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« on: June 28, 2007, 10:23:24 AM »

http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_5733.cfm
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« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2007, 12:59:06 PM »

What I find humorous is that ANY company would advertise NO NEGATIVE EFFECTS on any advertising campaign.  Regardless of the product, there is ALWAYS a small percentage of people who get negative reactions to SOMETHING.  It may be small - like 1% in 1000 people tested, but 1% of 1000 is a lot less in a study than 1% in 2 million when a product goes to market.
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« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2007, 03:24:57 PM »

My "favorite" commercials are the drug/medication commercials where they have a light-hearted voice (usually female) reciting the side-effects, blah, blah, blah,...."or even death".  Nice side-effect.
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« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2007, 03:51:49 PM »

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reciting the side-effects, blah, blah, blah,...."or even death".  Nice side-effect.

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Aren't those the best? It is almost impossible to hear all the side effects, then you will hear like the word death in there, and of course the commercial is over. So the next time it comes on I turn it way up so I can hear the side effects, and sure as shoot, there is 'death'

Interesting side effect. Actually that would cure what ails you though.

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« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2007, 04:30:33 PM »

Chapter summaries from Seeds of Deception:

"In 1989, first dozens, then thousands fell sick. About one hundred people died, others struggled with paralysis, unbearable pain, and debilitating symptoms. Authorities eventually tracked its cause: contaminants produced in one company's genetically modified variety of the food supplement L-tryptophan. This chapter describes the evidence implicating genetic engineering as the cause of the epidemic and the efforts by industry and the FDA to divert the blame. Current regulations are so loose, they would allow that same type of deadly supplement onto the market today."

"The scientists' testimony before a Senate committee was like a scene from the conspiratorial television show The X-Files." This was how Canada's leading paper described the story of six Canadian government scientists who tried to stand up to pressure to approve Monsanto's genetically engineered bovine growth hormone (rbGH) which they believed was unsafe. The scientists were threatened by senior government officials, files were stolen from their locked file cabinets, Monsanto allegedly offered them a bribe of $1-2 million, and one senior official suddenly quit and disappeared, avoiding an appearance before a Parliamentary Committee. What was happening to the Canadian scientists in 1998 amounted to "re-runs" of what U.S. government scientists faced in the 1980s. When FDA scientists tried to blow the whistle on what was happening, they were stripped of responsibilities or fired. The FDA eventually approved rbGH on the basis of a research summary submitted by Monsanto that had distorted and deleted data about serious health effects, including cancer."

"An infant girl in England broke out in cold sores from drinking soymilk, but was tested as "not allergic" to normal soy. Was she allergic to something in GM soy instead? Perhaps it was the increased amount of the allergen-trypsin inhibitor-found in Monsanto's Roundup Ready soybeans? Could this also explain why soy allergies in the UK jumped by 50 percent after Roundup Ready soy was introduced? It's difficult to say, because although scientists have confirmed that deadly allergies can be transferred into foods via genetic engineering, there are no robust allergy tests done on GM foods. This was brought to the public's attention only after StarLink had been blamed for severe, potentially fatal allergic reactions. It took the FDA nearly a year to develop a test to see if StarLink was allergenic. The test was so poorly designed and unreliable, even the EPA rejected the results. New evidence suggests that other varieties of GM corn might also be allergenic."

"At a business lunch with co-workers, 35-year-old Grace Booth dined on three chicken enchiladas, which she later recalled were very good. Within about fifteen minutes, however, something went wrong. She felt hot, itchy. Her lips swelled; she lost her voice and developed severe diarrhea. "I felt my chest getting tight, it was hard to breathe," recalled Booth. "She didn't know but she was going into shock," reported CBS news. "I thought, oh my God, what is happening to me? I felt like I was going to die." Her co-workers called an ambulance. Booth didn't know what had caused her nearly deadly allergic reaction. But this was September 2000 and within a few days she heard the news. A genetically modified corn product called StarLink, a potential allergen not approved for human consumption, was discovered in tacos, tortillas, and other corn products. More than 300 items were eventually recalled from the grocery store shelves in what was to become one of the world's biggest GM food debacles."



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« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2007, 04:32:35 PM »

In related news,

Seed company Monsanto Co. said Thursday its third-quarter earnings surged 71 per cent on increased U.S. sales of corn seed, traits and herbicide.

http://www.thestar.com/Business/article/230457
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« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2007, 05:01:56 PM »

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Interesting side effect. Actually that would cure what ails you though.

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LOL.  It sure would cure you.
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« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2007, 06:49:22 PM »

How about the ads for ulcer medication that include upset stomach?

I think some of drugs for ED include the possibility of blindness.

My other favorite - may cause constipation, diarrhea or upset stomach.  Now I don't know about everyone else, but if those are the side effects, I'll take my chances with a throat infection.  I actually did that once - got an antiobiotic for a throat infection that upset my stomach so badly that I decided I'd just keep the throat infection longer.
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« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2007, 07:18:14 PM »

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I think some of drugs for ED include the possibility of blindness.

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Personally I am sick and tired of the ED commercials, enough and already. Sheesh makes all the men out there sound like a bunch of wimps.

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« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2007, 07:25:45 PM »

shibadiva 1 million thank-you's for that excellent post. You make the points that I have been trying to that genetically modified (franken food) is dangerous. Sure not everyone will have an immediate effect but those people will succomb to the cumulative effect that could quite possibly kill them. We should not forget Diamond Pet food that was recalled due to the aflatoxin (mold) that killed 100 dogs. This is main reason I do not feed grains to my dog as any of it could mold sitting in silos waiting to be processed. The humidity combined with the heat are perfect breeding grounds for mold. Remember mold in your walls makes your home unsafe to live in so just imagine what it does when you consume it like those poor dogs. Does it also rot human insides as well?
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« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2007, 07:30:45 PM »

db if these men would adopt a healthier lifestyle there would never be that kind of problem for them-sheesh why dont they wake up. Diabetes will shut ya down so why not get healthier?

When my brother-in-law was alive he made a statement that sticks with me to this day: "If God meant for you to take pills, he would have written it down somewhere".
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« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2007, 07:50:52 PM »

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Exactly. Diabetes, high blood pressure, heart trouble, overweight, lack of exercise, all these things could be changed to increase ones health. BUT that would take some work, much easier to take a pill??

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« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2007, 06:45:38 PM »

JJ What Codybear said about informed consent. We don't need to be among those, 10 years from now, who find out that frankenfoods cause, um, problems...

On the advertising, we don't have drug advertising on TV here in the Great White North, but occasionally I'll flip channels and find something about some drug that I should be talking to my doctor about getting. Then there's the fast-talking legalese at the end..."may cause..."
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« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2007, 09:36:32 PM »

Here's for Monsanto:    http://www.criigen.org/cp_march2007.pdf
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« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2007, 09:52:26 PM »

In addition to the ads on TV for drugs, there are doctors pushing them as well.  Fortunately my doctor and I have discussions and if I need to lower my cholesterol and he suggests a pill, I tell him I want to try doing more exercise and eating better and he is fine with that.

My mom's doctor on the other hand, writes her prescriptions constantly and my mom is of the generation that does not want to take pills for everything.  She actually keeps a food diary because her cholesterol is a little higher than the doctor would like.  The doctor would prefer she take the meds, but her thought is if she writes down what she eats, she can see where the problem might come from.

In my mind, we should go back to the way it used to be when meds were not advertised on TV.  Now they've even got Hollywood involved doing advertising (or politicians for the ED drugs).  And you are right, enough ED drug ads!  And what's with the couple in separate hot tubs at the end of the ad?  Like that is supposed to make you rush out and get the drug?  I am happy that many of us are too smart to fall for this BS advertising but you know these companies are making millions of $.
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