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« Reply #165 on: July 01, 2009, 10:56:59 PM » |
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Cato
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« Reply #166 on: July 08, 2009, 02:16:09 PM » |
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The inspiration fo this recipe is Cameo, Catbird's Hurricane Katrina Rescue. As a Manx, she tends to put on weight. She loves the occasional home-made fish dish and this recipe was developed with sweet Cameo in mind. It is a high protein, low carb, low calorie meal.
Cameo’s Cod with Quinoa
Food Ingredients:
1 lb Cod fillet, fresh
½ cup Quinoa, organic, boiled
½ tsp Parsley, fresh, finely chopped
2 oz Beechnut Carrots and Peas, baby food, stage 2
¼ tsp Iodized salt
½ cup Spring water (or enough for processing)
Supplements:
½ tsp Eggshell powder
1 caplet B50 (Vitamin B Complex), crushed
1000mg Taurine
200IU Vit E
2 gelcaps Norwegian Cod Liver Oil, Nature’s Bounty
(@ capsule has Vit A 1250 IU, Vit D 135 IU)
Preparation:
1. Smear the salt on the surface of the cod fillets before wrapping them in aluminum foil Transfer to a baking pan. Bake in 350 deg oven for 20-25 mins.
2. Meanwhile, in a small bowl, combine water and babyfood. Add the supplements into mixture making sure all is evenly distributed: crushed B50, eggshell powder, taurine, Cod liver oil, and Vit E.
3. Transfer baked cod with the juices into a mixing bowl. Using a fork, flake or shred the flesh. Add the cooked quinoa and parsley.
4. Combine the supplement mixture with the cod and quinoa. Stir vigorously to ensure all ingredients and supplements are distributed evenly.
5. Portion into individual servings. Freeze what will not be immediately consumed.
Recipe makes around 3 cups or 8.5 portions of 3oz each:
Each 3 oz (85g) portion contains:
Calories: 60 kcal
- from Protein 72%
- from Fats 9%
- from Carb 19%
Protein: 9.9 g
Fat: 0.6 g
Carb: 2.4 g
Fiber: 0.3 g
Ash: 0.9 g
Total: 14.1g
Protein Load: 9.9g / 14.1 g x 100% = 70.21%
Phosphorus Load: 123.3mg / 14100mg x 100% = 0.87%
Nutrition Assessment of this recipe from Nutrition Data:
The good: This food is very low in Saturated Fat. It is also a good source of Vitamin A, Calcium and Potassium, and a very good source of Protein, Vitamin D, Vitamin E (Alpha Tocopherol), Thiamin, Riboflavin, Niacin, Vitamin B6, Vitamin B12, Pantothenic Acid, Phosphorus and Selenium.
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petslave
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« Reply #167 on: July 08, 2009, 02:29:17 PM » |
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OK, a few questions for our resident cat food recipe expert, or anyone else that has info on these:
1. Oatmeal for cats - I ran out of boiled potatoes the other day for the T&T recipe, and didn't have time to make rice. So I thought of oatmeal, which cooks a lot faster. I know they use it in a some dry cat foods, so would it be OK to substitute it as the carb in an occasional batch, or is there something bad for cats in it? (I haven't tried it yet)
2. Canned organic pumpkin, butternut squash, sweet potatoes - I use at least 2 of these in each food production run. Are any of the 3 better or worse for cats? I want to order one or two cases next time it's on sale and need to know which is best to get.
3. Cruciferous veggies for cats - are they really safe? Kale & broccoli seem popular in cat food recipes, but when reading up on hemolytic anemia in dogs, there were some thoughts that kale may one of the triggers. Not sure if it's the sulfur compounds like in garlic or what. I was looking for a pea substitute since it seems like my cats don't do that well with peas.
Cauliflower seems milder than the green crucifers, would it be a good one to use? Right now I'm only doing a few batches with peas, and the rest I leave the peas out and increase the amounts of potatoes & pumpkin equally to take their place.
The cats are up to about 80-90% home cooked here and seem to be doing really well on it! I'll probably keep a case of canned around for backup, but would like to feed almost all home-made if possible.
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« Reply #168 on: July 08, 2009, 02:31:09 PM » |
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Hey, Rudi Manxy could sure use a little weight reduction here - we'll have to try that one! Thanks!
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« Reply #169 on: July 08, 2009, 02:50:47 PM » |
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Thank you so much for the recipe, Cato! We will be making her a batch this weekend. I have abundant parsley from my CSA share, so this will put a bit more of it to good use. (Always looking for more ways to use it.)
LOL petslave maybe the subtitle for the recipe should be Manx Meals.
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« Reply #170 on: July 08, 2009, 06:05:14 PM » |
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petslave- No scientific backup,just experience with feeding. Mine do fine with oatmeal,but I always mix it with sweet p[otatos or bron=wn rice [both organic]. Kale & broccoli & squash have been ok here,have never tried cauliflower except mixed with broccoli. Slight gassiness with the broc & CAULIFLOWER.[sorry still not used to the laptop keyboard]. Kale has been fine with all of mine,peas only with 3 out of 5.My basic recipes are brown rice & sweet potatos or oatmeal to switch with 1 of them. Carrots & green beans,switched with broc,caul.,squash or kale,always a little cranberry or blueberry & the proteins.I do occasionally make them a chicken or turkey soup with some celery.Peppers have also caused gassiness.
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« Reply #171 on: July 08, 2009, 06:13:21 PM » |
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Petslave: That's a lot of questions! Lets see now:
1. Oatmeal vs mashed potatoes:
100 grams of mashed potatoes from dehydrated flakes has:
97 kcal
1.8g protein
0.8g fiber
10.1 carb
5.1 g fat
1 g ash
100 grams oatmeal (plain, unfortified)
71 kcal
2.5g protein
1.7g fiber
11.9g carb
1.5g fat
0.3 g ash
You can use oatmeal in cat food of course, but I prefer potato. Oatmeal has higher fiber content which can interfere with taurine absorbtion in the gut. If this is fed only once in a while, there should be no problem with that. Oatmeal is also higher in Omega 6, which means it is slightly more inflammatory than potato. Also, some cats may not like oatmeal. But if yur kitties accept it, then why not?
2. For the sheer convenience of it, I prefer canned organic pumpkin. But butternut squash is also good, although I've never used a canned version of that, just the fresh ones. Canned sweet potato has more calories and more sugar(101kcal; 5.5g/100g) than canned pumpkin (34kcal; 3g/100g).
3. Cruciferous veggies (broccoli, brussel sprouts, cauliflower, turnips, cabbage) are known goitrogens and should never be fed raw (unless you want to put down a sudden T4 spike). Cooking not only nuetralizes the goitogenic substance in them, it also makes these vegetables easier to digest. Brocolli is a good source of Dietary Fiber, many of the B vitamins (Riboflavin, Vitamin B6, Folate, Niacin, Pantothenic acid), as well as being a rich source of Vitamin C, Vitamin E (alpha tocopherol) and Vitamin K. It also provides Calcium, Iron, Magnesium and Phosphorus. Cooked, it is a good vegetable to feed a cat ocassionally.
I've not heard of kale causing hemolytic anemia...
Altough one can use cooked cauliflower in cat food recipes, I've not tried it...
Other "greens" you can use are green beans, swiss chard, collard...
I'm so thrilled with your success in transitioning your kitties t home-made food!
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« Reply #172 on: July 08, 2009, 07:52:42 PM » |
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Fantastic info, thank you thank you thank you! Good to know about cooking the greens to help reduce the problem chemicals. I think I'll leave out the oatmeal and reduce sweet potato use.
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« Reply #173 on: July 08, 2009, 09:03:32 PM » |
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I'll post a compilation of kitty-freindly veggies tomorrow. It won't be complete becuase I am still reading up on a few... but maybe it will help those of us looking for "new" veggies to add... Have you ever tried mushroom? Shiitake and maitake are especially good, you know. "Grasses" are also great (barley, wheat, oat grass and catnip!) Go easy alwasy on parsely becuase that 's a diuretic. Celery stimulates kitty appetites, but is also a mild diuretic. Dandelion leaves is kidney-protective... anyway, I'll organize my list.
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petslave
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« Reply #174 on: July 08, 2009, 09:11:51 PM » |
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That would be a great list to have. I know in feeding the dogs home-made food, there is conflicting info about different veggies all over the internet and in books. Lots of info being passed around and who knows what's right. I've read "no green beans at all", and "green beans are fine as long as they are cooked, but not raw". It can get confusing!
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« Reply #175 on: July 09, 2009, 08:24:07 AM » |
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I haven't had any trouble with the green beans [other than Remy who gets no veggies],but I always puree all fruits & veggies & simmer them in the meat broth. Or steam them first with meat & puree afterwards. So many sites say dogs & cats can't digest them cut that I figure better safe than sorry.
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« Reply #176 on: August 11, 2009, 01:00:48 PM » |
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We're making Kaffee/Cato's Quick Poultry Feast tonight. Which veggie babyfood flavor (no onions allowed!) is your kitties' favorite? carrots? peas? sweet potato  |
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« Reply #177 on: August 11, 2009, 02:36:12 PM » |
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Kitties here like peas and I also use carrots. I usually use pumpkin, so haven't used sweet potato. Here, especially for Cato, is the kitchen cleanup crew last night.   |
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« Reply #178 on: August 11, 2009, 06:13:11 PM » |
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So the boys have chores now ? So far only peas aren't tolerated well by 2,the other 3 like them. Every veggie we've tried has been eaten,pureed fresh or baby food.
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« Reply #179 on: August 11, 2009, 10:33:36 PM » |
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Aha! Cato can do his own clean-up from now on too!  Thanks for the pictures, Spartycats! I just did a batch yesterday... why, oh why, do drumsticks happen to be Cato's favorite? They are so tedous to debone! |
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