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Wilbur
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« on: January 30, 2008, 06:24:46 AM »

I have 24 pounds of one of the premium frozen raw foods in 8 ounce patties that I got last week..I was going to start feeding this to my dog 4 meals per week starting this week.
 I know there are pros and cons to Raw, then I saw this web site below....Do I dare take a chance with my best friends health HuhHuh?? I have heard so much good about Raw, but there is much bad written also....as in this web site...

http://www.secondchanceranch.org/training/raw_meat/index.html

I do not know if I can take the risk of raw,,,anxiety again big time..

any thoughts
Thanks
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catbird
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« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2008, 06:32:45 AM »

It looks to me as though the main concern on that link is whole bones and splinters thereof, which would not be in the premium frozen raw diet patties you have--any bone would be well-ground if this is from a reputable company.  It seems to me that the major concerns voiced on that site would not be present in the commercial raw diet, but are addressed to people tossing their dogs whole slabs of raw meat.

IMO your plan to feed 4 meals per week of the commercial raw diet is a safe one.
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Laurie
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« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2008, 06:55:05 AM »

  Wilbur, As catbird has said, the concern about the bones are more for people who are simply giving their pet whole bones. There are SO many raw feeders here on the forums and none that I can recall have had any problems with it, with the exception of maybe a food sensitivity to the protein or an added ingredient. But that is possible with any food.  As I can attest, the benefits I have witnessed from feeding it are immense. For every article you read that is negative towards feeding raw you will find 20 or more that speak of it's benefits.
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sharky
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« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2008, 08:35:40 AM »

Raw gave me an extra 2yrs with my Kandie even with CRF... Yes there are risks but here is my experience with two ILL animals

Kandie age 16 with stage 2 crf ... her numbers went down from mid stage 2 to tinkering stage 1 ( 4 is the worst )... I bought premade raw at the vet ... rotated beef and rabbit with organs and bones (grd) ....

Gigi is now 12 ... she now eats homemade till I can get her digestive tract on MY 8 hour elimination ( raw food should be in and out in about 8 hours to avoid some of the bacterial issues ).... but raw cleared up her allergies ( partnered with oriental and holistic medicine ).... she ate beef and chicken with veggies organs and bone... her digestion is off do to atypical cushings but she is back to raw organs and doing well

Raw greatly helped my two ... off YMMV and my healthy young girl refuses raw she didnt kill Roll Eyes
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« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2008, 10:32:16 PM »

Here's a Rebuttal to the website you posted.  http://rawfed.com/myths/rebuttal.html
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kaffe
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« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2008, 11:16:20 PM »

Wilbur - I have a great admiration for Second Chance Ranch, especially in their rescue work.  But along with everything one finds on the internet, you must engage in some critical thinking in assessing the information and the opinions.  Second Chance Ranch relies heavily on donations from Pet Food Companies; so, of course they will contribute to the PFI's battle against the growing trend among careful pet owners to feed raw or home-cooked. 

Although raw feeding and home-cooking is a growing trend, I would not describe it as a "fad."  Think about it for a minute: what were cats and dogs eating before pet foods were mass-produced in the turn of the 19th century?  They were eating raw prey and scraps from the kitchen!  If raw prey and scraps were that dangerous, how then did dogs and cats survive all these thousands of years?  Surely if what the "fear mongers" say is true, the e.coli and the salmonella and the wot nots whould have eradicated all carnivores by now.

IMHO, it is commercial pet food that is the fad -a fad grown becuase of our love for convenient foods and the food industry's need to turn otherwise unconsumable animal body parts into hefty profit.  Pet foods fit that bill to a "T." 

Just a question:  if for some wonderful reason, ALL petfood manufacturing became illegal or otherwise untenable and there was no petfood to be found anywhere - do you really beleive cats and dogs will start dying left, right and center becuase we must then feed them "unbalanced home meals" and raw food?  C'mon now. 

Just my two cents worth.
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sharky
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« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2008, 04:29:19 PM »

I have discussed the RAW pros and con s...

A well thought out RAW or homemade diet IMHO is the best ... WHY I have had two animals thrive when commercial food just sustained them..Those two defied odds and lived Smiley. Commercial food yes is balenced for the basic needs of a group and has it place , kinda like the frozen section at the market some is good and some is not so good... Homemade is easy to balance as is raw if you have the right tools...
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straybaby
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« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2008, 01:03:04 AM »

that is a well known site for non-raw folks. i've been feeding my dog and cats raw for 5 yrs.

if you have bought pre-made raw diets, you should be able to feed with no problem (may have a food switch adjustment period) i buy them when i forget to order from hare-today (aka this week! lol). i feed ground diets to my cats with some pieces for chewing (gum and teeth health) the dog i mostly hand body parts to. i'm in the same room as her when she eats or has a raw meaty bone. she use to be a gulper on kibble, but she actually chews her raw. it varies by dog, but if you feed body parts, you go larger as it forces the dog to slow down and eat correctly. when i feed her ground with supplements, i usually add a raw egg or liquid and that slows her down because she likes to lap it up. but gulping ground never causes a prob that i can see. it's just that if she eats slower, she doesn't seem to look for more like she does when she inhales it Wink

i was a bit nervous about raw in the beginning, but once you start feeding, it just feels right,  in my experience. i also feed cooked meals on occasion like when i make stews etc. i would feel more nervous about opening a can or bag these days. it's all about using common sense when feeding raw and knowing your pets eating habits Smiley
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Laurie
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« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2008, 01:11:45 PM »

 Found a great rebuttal against the Second Chance Ranch's views on why animals should not be fed a raw diet.  http://rawfed.com/myths/rebuttal.html
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