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Author Topic: Anyone heard of Alnutrin? Claims Japanese source of taurine  (Read 7238 times)
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« Reply #45 on: June 25, 2009, 11:30:33 AM »

Yes, petslave.

Sorry it took me so long to reply.

I do use the recipe on the site.
Very easy for me and cats were quite enthusiastic.

Small amounts of the cooked on top of canned are also okay, but never ever add the Alnutrin to canned food.

Please call these folks if you have any questions.  I got the Alnutrin info from 5CatMom and also spoke to Alnutrin.  Freezing does not have any destructive effect on the Alnutrin.

I encourage you to call with questions.  These folks are wonderful!!!
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« Reply #46 on: June 25, 2009, 11:36:22 PM »

Thanks, Peg!  I'm not sure I want to feed the cats broccoli as stated in that recipe, but I could probably just substitute green peas for it.

I guess if freezing destroyed taurine, the raw frozen diets wouldn't work.  Looks like they were having the same discussion here and it's still not clear whether it reduces taurine levels in the food:

http://www.dogster.com/forums/Raw_Food_Diet/thread/591880
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« Reply #47 on: September 09, 2009, 02:04:48 AM »

My 8 year old Cleo has been eating Alnutrin (plus a bit of commercial kibble) for over a year.

Just got her blood and urine test results, and she's "perfect" according to her new vet.

LOL, this is the second vet who seems surprised by normal test results.  I told him it was Mama's homemade food.

Cleo (left) with hair, and Tony (right) no hair, but with freckles.  They're littermates. 


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« Reply #48 on: September 09, 2009, 07:08:14 AM »

They are beautiful ! Its nice to hear more good results from real food.
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« Reply #49 on: September 09, 2009, 07:14:25 AM »

You couldn't get two cats that look more like twins than these two -- except for the fur (or lack thereof). They are gorgeous!
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« Reply #50 on: September 10, 2009, 07:07:42 AM »

Thanks, you guys.

I should have said they've been eating home made food for 2 1/2 years (since the recalls of 2007), and Alnutrin for just over a year.  Still using some commercial, but very little, these days.

With Cleo's normal lab results, that makes three kitties who've tested normal since we began using homemade food.   

LOL, I emailed Marta and told her the Itchmo gang was chatting about Alnutrin.  She plans to introduce a new formula that uses egg shells as a source of calcium.  It's due to be available soon.

We'll give the new egg shell formula a try, but we've had very good results with the original formula.

Do we have a thread for sharing Alnutrin recipes?  That might be fun.  Would be interested to know what others are using for ingredients/percentages.

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« Reply #51 on: September 10, 2009, 07:14:19 AM »

Oh they are so cute!  Is Tony eating Alnutrin recipes too?  They could be the poster kitties for the product.

I'd like to see some more cooked recipes using Alnutrin.  I keep wanting to buy it, but last time I checked the site, they only had one that used cooked meat. 

The phosphorous level needs to be low for my CRF kitty too, so I have to do some calcs before I can use a recipe to make sure that's in the right range.
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« Reply #52 on: September 10, 2009, 02:34:32 PM »

5CatMom, what beautiful cats those are!
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« Reply #53 on: September 10, 2009, 05:14:33 PM »

All six kitties (Cleo, Tony, Willie, Ben, Louie, Stubby) eat homemade using Alnutrin.

Here's Wildcat Willie helping with homemade food Grin.  This batch of food made 27 containers,
one pound each.  

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« Reply #54 on: September 10, 2009, 05:18:14 PM »

Petslave,

If you send Marta an email, I'm sure she can help you with other cooked recipes.

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« Reply #55 on: September 10, 2009, 05:53:38 PM »

All six kitties (Cleo, Tony, Willie, Ben, Louie, Stubby) eat homemade using Alnutrin.

Here's Wildcat Willie helping with homemade food Grin.  This batch of food made 27 containers,
one pound each. 


Now if that was my dogfood batch, you could just switch Wildcat Willie for my BF Tracy and it would look like MY kitchen! Grin Grin
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« Reply #56 on: September 10, 2009, 07:08:00 PM »

So what's your recipe 5Cat? I seriously haven't been able to get two of my girls to eat homemade -- raw or cooked. What's in the pot?
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« Reply #57 on: September 11, 2009, 06:42:59 AM »

Here's our Basic Raw Chicken Meat (meat only, no skin, no bone) recipe.  

http://www.knowwhatyoufeed.com/RecipeBasicnonmetric.htm

Step 1 "Create your recipe"

Water 14%
Raw Chicken Thighs, ground (skin and bone removed), 64%
Raw Chicken Liver* 4%
Raw Chicken Heart* 13%
Raw Egg Yolk 2%
Carrot, cooked very soft, 1%
Green peas, cooked very soft, 2%

Total 100%

* If organs not from local sources, I "flash boil" them.  Bring water to boil, add organs for approx. 30 to 60 seconds, remove.  Not trying to cook organs, but kill surface bacteria.

I also occasionally add:
1/4 cooked (very soft) brown rice per 2 kg meat (4.4 lbs)
2 500 mg Taurine caps per 2 kg meat
1 jar of Beechnut baby food, Chicken and gravy per 10 to 12 lbs of meat.  This seems to improve the smell and flavor.

Sometimes, I vary the %'s of last 3 ingredients.  For example, may use 1% raw egg yolks, 2% carrots, 2% peas.


Step 3 "Add the Supplement"

Enter "1.2"
This yields a Ca:P ratio of 1.23:1 (See box above where you entered "1.2")

Step 4 "Make your cat food"

For "Chicken thigh, raw", enter "20 lbs"

Grin

Not saying it's perfect, but it seems to work for us.  

The transition to homemade:  My adult kitties were kibble addicts.  Before they would accept homemade food, we offered small pieces of cooked chicken, scrambled egg, cheese - just to get them used to the idea and the smell of real food (smell is a big deal for kitties).  Then we placed the real food goodies on top of a small amount of homemade food.  That got 'em used to the smell of the homemade food.  After about a week, they ate homemade food without the goodies.

We don't feed "free choice", so the feeding schedule was important.  Homemade was offered for breakfast when the gang was hungry.  Lunch was combo of commercial wet and dry.  Dinner was homemade.  Snack before bedtime was kibble.  

OK, so what's everyone else doing?  

Hugs,

5CM

Louie after enjoying his homemade food

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« Reply #58 on: September 11, 2009, 07:25:00 AM »

Thanks 5Cat, I'll give it another shot and look into ordering Alnutrin online.
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« Reply #59 on: September 11, 2009, 08:27:54 AM »

Bug,

If your kitties have a favorite canned food, or kibble, you might try that as a mix in or topper.

The kibble can be ground up in a food processor, or motar and pestle, and used to enhance the homemade until your kitties get used to the new smell.

LOL, I didn't think mine would eat homemade, but they did.  Put it down in the morning.  If they won't eat it, pick it up and wait 30 minutes. Then, put it down again. After you repeat the process a few times, they'll catch on.  If they won't even sniff it, rub a bit on the side of the mouth.

The new fur kids won't touch canned food - They've been eating homemade since we got them.

For me, the bottom line was:  Can I change the pet food industry, or can I teach the kitties to eat homemade food?

The amount of time required to keep up with the tricks and games of PFC's was crazy.  Having to worry about every bag or can that I opened - who needs that?

Finally got tired of the battle and the stress.  And even though the transition to homemade takes a bit of effort - it's worth it.  Good health and perfect lab results truly are priceless.

Bug, good luck to you and your kitties.  Please let us know how it goes.

Hugs,

5CM

Ben, Louie, Willie

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