Very good points!  The meat certainly didn't have hormones so heavily that our children go through puberty at the age of 8.  My Son had to start wearing deoderant when he was 8 years old and that's what the doctor told me the issue was.  We're not talking mild scent here either - he bathed every morning yet still smelled like a full grown man who doesn't wear deoderant.  Scared me to death - I thought he had some horrible illness.

In our case, we ate mostly wild game so the dog got that too.  I grew up in the country and local hunters would give my Mother their game so they could keep hunting (or that was the excuse they gave her so it wouldn't hurt her pride anyway  )  Hunters where I come from won't shoot it if nobody is going to eat it, you see.  The dog and I grew up on moose, deer and partridge.

My vet tells me that he doesn't use commercial dog food...He says that table scraps are not good (pancreatitis I think he said) and that is why he thinks that feeding the dog from the table has gotten a bad rap...but he said if done correctly with some research that he feels it is great.and he does it himself for his two..He doesn't feel the same about cats (I know I know) as he said he has seen far too many cats with health issues as it is too hard to get it right (he specializes in internal med and has cats come to him from all over southern New England).  He also was one of the vets to speak out about the Menu foods "all come from same place" propaganda...I had posted that article here somewhere back in 2007..

So I mix in to grain free kibble what we are having for dinner (if not on the avoid list) and my two seem to thrive..

Well, I certainly would like to be able to just give my cats what I eat, instead of trying to manipulate all the feline vitamins into their home made food.

If I were to start cooking without salt and onions, (LOVE ONIONS), but suppose I could put them in later, maybe they would like what I eat myself.
However, what about the other spices I have been hearing people mention, for example the barbeque beef, etc.  surely that has spices that might not be good for cats, meatloaf, wouldn't that have tomatoes etc. that might not be good for cats. 
I just looked at my canned Icy Point Alaskan wild salmon, and darned if it doesn't have salt in it.  so wouldn't all that salt be bad for them?

At the moment, I am not eating any beef at all, haven't for a long time. At the moment, we have an alert on beef on the east coast.
We do not get any really good beef here in my supermarkets.  I have asked butchers, and they all just say they don't have any and can't get any.

I have never even heard of Creekstone beef!!  Where do you get that.  I am beginning to feel very underpriviledged!!
I will google it.   But I wouldn't want to order it online.
Coleman is supposed to be good, but I can't buy that here either unless it is in already prepared hamburger patties, which I wouldn't want.

The best I can do is cook chicken for myself and hopt they will eat that, but it sounds wonderful if you can do it, and find good beef, for example.  I do like a good meatloaf a lot.

Would you like to give me your meatloat recipe Just me??

Well, I just googled Creekstone beef and we don't get it around here, I also googled coleman beef because I couldn't remember why I didn't buy it here, and we only get coleman HOTDOGS or chicken, no beef. So that's why I have not been getting it.

I really do live in a third world country.

I've never used it for the cats or dogs. My DH & daughter eat them though. They aren't cheap,its $8.99 a box for 6-1/3lb burgers. Acme has had them B1G1 twice this year & I stocked up the freezer. The animals I usually stick with whole cuts that I grind myself. They definitely eat better than we do ! Tonight they had the newest batch of homemade; venison,chicken breasts & thighs,a little turkey,white & brown rice & cranberries,clams,salmon & sardines with a little liver,hearts & gizzards[green beans for the 2 bigger piggy dogs]. Leftover london broil bits on top & the cats had a little Weruva shrimp,calamari & mussels too.We had beef & broccoli over rice & homemade garlic bread. They will get some of that in tomorrows meals.[not the bread !]

BW received a reply to a location for you to check out (if you have this store in your area in NJ). From Creekstone Farms customer svc. rep she contacted the area and the store name is: King's Supermarkets. They carry the Creekstone Farms meat.

JM maybe your food smells a lot tastier to them for some reason.......