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« on: July 24, 2008, 05:49:05 PM »

I finally saw Chami using the new litter box with the new paper litter!  (How strange, Justme, that your guys also tried eating the paper litter...)

She rather timidly got in the box, stood in the litter for a second, then propped herself on the edge and did her thing!  LOL.

I recently spoke to her mom and dad's owners and was told that the parents also perch (they were both feral), and she uses a totally different litter than the two I'm currently using.


So do you think this perching is just what she learned from her folks, or should I look for another litter to see if she likes it more?


The other 3 use the old litter box with silica and stand in it...but when they finish, all 3 of them will stand on the edges of the box to dig and very sort of cover (while digging at the sides of the box and the walls, and the table that is nearby   Wink  )
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« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2008, 06:31:25 PM »

August,
     Sounds like Chami could have learned her litterbox habits from mom and dad.  As long as she is using it, albeit her own way, I wouldn't think you have to change it again.  As for the digging and covering, I think that is pretty common with a lot of kitties.  I know mine does it.  She has covered boxes and even scratches the top of the box until she is satisfied that everything is "just right".   Cheesy
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« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2008, 07:23:07 PM »

As for the digging and covering, I think that is pretty common with a lot of kitties.  I know mine does it.  She has covered boxes and even scratches the top of the box until she is satisfied that everything is "just right".   Cheesy

One of our litter boxes is near the large metal cold air return duct.  Kalahari apparently tries to shave metal pieces off the duct in order to "cover" at that box--especially when it is in need of its daily scooping.  Cat claws on a metal duct is a lot like fingernails on a blackboard.  Tongue

They are all littermates, right?  I wonder why Chami learned this and the others did not?
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« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2008, 08:23:40 PM »

Thanks, Mandycat and Catbird,

Chami is the "choosy" one of the bunch, and is the most sensitive about cleanliness.  Even when she eats, if a piece of kibble falls out of the bowl while she's eating, she'll go around the bowl to eat that piece before going back in for more.

One time when they had just started living with me and I wasn't sure how the silica worked, I went to the box to stir it to even out the urine.  Chami came to watch.  I thought about changing the crystals, but then wondered maybe there was another day left in them, so I stirred the crystals and started to leave.  Chami looked up at me, meowed a couple times, and then when she saw that I was looking at her, she started urinating outside of the box!

I immediately changed the litter and cleaned the box, and there was no trouble after that.

I thought she was just brilliant!   Cheesy

(The other 3 don't seem to mind if the crystals are a bit yellow, but Chami definitely does not approve.)


After Chami finishes her business, she tends to run away from the box without looking back.  The other 3 perch to clean (where Chami perches to do her thing), and only Yoyo and Lulu sometimes cover theirs (I'm fairly sure Mooch is the boss of the group).

I guess since Chami seems to be using the new box and litter without a problem, we'll stick with it and see how it goes.

Thanks!


LOL about the scratching metal!  Ikes!



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« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2008, 06:20:44 PM »

He he he he he... Funny stories, especially metal scratching.

Concerning scratching to cover up, Stefie once dug a hole in the toilet seat when there was nobody at home to flush it for him. It is a soft toilet seat since that works better for the cats, and he managed to get quite a bit of the sponge stuffing into the toilet to "cover up"  Cheesy Sophie on the other hand doesn't really care about covering up anything, immediately after she does it, she runs to the kitchen to ask for a treat (leftover habit from toilet training I guess). Until recalls I had some doubts based on what I read on the net whether toilet training them is a good thing or not, but in addition to being much cleaner, it has a benefit that getting urine samples or doing dipstick tests is really, really easy. Of course when they get older litter box will be provided when/if necessary (though they have little stairs so they don't need to jump on the toilet), but for the time being this works wonderfully.

As for paper litter, if they are all going where they should, no big deal how they actually do it. Though I am not surprised if they try to eat paper litter, since in my experience all cats love paper or cardboard, to play with it or to chew on it. When I remember the embarassment of returning books with chewed up corners to the library when Stefie and Mitzie were small...
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« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2008, 06:40:15 PM »

I found out Mom cat had a one-kitten litter before my 4.  And this half-brother is also a percher!   Cheesy

Alex0, I laughed about your returning chewed books.  I bought someone a present that had a plastic wrapper on it and when I was wrapping the present, I heard crinkle crinkle and looked over to find vampire bites.  I had to explain them in the birthday card. 

That makes sense about the paper and wanting to play/eat it.  Thanks for the reassurance. 
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« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2008, 07:42:18 PM »

So the perching habit can be learned from the parents!  Who would have thought?  Or maybe a tendency towards doing that is inherited somehow--you know, like identical twins separated at birth end up driving the same kind of car, and that sort of thing.
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« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2008, 07:46:57 PM »

I've got some that perch and some that don't.  My perchers/balancers are my lighter cats.  They only perch once the litter is no longer fresh enough for their liking.
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« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2008, 09:40:13 PM »

Alek0 -
     I think it is great that your kitties are toilet-trained, and also very amazed that you accomplished that feat.  However, I have a question.  If you ever have to board your kitties at a kennel or your vet,  do they also know how to use a regular litter box?  Just curious about how that would work.
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« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2008, 10:17:57 PM »

I don't do boarding when I am away, I prefer that someone comes to my home to feed the kitties and flush the toilet. Cats are a lot more comfortable in their own environment. As for possibility if they need to be boarded at the vet's, should be no problem. Once you train the cat to use the toilet, they are able to switch back. Though they may have some preferences.

When I got Sophie we had a litter box until she got big enough to start toilet training. Mitzie actually preferred litter for No.2, while Stefie who is a clean freak preferred toilet when given a choice. During the training, I had to remove litterkwitter contraption for him since he just wanted normal, clean toilet with no litter. Though he demonstrated he is able to use it when nobody removes it for him (which would result in litter all over the bathroom due to his compulsive need to cover up and very enthusiastic digging and litter flying all over the place  Cheesy ).
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« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2008, 10:55:44 PM »

How wonderful to have all your guys toilet trained like that.  That must be so fantastic - to think, no worrying about litter or litter cleanup, no thinking about box placement or anything! 

Not to mention a big party pleaser.   Cheesy
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« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2008, 08:55:27 PM »

 Shocked  OH MY GOSH!

I just saw Chami SITTING down in the paper litter to urinate!  I...I thought I might cry!  This is fantastic!  I'm so happy for her!   Cheesy
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