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mels
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« on: January 08, 2012, 07:15:10 PM »

I cooked a chicken twice for my guys and only 1 out of 5 will touch it.

First time I put it in my little Nesco roaster and slow cooked it and put it though my food processor and left it in little bits .
Next time I cooked it in the oven and put it through my food processor and pretty much pate'd it .

Neither one went over well.

I have one cat that ate both times but that really isn't saying much cause I really think this cat would eat one of my other cats if they sat still long enough!! LOL

I got 2 recipes that Marta sent me.

One was chicken and the other beef.
I haven't really fed my guys beef before but I might give it a try just to see IF maybe that might go over better.

If any of you have any recipes using Alnutrin with eggshell calcium that you could share I'd really appreciate it.

I know theres one on here that has chicken hearts and beef livers but I can't get chicken hearts. Well I can but its like 40lbs or something ridiculous .

Anyone know of some picky kitties recipes???

If I don't find something that they will eat that I can make them I guess they are going to be eating dry with some raw meals rotated in and I may have to start getting some Wellness canned again.
I have been resisting it but I may not have a choice soon.

As it is getting to be way to much to grind, pkg and then mix up raw food meals for 5 kitties and 1 small dog.

The dog is getting kibble with either canned or cooked meats mixed in to bring up his protein levels and some NV raw. But he is all of 4lb and only eats 1 to 2 oz  - 2x a day so not hard to do.

Cats are another story all together. Just way to time consuming anymore not to mention prices keep going up.
We had been grinding chicken thighs and when we started buying 40lbs it was $20 bucks or so the last time I bought them they were $57 plus change!!!!
And my guys don't seem to like them as much this time for some reason.

I'd still love to cook for my guys but I have to know that its balanced to do it.

Anyway any ideas would be very helpful and Very Appreciated.
Thanks
mels
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« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2012, 11:43:11 PM »

Have you thought of feeding a frankenprey diet? I have six cats, this is how I feed mine (grinding is soooo much work!!), and my cat food bill was cut in half when I switched from canned to frankenprey.

Here's my weekly menu.

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« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2012, 04:03:17 AM »

Mels,

The cooked chicken is very different for them - looks different, smells different.    

Just some suggestions that worked for my gang.

1.  Take advantage of their prey drive.  Cut the cooked chicken into small pieces, and toss them like a toy.  Hopefully, they'll chaise after the chicken and give it a sniff.  Maybe they won't eat the first few times, but sniffing the new food is a good first step.  Try dark meat and white meat.  Mine prefer white meat.

2.  Mix a few pinches of chopped up chicken in with their commercial food.

3.  Grind, or smash the kibble to powder and mix in with the cooked chicken.

4.  Gently touch their mouth, just under the nose, with a piece of the cooked chicken.  

5.  A bit more extreme - liquify the cooked chicken in a food processor, put it in a syringe and give 'em a small squirt.

6.  It helps to offer a new food when they're a bit hungry, like first thing in the morning.

7.  Try flavor enhancers.  A pinch of Forti Flora, chopped clams, Beechnut chicken baby food.  This is temporary until they get used to the new food.


Mels, in your cooked chicken recipe, what ingredients are you using?          
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« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2012, 09:09:22 AM »

Hi Mel,

You do need the liver in the recipe in case you're not using that in your Alnutrin recipe. Alnutrin doesn't have Vit A included. I have found that my cats will not eat just chicken because it is a grainy texture once it's processed. This is why I do a cooked,  half ground chicken, half ground beef recipe. The beef adds fat that makes it more palatable and cuts down on the graininess of it. You could also use ground pork rather than beef. If you've made a recipe using just chicken, make another using just beef and mix them together. As for the heart, you could also use beef or pork heart if that's available.
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« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2012, 10:28:32 AM »

Okay Thanks guys

My guys were actually very hungery when I tried to feed them as I had skipped their morning meal to try to make sure they were hungry and fed them earlier the normal so it wasn't to long without food.

Anyway they didn't seem to like what I made but they will eat chicken bits we feed them so I got to thinking and I took the extra pound of cooked chicken I had left and chopped it up and gave everyone 2 oz plus a little pumkin to mix calcium supplement in to make sure it stuck and got ate and they ate it much better. I did this yesterday morning for breakfast. Still had two that were picky but when I added a vitamin into theirs that they really like they ate it better.

I think I might start trying to just feed them with a calcium supplement, I have eggshell and Animal essentials calcium supplements and I know this is the most important of the supplements when feeding meat.

Anyway I was hoping to find out if anyone knows the % of meat, organ meat, veggie etc that go into home made diets for cats.
I have found lots of sites for my dog but not so much for cats .

I think I will try to give them cooked meals with a calcium supplement and a multi vitamin mixed in and I really think they will eat it this way.

Would there be anything wrong with this?

Anyone know any really good recipes that are made like this?

I don't know if its the raw egg in the recipe I had or if its the amount of water or IF its just the supplement itself they don't like.

Although they have eaten the Alnutrin Supplements with raw before. I don't think they were over the moon for it but they ate it just fine.

Anyway I would really Appreciate it if anyone can help me out with this so I can give it a try and see if I can make this fly with them and maybe in time I can even get them eating the Alnutrin recipes too.

Any good  sites, books , articles, recipes etc, just anything that might help me getting started on this and know that I have everything balanced out for them would be Greatly Appreciated.

Thanks everyone for the help
mels and my furries
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« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2012, 01:00:17 PM »

If you want to go that road, Kaffe's/Cato's recipes are very complete:

http://itchmoforums.com/making-your-own-pet-food-and-home-remedies/cats-what-homeprepared-meal-did-meowmie-fix-for-you-this-week-t1922.0.html

There are a lot of different recipes and it's good, educational reading to boot.
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« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2012, 05:34:05 PM »

Maybe they want their food chunky not pureed ? You can just cut the meat up small & add some chopped hearts & liver or clams & liver. If you can add some cheese to it, you can skip the calcium. I usually do 2 lbs organs to about 15 lbs of meat or fish. Cats can't metabolize Vit A from veggies, so you don't need to worry if adding sweet potatoes or squash or carrots. Dogs can ,so don't use more than 1 orange or yellow veggie with liver for them. I only add a tiny bit of veggies occasionally & a very small amount of grain for the cats. Sometimes I add some crushed cranberries, blueberries or apples or pears for taste & ph. Have you tried offering small bits of raw meat ? They might surprise you & scarf it down.
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« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2012, 06:54:09 PM »

Mine don't fancy my cooking, but they love it when I make meatballs for them, its basically minced meat and cooked risotto rice, rolled into freeze-dried powder or tuna flakes and baked. I guess freeze-dried stuff is sufficient flavor enhancer for them. Since I feed other foods in addition to home-cooked I don;t bother with balancing it, but I think it should be no problem to add supplements to meatballs.
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« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2012, 10:47:29 PM »

Mels,
Raw egg whites should not be fed to cats since it binds biotin. If you want to use the whole egg in cat recipes, you have to boil them. 
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« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2012, 06:13:33 AM »

Good catch Mandycat ! I didn't even notice that.
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« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2012, 10:13:52 AM »

Yes Thank you Mandycat.
I didn't catch that either.
I knew that but for some reason it slipped my mind.

And I went back and looked at the recipe and it does state egg yolk! DUH!!!

Well lesson learned read recipes BETTER before starting!!!

Thanks again I really appreciate you pointing that out.

And thanks to everyone else that has given me so many GOOD suggestions to try.
And a few more recipes too.

I really appreciate it.
And so will my guys!
mel
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