both and now I am mixing it with their smaller kibble food, seems to be no more puking. 

Geisha tried about 10 kibbles of EVO on Sunday morning and had runny stool 4 times that day.  I have read that EVO can have that effect sometimes on certain cats systems.  Nothing wrong with the food in and of itself.

Topaz never got a chance to try the EVO and now she is never going to.  LOL  Decided to stick with Avoderm.
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« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2007, 05:50:15 PM »

I have 2 cats. Peanut is probably somewhere between 17-20 years, is the vets best guess.  She was an adult when I adopted her so it's hard to say.  Tigger is 11 years old.  Before being exposed to the recalled food my cats only vomited because of hairballs or when eating cat grass.  Their kidney function was effected by the tainted food and I think they both suffer from feline acid reflux.  When they vomit it is usually between 3am & 6am when stomaches are empty and then they vomit liquid, foam, hairballs & whatever little food may be left undigested.  The more alarming part of this is sometimes Tigger will vomit quite a lot of runny liquid and undigested food early in the morning when she should not have anything left in her stomach.  That is when I freak out and suspect that there is something wrong with the food.  I recently reported some of this in the Cat Food Experiences by Brand, Wellness canned thread.
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« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2008, 07:35:39 PM »

My brother has been having problems with his 10yrold indoor cat.  His cat pukes everyday.  I told him about the recalls and his cat was on the food that was recalled so they changed food, now they give only small amounts of wellness wet through out the day, the cat still puking everyday, I told him to go and get blood work done, but I guess he doesnt want to spend so much money..rrrrrrr Angry   Anyhow they took him to the vet , and the vet said cats can puke because of stress from having an empty bowl all the time.........then proceeded to offer him some vet prescribed food.............rrrrrrrrrrrr  Sorry but why wouldnt he tell him to get blood work done??  This angers me to no end.  Most of my family think Im crazy when I try to explain to them about the recalls, etc, etc. Most people I speak to are so unaware of what they are feeding there pets and the whole pet food industry.
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« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2008, 08:39:26 AM »

Have had much less vomitting and IBD symptoms since getting off SD dry and wet and Iams
wet products. Even had vomitting with SD KD. Now using Strombeck renal failure recipe home-
cooked and occasional Wellness turkey and chicken. IBD symptoms in one cat of chronic
diarrhea stopped. Still get occasional hairball and infrequent ate too fast vomitting in one cat.
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