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« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2008, 03:25:53 PM »

Well Just Me and others, hoping the January thaw will cut down on the amount of oil used this month, and we keep the house at  62 all the time, have for over   38 years.

Oh, well, I will continue to add cooked meat and veggies to kibble, for as long as possible
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« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2008, 05:53:36 PM »

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Breakdown research is great.  But, do any of you pay about close to $500.00 to fill up on heating oil??

No, but I pay $800/month some winters for gas heating and part of the house is on electric heating.  But, that's not really the issue.  If it would be easier to wait until summer to try home feeding, then maybe that's a good idea.

As far as equipment goes, you don't need as much as Kaffe has on her wonderful list to start with.  You can make some good meals with a knife, a cutting board (or some surface that you can cut on), a mixing bowl (which could be a serving bowl, or soup bowl, or any other type), a teaspoon (the ones normally used to stir coffee or tea are pretty close to a measuring teaspoon).  You probably have all of those things in your home already.  If not, you can probably find them in a second hand store or borrow them from friends or family.  If you keep borrowing the items, they may even get the idea to gift them to you.

An example of a low equipment, low cost food for cats:
1 lb. chopped chicken
2. 5 oz (1/2 can) of sardines in tomato sauce
1 tsp. (1200 mg) of calcium carbonate
4 cat multivitamins

Chop chicken and mix with other ingredients.  Serve raw. Makes 4 servings for an average cat.  If your cat needs more fiber, you can add two heaping teaspoons of canned pumpkin or non-onion baby food veggies.  If your cat isn't used to this diet, I wouldn't waste the whole meal on him/her.  Just try giving a teaspoon along with regular food until they get the idea that this is food. 

The meat and vegetables you're giving to your dog sound like a great start already.  If you've also got a pot, you can boil eggs and/or a starch like rice or potato and add a calcium supplement.  Crushed eggshells are great if you're using eggs.  A grinding mill is nice, but large dogs are capable of eating eggs (shell and all) whole and putting the shells in a bag and using any heavy dull item to pound them a little gets them small enough for many small dogs.  My puppies were able to fully digest eggshells prepared this way when they were 3 months old and  less than 15 lbs.

Home feeding doesn't have to be an all or nothing proposition either.  You can mix home prepared food with commercial food as I saw you were in another thread, just replace the canned portion of the diet with home prepared food, or even use home prepared only once in awhile when money isn't as tight or foods go on sale or during the summer when the heating bill isn't such a big factor. It's great when pets get 100% home cooked food, but there's no reason to believe that 50%, or 30% or 10% less BHT, BHA, exothyquin, sodium phenobarbital, melamine, acetaminophen, and whatever else wouldn't do a pet some good, not to mention more and better quality protein, vitamins, and other nutrients. 

There's no reason for anyone to feel guilty about not being able to afford the best possible food every meal for their pets.  That's not why I started the thread.  There are alot of knowledgeable people on here in a variety of living and financial circumstances.  If you keep asking about ways to overcome the obstacles your facing, someone may just chime in with a method that suits your situation. So, don't give up.  We're rooting for you and trying to help.

Sharky: Wow! Fifty dollars a month on supplements?  What are you feeding your pets?


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« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2008, 06:12:38 PM »

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Breakdown research is great.  But, do any of you pay about close to $500.00 to fill up on heating oil??



As far as equipment goes, you don't need as much as Kaffe has on her wonderful list to start with.  You can make some good meals with a knife, a cutting board (or some surface that you can cut on), a mixing bowl (which could be a serving bowl, or soup bowl, or any other type), a teaspoon (the ones normally used to stir coffee or tea are pretty close to a measuring teaspoon).  You probably have all of those things in your home already...
 

...There's no reason for anyone to feel guilty about not being able to afford the best possible food every meal for your pets.  That's not why I started the thread.  There are alot of knowledgeable people on here in a variety of living and financial circumstances.  If you keep asking about ways to overcome the obstacles your facing, someone may just chime in with a method that suits your situation. So, don't give up.  We're rooting for you and trying to help.




ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!!!  When I started, that's all I had - a chopping board, a kitchen knife and a blender!  It was only when I decided to grind bones I decided to get an electric grinder... then one thing led to another... hee hee hee..

But I absolutely agree with Eartha: one does not need a lot of fancy equipment to start home preping for the pets.

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« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2008, 06:38:53 PM »

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Sharky: Wow! Fifty dollars a month on supplements?  What are you feeding your pets?




Well lets say the dog has pre cushings( this right after 4 plus yr fight with Crf in a old cat she made it to almost 19 ) .... I use standard process and human supplements ,...lots of oriental medicine here ... her liver supplement is 20 a month alone .. add b vitamins , quercitin, jt support( not so much now she is doing well) , slippery elm , pectin, greens ( the kind humans use) ...

her diet is wellness core ( about 14 kibbles a day as a "treat" ), Natural choice the carrot and apple ones but most 90% is hamburger super diet lean and rice ... so far most symptoms are improving only thorn the IBS that was controled is not any more
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« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2008, 07:27:11 PM »

sharky, i've found that 20-50 a month for supplements comes out a heck of a lot cheaper than other options  Wink and i end up taking some (the reg stuff) myself! lol!~ i did oriental for my cats in their last year or 2 and i really think their better days were much better and we had a lot less relapses.

hopefully you'll get the IBS sorted. have you tried a different protein? does any of the food/treats have sweet potato in it? my dog had issues with that, which i hadn't heard of before. ya never know what's gonna get them going!
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« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2008, 08:06:20 PM »

yeah.. actually attempting to move her to white chicken lol been working on it for a month... her vet is shocked she ever has normal stools cause of the liver issue ..... HUMM she gets yams a few times a week ... i learned with this one about the allergy to a cooked meat but raw is fine and vice versa  Huh Roll Eyes

totally  Wink to the supplements... hopefully getting some herbs that are mixed already to replace a few items...
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« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2008, 08:43:48 PM »

"i learned with this one about the allergy to a cooked meat but raw is fine and vice versa"

yup! have heard that from a few folks that have that problem! couple people on the Dal raw list can feed raw poultry but not cooked. i wouldn't mind the cooked allergy, but it would really suck to have to cook all my pets' food because they couldn't eat it raw!~ lol!  Cheesy
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« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2008, 04:36:59 PM »

"i learned with this one about the allergy to a cooked meat but raw is fine and vice versa"

yup! have heard that from a few folks that have that problem! couple people on the Dal raw list can feed raw poultry but not cooked. i wouldn't mind the cooked allergy, but it would really suck to have to cook all my pets' food because they couldn't eat it raw!~ lol!  Cheesy

at one pt my two raw eaters had me running circles... one was allergic to raw rabbit but not cooked and the other was allergic to raw chicken but not cooked
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« Reply #23 on: January 23, 2008, 05:57:22 PM »

I found another meat market today selling pet food. It's Bringhurst Meats in Berlin ,NJ. They are cutting up all their meat trim & bagging it in 8 lb bags.It's .55 cents a lb for under 50 lbs & .50 for 50 lbs & up. They do it on Saturdays & you can buy it fresh then or frozen all week. I'm going down on Saturday to get some & find out details of what is in it,& whether its cut or ground.Will post if it looks good. Anyone not to far away,who has a freezer might want to make a trip there.
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« Reply #24 on: January 24, 2008, 09:13:00 AM »

WOW .. that is a deal ... what did you find Huh
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« Reply #25 on: January 24, 2008, 02:57:13 PM »

Yes, if those trimmings are meaty, you may have found a great deal.
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« Reply #26 on: January 24, 2008, 04:44:11 PM »

I'll let you all know after Saturday. I'd like to see it before its frozen to judge fat content. Also I like to bag my meat in smaller packages than that.If I try it, I will add a small amount at first to be safe.
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« Reply #27 on: February 02, 2008, 06:00:37 PM »

Well I finally got a chance to check out the meat market. The meat is 70%/30% meat & fat. It's beef,lamb,chicken,turkey,pork,venison & rabbit. Organs included, but no bones or skin. It's a very rough grind so I reground it myself. They may do it for a fee,I didn't think to ask. It looks pretty good.They also have smoked pork skin for treats[my 3 dogs got 1 to share & loved it !]. You can also get human grade rough ground beef in tubes of 10 lbs for $1.49 a lb or chicken backs for $.49 a lb.The have rabbit cuts with bone for $2.49 a lb. The dogs ate a little of it raw, the cats licked my fingers but wouldn't eat the chunks raw. I browned it & they all ate it cooked.I'm going to call on Monday & see if I can get the ch backs ground,that way I could skip eggshells in the food.I'm going to add a few lbs to their regular meats to see how they do.
 Has anyone tried to grind chopped up bones in a kitchen aid meat grinder ? I don't want to burn it out, but the food processor can't really do it.
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« Reply #28 on: February 03, 2008, 01:50:02 AM »

Wow, Lesleik!  I wish there was a store like that here where I live.  If there was, I wouldn't have to buy any commercial food for variety!
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« Reply #29 on: February 03, 2008, 07:20:47 AM »

The only problem I see with the mix is it changes depending on what meats they have butchered each week. So it makes it hard to be accurate on nutrients. But I think if I go with part that, & part 1 protein source, I can be close enough that it won't matter. It' certainly going to save money & I feel safer with a small local butcher than a big grocery for meats.They know where the animal came from & do it all themselves. It will be nice not to have to butcher or grind it all myself.There were a lot of local farmers in there buying.That gives me confidence in them too.Definitely worth the drive for me[40 mins each way].I will look up their # & address & post it with their hours in case anyone wants to call in an order for pickup.If you want the pet ground mix or burger tubes,they grind them Sat am.The rest of the week its frozen.The bags average 8-12 lbs. The ones I got were 12.3,13,4 & 8.2 lbs. It's not far from Rte 73,which is a main highway.To give you an idea of distance,its probably about an hour from Philadelphia.
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