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« Reply #150 on: June 29, 2009, 01:40:01 PM » |
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This recipe was inspired by JustMe's need for an "all-rounder" or general recipe she can feed all her kitties, from the youngest to the oldest. Beleive or not, I tried real ard to make it as simple as possible and yet provide all the nutrients cats need. It is meant to be cooked using a slow-cooker or crockpot.
Chicken for All Seasons (Slow-cooked Chicken and Veggies)
Food Ingredients:
1 pc Whole chicken breast, skinless 2 pcs Chicken thighs, skinless 8 pcs Chicken drumsticks, skinless 1 cup Chicken hearts, diced ½ cup Chicken liver 4 Whole boiled eggs, large 1 Cup Diced potato ½ cup Celery, finely chopped ½ cup Carrots, finely chopped ½ cup Pumpkin, canned (pure pumpkin only) ¼ tsp Iodized salt 2-3 Cups or Enough water to cover contents of pot
Supplements: 1 ½ tsp Eggshell powder 2 tabs B-50 (Vitamin B Complex 50mg), crushed 4000 mg Taurine
Preparation:
1. Place chicken drumsticks, thighs and breast pieces in slow cooker. Pour in enough water to cover all the chicken. Cook for 4 hours.
2. Skim the muck and fat from off the surface of the liquid in the pot. Then add chopped celery, chopped carrot, diced potato, chopped chicken hearts, liver and salt. Cook all for another two - three hours. 3. When done, remove the breasts, drumsticks and thighs; let cool.
4. Meanwhile, in a small bowl, mix the pumpkin, eggshell, taurine and Vit B together so that supplements are evenly distributed through the pumpkin.
5. Debone the cooled down chicken parts and shred the flesh with your fingers. Combine the shredded chicken with the diced boiled eggs and the rest of the contents of the pot (chicken liver, hearts, celery, carrots, potato and broth). Stir in the pumpkin with the supplements. Mix well.
6. Blend all in a food processor or blender, a batch at a time. Mix thoroughly so that ingredients are evenly distributed through the final product.
7. Measure out into portions and refrigerate or freeze what will not be used immediately.
Recipe yields 2.1kg and makes around 24.5 x 3oz portions
As fed: Water 78.61% Protein 13.52% Fat 3.7% Carb 2.4% Fiber 0.68% Ash 0.76%
Each 3 oz (84g) portion contains: Calories: 87 kcal - from Protein 55% - from Fats 33% - from Carb 12%
Dry Matter: Protein: 11.4 g Fat: 3.0 g Carb: 2.1 g Fiber: 0.6 g Ash: 0.6 g Total: 17.7 g
Protein Load DM: 64.4 % Phosphorus Load DM: 0.53% Ash DM: 0.004%
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« Reply #151 on: June 29, 2009, 01:53:04 PM » |
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"One cat just leads to another." ~ Ernest Hemingway
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« Reply #152 on: June 29, 2009, 03:27:02 PM » |
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Hmmm. Maybe it's time to buy a mini crockpot. Have been avoiding it because they're all MIC.
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Red and Bones, my baby boys, you'll always be in my heart. Mom will see you later. Look after each other, ok?
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« Reply #153 on: June 29, 2009, 06:00:52 PM » |
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A variation that I've used is in STEP 3, you strain the broth of all solids, setting them aside and retunr the liquid back into the pot. The chicken is then deboned, setting aside the flesh for shredding and the cooked bones placed on a board and whacked with a eat cleaver a few times to create fractures or breaks in the bones. These (the bones) are then returned to the pot which is allowed to simmer for at least na hour (I usuallys do 2 hrs, adding more water as needed). Then the bones are strained out of the liquid. The resulting broth is now mineral-enriched - minerals you would otherwise miss had you not done this extra step.
I then proceed to the next steps.
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« Reply #154 on: July 01, 2009, 05:19:24 PM » |
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Cato, do you ever add vinegar to your stock while cooking a carcass? Mom uses it to leach out the calcium into the broth.
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Red and Bones, my baby boys, you'll always be in my heart. Mom will see you later. Look after each other, ok?
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« Reply #155 on: July 01, 2009, 05:32:44 PM » |
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Really? Thank You for the tip, Bug! Like, how much vinegar? BTW: I haven't forgotten our marshmallow pill pocket - just been a bit overtaken with work lately 
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« Reply #156 on: July 01, 2009, 05:47:52 PM » |
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Just called mom. She says about a teaspoon for six litres. You'll notice that if you have a whole chicken carcass, the broth will become cloudy. She said that you can also accomplish the same thing by adding a tomato to the broth, but it does alter the flavor somewhat. Once the broth is cooled, you'll notice that it will turn to jelly in the fridge. I've tried it with white vinegar and you can't taste it at all.
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« Reply #157 on: July 01, 2009, 06:00:24 PM » |
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I'm making Cato's latest creation. Pirate Kitty (Blinkie) has staked out the crockpot again. It was all I could do to skin the drumsticks and thighs without Blinkie grabbing them.
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« Reply #158 on: July 01, 2009, 06:28:51 PM » |
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I can just see Blinkie staking out that crock pot as HERS! 
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Read "The Omnivore's Dilemma" and you'll know where we are going and why we are in this handbasket.
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« Reply #159 on: July 01, 2009, 06:45:34 PM » |
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JM: I hope you have a plan to forestall the mighty kitty-tantrum that is likely erupt when Blinkie realizes that the chicken won'tbe ready till tomorrow! C'mon - toss the lovely Pirate-girl a raw chicken wing! 
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« Reply #160 on: July 01, 2009, 06:50:11 PM » |
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Is it really that easy? I don't have any raw chicken left. With skin or without? I'm just going to leave the crock pot going overnight.  DH moved it to the downstairs kitchen. Don't get excited. Original owners had a mother-in-law apartment down there. So we kept the kitchen part intact. 
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« Reply #161 on: July 01, 2009, 07:03:03 PM » |
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That's what some raw-feeders have done - toss the kitty a wing or a neck (soft bones made up mostly of cartilage). I have better success using chicken hearts as the "big" piece for a cat to chew on... well, Cato anyway. Kaffe used to bite two, three times and swallow  First time he did that I had to watch him to see if he barfed it out again - but no, he kept the whole heart down. Bug: Thanks for calling your mum about the vinegar! I'm going to add that to my next broth. Yes - the broth turns into a lovely jelly-like consistency that some cats love - especially Cato! That's why I make broth at least once a month now.
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« Reply #162 on: July 01, 2009, 08:27:35 PM » |
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Not sure if anyone else can use this info but I'll post it just in case:
mg phosphorous in 1 lb., raw meats
ground pork 793.78 (cooked 1025.11) ground beef 639.56 (baked 734.82) ground lamb 712.14 (broiled 911.72) chicken thigh 762.03 (roasted 830.07) chicken breast 889.04 (roasted – 1034.19)
I'm trying to figure out a way to add some variety to the T&T recipe. I use chicken since I can get local free range for cheap. The other meats I would add - natural turkey, free-range grass fed beef, lamb, pork - are too pricey for me to use as the only meat source. So I thought I could substitute a pound of one of those for same amount of chicken in several batches whenever I make food (usually make 8 batches at a time).
I was worried about the phosphorous levels being too high with meat substitutions, so I did a comparison of them with chicken. The types of cooking differ, so I'm just looking at the raw food numbers. Interesting how cooking increases P, probably because the meat loses some of the liquid and concentrates some of the nutrients.
I'll add turkey later, forgot that one.
A few more numbers (no raw numbers on whitefish, or cooked numbers on salmon):
Turkey, young hen 875.43 (966.15 roasted) Farmed catfish 916.25 (1111.3 dry cooked) Whitefish (1569.42 dry cooked) Atlantic salmon 1056.86 Pacific salmon, coho 1188.41
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« Reply #163 on: July 01, 2009, 09:08:31 PM » |
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That's a good compilation, Petslave! I have one somewhere...  when I was obsessed with how much phosophorus was in some home-made I was doing for Kaffe  Yes - cooking affects the nutrient numbers and yes, you are correct in assuming that fluids are lost in th cooking process; hence, one kilo cooked chicken leg is more than one kilo raw hicken leg. Picture it as an in-between wet weight vs dry weight. Looks like time for another T & T recipe...
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« Reply #164 on: July 01, 2009, 09:55:27 PM » |
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But then I'll have to get used to a new recipe! I actually know this one by heart and barely even look at the list of ingredients posted on the wall when I'm making it.
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