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« on: June 05, 2009, 10:36:44 AM »

Help! Not just anybody . .  HELP!



Okay I think I want to boil some chicken for Sash.  I'll slice some chicken breast up into small pieces.  I intend to dice these pieces up when done.

How many minutes should I boil?

What should I be looking for in chicken? (We have a Whole Foods)

I want to start simple.



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« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2009, 10:51:42 AM »

LOL, Steve.  Sure can't resist the Beatles.

This is Kaffe/Cato Meowmie's basic recipe for a cooked meal for felines.

http://itchmoforums.com/making-your-own-pet-food-and-home-remedies/cats-what-homeprepared-meal-did-meowmie-fix-for-you-this-week-t1922.0.html;msg37381#msg37381

Here is a fast and simple recipe for those who want to try something uncomplicated to test kitty with in the beginning or during the transition from commercial to home-prepared (raw or cooked).

Quick Poultry Feast

1 lb   Raw or cooked chicken or turkey thigh flesh only with the skin
             (ground or chunked)

1/2 tsp   Powdered or finely ground eggshell (or 850mg calcium supplement) NOT optional

1 Jar (71g)     Baby Food Stage 1 or 2 Vegetables WITHOUT onion (carrots, peas or
                   butternut squash)

Mix all ingredients in a bowl.  Divide into meal portions, using freezer bags or ziplock bags or jars.  Freeze what will not be eaten immediately. 

As simple as it is, the ingredients in this recipe actually provides a carnivore all the key nutrients it needs.  The poultry thighs provide the complete amino acids spectrum, including taurine as well as vitmains including A, D and K and many of the B's.  The poultry skin provides the essential fatty acids.  The egg shells provide the calcium and trace minerals.  Theoretically, you can do without the vegetable baby food - but in my experience, it adds palatability to the food as well as providing needed fiber, starch and phytonutrients.



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« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2009, 10:56:35 AM »

Hi Steve,

I wouldn't cook the chicken until it's dried out because it becomes quite mealy and I know my cats don't like that texture. I would broil it in tinfoil rather than boiling it -- better flavor -- and save any of the juices to add to your chunks if you're not going to puree it with veggies, etc.

It should not take more than 20 minutes for a small thigh at 350F (toaster oven is great for this). You should be able to shred it with two forks once its done.

Good luck!
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« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2009, 11:06:29 AM »

Good idea for help. How about doggie recipes too for those of us who are owned by one?
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« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2009, 11:13:52 AM »

What should I be looking for in chicken? (We have a Whole Foods)


Organic or "natural" chicken if you can find it.  Personally, I don't have access to organic, so I use Nature's Promise chicken or FreeBird chicken.

...and be patient.  Hopefully he'll gobble up chicken, but Sash may not take to real food right away.  14 out of my 16 cats will eat this recipe or just plain bits of cooked chicken or turkey or cooked Creekstone ground beef.  My 2 exceptions were born to a feral momma cat and raised by humans since 3 days of age. 
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« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2009, 11:58:50 AM »

Okay I'll try that and see if the Royal Highness approves.

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« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2009, 09:46:49 PM »

Steve- They usually prefer dark meat. If I boil breasts  or thighs I leave them whole,if very large I cut them in 1/2 & just boil til the outside is whiteish & barely cooked. Then remove from hot burner & let sit in the cooking water[just enough to cover the meat] for about 20 mins. Refridgerate the broth & skim the fat so you can use it in the food or to cook any grains or veg you might add.I only add a tiny bit of those for the cats & slightly more [but nowhere near amounts called for in most recipes] for the dogs.
JJ--if you are doing mostly grain free,you can use cat recipes for dogs. Just don't use dog recipes for cats.
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« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2009, 06:04:32 PM »

I roast the cats' chickens in a covered pan with about an inch & half of water in the bottom so it steams and gets out some of the fat.  I use whole chickens or mix thigh/leg with other cuts. 

Thighs are extremely fatty, with legs almost as much.  Might be better to boil those without the skin to get out as much fat as possible.  When I use just those meats, it leaves a thick layer of white fat on the inside of the containers I store their mixed food in. 

That much fat doesn't seem natural since rodents & songbirds are probably more on the lean side in nature.  Maybe the fat would be in a better form for them if you barely cook it like lesliek suggests.
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« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2009, 07:20:30 PM »

Thx lesliek. Yes when home cooking doing grain free. Now have more recipes thanks to your tip for my honey Foxy Lady.
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