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« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2009, 05:49:44 PM » |
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Those torties & calicos! They are such bad girls. Isn't Callie the one that got into the mustard? Maybe she wants a complete burger with mustard and fries on the side.a (Rudi typed that "a" at the end  )
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« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2009, 04:51:12 PM » |
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Oh my, it reminds me of many years ago when my brother's cat, Kitty was just a tiny kitten. We went over to their house for a BBQ. We had just walked back into the kitchen to get the steaks and veggies that were on a plate marinating, when we saw Kitty dragging a steak twice the size of her through the pet door to the back sunroom. It took us a bit to recover from our laughter to retrieve the hostage steak and proceed to cut it up to make cat food out of it. Of course, it was made even funnier when this pint size kitten started growling when we first tried to take the steak away.
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« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2009, 09:31:17 PM » |
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JustMe Foxy Lady and I had a Creekstone Farms porterhouse steak with steamed broccoli, carrots and cauliflower, along with mashed potatoes - ummm. Excellent meat that is tested for BSE.
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« Reply #18 on: August 26, 2009, 11:08:49 PM » |
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But what about all the balancing we hear about? I thought everything had to be balanced with lots of supplements for each meal. That's where it gets confusing for me. 
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« Reply #19 on: August 27, 2009, 08:20:27 AM » |
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Part of the reason petfood needs so many supplements is that a lot is lost during the high temp processing. Real food normally cooked doesn't lose as much,so if you feed a variety of foods to provide the different nutrients you don't need to supplement as much. The important things are the calcium/phosp ratio & taurine. If you use organs & clams ,sardines,etc you get the taurine.Liver will provide Vit A, just check your ingredients with some of the nutrient calculater sites & supplement what you are low on. After all we don't eat a totally balanced diet per meal,but when you add up what you ate all week it evens out. Its pretty easy to mix the supplements needed in their bowl & then add the food & stir it up.
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« Reply #20 on: August 27, 2009, 12:06:49 PM » |
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jada I split the feeding into twice a day with 1/2 in morning and 1/2 at evening meal. Morning is organic dog food (1/2 amount) evening is home cooked meals that we share. Can't afford to cook separetly for her and myself - not cost effective. I just searched nutrients that a dog needs on the net and incorporate those foods into the diet so she is covered with the human foods.
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« Reply #21 on: September 01, 2009, 05:03:54 PM » |
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Never say never. Finally, one of my two cats who won't eat anything but cat food, finally ate two pieces of cooked burger tonight. This is monumental for Twit. Previously, the most she ever would do was lick the grease off the spatula from flipping the burgers.
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« Reply #22 on: September 01, 2009, 05:16:33 PM » |
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Sounds like burger time at JustMe's house ! Its a start.
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« Reply #23 on: September 01, 2009, 05:17:13 PM » |
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Congratulations Twit! Happy burger night!
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« Reply #24 on: September 02, 2009, 01:08:22 AM » |
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Cooked prey - yum, Twit is saying!
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« Reply #25 on: September 25, 2009, 06:35:11 PM » |
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mine love beef raw or cooked...
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« Reply #26 on: November 16, 2009, 11:25:27 AM » |
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So, why can't I just feed my cats and dogs what I eat (minus foods that are bad for them or they are intolerant to)?
Thought I'd bump this up....been giving it a lot of thought lately. My dogs and cats love home cooked food (mine). I don't use salt in my cooking and leave out the onions. One of my two cats that will only eat commercial has even started eating my roasted chicken.
It ain't rocket science, as they say.
dogs: omnivores
cats: carnivores
plus necessary supplements like taurine for cats.
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« Reply #27 on: November 16, 2009, 04:31:58 PM » |
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So, why can't I just feed my cats and dogs what I eat (minus foods that are bad for them or they are intolerant to)?
Thought I'd bump this up....been giving it a lot of thought lately. My dogs and cats love home cooked food (mine). I don't use salt in my cooking and leave out the onions. One of my two cats that will only eat commercial has even started eating my roasted chicken.
It ain't rocket science, as they say.
dogs: omnivores
cats: carnivores
plus necessary supplements like taurine for cats.
correction dogs are Carnivores just not obligate ... ie they can scavenge grains and veggies cats are Obligate humans are true omnivores ... we can do well on multiple food types
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« Reply #28 on: November 16, 2009, 09:14:55 PM » |
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I often think dogs would be better off with table food. My Mother was widowed with four young children, the dog was already part of the family. She refused government assistance and worked very hard doing manual labour to support us, but there wasn't a whole lot left for the dog. Sometimes he got oatmeal because that was simply all she had to give him. He always had a full belly, but it certainly wasn't the fussy diets we all try to give today's animals. That dog was as healthy as can be, never had an issue with anything - no allergies, no vet trips and lived to a ripe old age. Granted, he was just a mutt, nothing fancy or fragile, a German Shepherd x Collie x this & that.
However, I can't bring myself to do it. I want that crutch so I know they're getting what they need. It certainly makes me wonder sometimes if by giving them what they need, we're giving them too much of what they don't need. Something certainly is wrong these days because years ago animals rarely got sick, and a dog allergy? People would have thought you were joking if you said that.
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« Reply #29 on: November 17, 2009, 03:49:53 AM » |
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It's pretty easy to figure out how grandma's dog stayed healthy. He came from good stock. He ate what the family ate, not the leftover, denatured garbage that is put into some commercial pet food, loaded/overloaded/underloaded with vits/minerals, and garbage left from human food processing. No faked protein (melamine), no metal shavings falling off of processing equipment, no workers protective clothing/hats falling in food. Her dog didn't get chemicals introduced into/on his body......vaccinations, heartworm medications, flea collars, flea/worm drops, you name it. Grandma's dog ate what grandma's family ate. Dogs and cats are part of our families. They deserve to eat what we eat, not high priced garbage.
Cats need more real meat, not corn, wheat, barley, etc.
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