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« on: October 04, 2007, 10:11:55 AM » |
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Here's an article about a study in which cats fed a rabbit diet developed taurine deficiency. Go to paragraph 8. This is not intended to discourage the feeding of real food, but just a reminder that taurine is very important for cats. My kitties are doing much better with the addition of real food to their diet. From the Cat Fanciers Association: http://www.cfa.org/articles/health/role-of-diet.html5CatMom |
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« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2007, 10:57:33 AM » |
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That's a very interesting read 5CatMom for us cat parents. I wish they had also explained exactly what was contained in the commercial diet they fed, not the name of it, but the ingredients.
I've had several cats with cardiomyopathy and have wondered if there was taurine deficiency in their diets over the years.
Also, I see the nice formed stools in my cats though they aren't on a raw diet (I haven't ruled out the raw option yet). They had awful stools when they were grain-based protein diets. Our 2 cats with IBD have done well on a grain-free diet.
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« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2007, 12:05:58 PM » |
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JustMe,
From the articles I've read, it was discovered in the late 1980s, that commercial food contained insufficient taurine - so taurine levels were increased.
Since then, some vets believe there's a genetic component.
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« Last Edit: October 05, 2007, 12:39:14 PM by 5CatMom »
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« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2007, 02:14:17 PM » |
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I have been looking for ths article for some time... I read it some months before. A total-rabbit diet for a cat is not advisable because taurine levels in rabbit is much much lower than say in chicken or lamb or beef. In a lab study tabulating taurine content in various meats fed to pets:
Whole rabbit carcass ....... 373 (+/- 399) mg taurine per kilogram wet weight
Chicken dark meat.......... 1690 (+/- 370) mg taurine per kilogram wet weight
Turkey dark meat .......... 3960 (+/- 690) mg taurine per kilogram wet weight
clams fresh ................. 2400mg taurine per kilogram wet weight
This IS a timely reminder for all who feed raw to their pets that rabbit should not comprise the whole diet of a cat for months on end. With dogs it should not be so bad becuase dogs do produce their own taurine, while cats cannot. Rabbit should be used only to provide needed variety and if used for long periods of time, must be supplemented with a taurine source either natural (hearts, clams, etc) or supplemetal powder.
THANKS 5CatMom!!!!
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« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2007, 03:10:25 PM » |
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Kaffe, that info on taurine is very helpful. Where did you find it? Were taurine amounts for more foods given?
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« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2007, 04:39:58 PM » |
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Kaffe,
Good find on the taurine info.
Any idea how much taurine is in the cat nutrition (whole chicken) recipe?
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« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2007, 05:01:06 PM » |
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Hi Eartha! Hi 5Cat! I think yu'll find this paper on taurine levels in various meats commonly fed to pets most useful: http://www.vetmed.ucdavis.edu/vmb/aal/reference_papers/spitze.pdf(Homegrown posted it some time ago in a thread somewhere...) 5Cat: Chicken whole carcass has 991 mg taurine per kilogram wet weight. You did well to add additional taurine supplement - I always do when I use the lighter parts of chicken or turkey. Dark meat (leg, thigh) contains a lot more taurine than breast back or wing. |
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5CatMom
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« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2007, 01:53:37 AM » |
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kaffe,
LOL, you ARE amazing. Thanks so much for the link. That's great info.
I sure would like to have a sample of the the cat nutrition recipe analyzed for vitamin and mineral content. May give it a shot if I can find a lab.
btw, speaking of Homegrown, I hope she is still here, but haven't seen any posts lately.
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« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2007, 10:34:06 AM » |
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Yah, 5Cat! But I need to e-mail it to you in an attachment I think! I did nutritional values for the important individual vitamins (A, D, K, C, B) and minerals but lumped all amino acids under "protein" and all essential fats under "Fat"). I will next do the individual amino acids and Omegas in another chart. Check your PM's.
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