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« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2008, 10:18:54 AM »

Cato,

Would cooking boneless, skinless chicken thighs in a crockpot cause too much fat to remain for feeding cats, or can I use the crockpot cooked chicken and drippings for meowmie's recipes?
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« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2008, 01:02:03 PM »

I'll let Cato give the official version answer to your question JustMe, but I've found using lots of water and changing it out once near the end of cooking gets a lot of the excess fat out.  Taking the skin off before cooking helps too.  The thighs do seem to have more fat in them than the other parts.  (hey that statement works for both the chickens and me!)
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« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2008, 01:17:02 PM »

LOL, petslave

I'm cooking them without any water.  Just the chicken in the crockpot.  So I should add water? 

They are practically swimming in liquid.  I know a small amount of that must be the liquid from poultry processing.

OT, but one of my cats has staked out a spot a foot away from the crockpot, even though I barricaded it with coffee cans.  I don't know if she is waiting for the chicken or because it is cold out today.   Tongue
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« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2008, 01:29:12 PM »

I'm with petslave on this one.  I remove the skin, cook them in water & then I remove them & store them with fresh water in the fridge.  Water is really full of fat.  Sometimes I throw veggies into that same water & after they're cooked, I put those away with fresh water.  Then I toss all that fat.

Thighs really do have a lot of fat (looking at my own as I say that) which is why I always cook them with water & then store them in fresh water & not in all that fat.

But that's what I do.  Not that it's the right way...... Undecided
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« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2008, 01:31:36 PM »

aiiiyeee.  I messed up.  You cook them in water on the stove or in the crockpot?  Maybe I can rinse rinse them off after they are done cooking. 

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« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2008, 01:37:52 PM »

I guess there is limited space in a crock pot for extra water.  I cook large quantities in big covered roasters in the oven with lots of water, so that's a little different.  (I decided against a crock pot because my black manx would definitely find a way to sabotage it while cooking.  He pulls out the burners on the stovetop when meat is cooking in the oven.)

I've actually boiled the cooked chicken for a short while on the stove top when it came out too greasy, after removing bone & skin.  That's a lot of trouble though.  You could probably rinse them off when cooked, but skinless chicken breast would probably be easier for this recipe.  

Can't wait to hear the cat chef's input!  
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« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2008, 01:41:04 PM »

These are boneless and skinless thighs.  I didn't think there would be so much liquid/grease coming out of them.    Undecided
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« Reply #22 on: November 12, 2008, 01:51:28 PM »

I cooked only thighs for the first time in my last huge batch of cat food.  I couldn't believe how much grease was in them.  There was a thick coat of fat in the food processor, the containers I froze it in, the mixing bowl when adding supplements. 

I didn't boil the meat afterwards for that batch, but I will from now on.  It was gross and I don't know if that much fat is good for cats.  They seem OK with it though, and no one is gaining weight.
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« Reply #23 on: November 12, 2008, 03:45:13 PM »

Sorry to come so late --- my internet server went on the glitch or something this morning and I could not access the www... anyway...

Petslave and Jan are right about thighs being the fatest part of the chicken.  The fat becomes problematic when you cook but not when fed raw. I use mostly skinless chicken thighs and drumsticks for my raw mixes.  When you want to cook skinless chicken thighs for the kitties, it helps if you trim off the fatty parts that are found mostly at the sides of the thighs.  Even then, I find I have to skim the fat off the chicken thigh broth in order to use it.  The best way to do this is after boiling, remove  the chicken pieces, and refrigerate the remaining broth.  After several hours, you'll find a thick layer of fat on top of the liquid and this can easily be skimmed off and thrown away.  But only if you want to save the broth.  It will not be 100% free of fat, but hey --- its not lethal and actually provides the umami flavor that cats and dogs love. (I like the idea of using the fatty broth to cook veggies!  Might try that one!)

Since you're using a crackpot, JustMe, you can probably save the juices (I would), dilute them with some water, bring to a boil in a separate pot then cool and refrigerate.  You can then skim of the layer of fat that should form.  I imagine those juices will be very flavorful! 

What lucky kitties!
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« Reply #24 on: November 12, 2008, 03:52:11 PM »

Veggies come out yummy cooked in that water.......so I try to use it before I throw it away.

I would imagine the fat would rise to the top & could be skimmed off but I think the water is way too greasy........so I cook the thighs on the stovetop w/water & then rinse & store them with fresh water (so they won't dry out).

Hannah does love those chicken thighs.......humommie sometimes picks at them while preparing H's dinner.  Oink oink.   

I don't know about you but I cook maybe four thighs at a time......big honking thighs.  When they're all cooked, I have these four little things sitting in this big pot of water.  Once the fat is gone, they reduce by at least half. Shocked
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« Reply #25 on: November 12, 2008, 04:01:48 PM »

I always cook them with water too,if you refridergate the broth you can skim off the fat. I take the cooked thighs out & rinse & drain them them to remove most of the fat. I always cook any grains or veggies in the broth for added flavor. If I do them in a pot or crockpot & remove any skin 1st,if I bake them in water I leave it on so they don't dry out. If you want a stronger meaty broth use bone in,& remove the bones after cooking.you will lose about a 1/3 of the weight to fat,bones & skin though.
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« Reply #26 on: November 12, 2008, 05:21:03 PM »

Thank you for all the information everyone.  The chicken was delicious.  DH and I had some with BBQ sauce for supper.  The cats and kittens could not wait for me to make their food, so we gave them each tidbits of chicken as is.  Tomorrow I'll make up their food.  They had already eaten supper anyway.  They all went crazy trying to get chicken (except the 2 who don't know it is real food).

Here's Blinkie, aka Pirate Kitty, scrunched up next to the crock pot outside the coffee can barricade, still guarding it (leftover chicken still in there).  That's a 13-ounce can.  She weighs about 6 pounds.  Kittens are all bigger than her.  She is a tiny little girl.

Not a very good picture of Blinkie, but you get the idea.

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« Reply #27 on: November 12, 2008, 05:58:28 PM »

LOL Blinkie knows what's good and she wants it all for herself!
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« Reply #28 on: November 12, 2008, 06:02:30 PM »

Blinkie is one smart girl, that's for sure.  She knows exactly where the good stuff's at!
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« Reply #29 on: November 12, 2008, 09:00:52 PM »

 Grin  It looks to me like Blinkie was attempting to merge into the kitchen "artifacts" so that she can sneak a bit of chicken when you're not looking!  What do you mean its not a good pic?  I think it's a very good picture becuase it tells a STORY about Blinkie!  You must keep this shot in the album.
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