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« Reply #30 on: January 02, 2008, 05:41:17 PM »

Some people obviously didn't get the message.

What the pet food crisis has uncovered goes far deeper
that one greedy Chinese manufacturer.

The crisis uncovered huge flaws in the entire U.S.
pet food safety apparatus.


We found lack of inspections, grossly inadequate labeling
standards, pathetic customs inspection procedures,
and virtually complete lack of regulation as just a few
things that were part of the "Chain of Tears".

We got part of what we wanted with the new bill that
was passed in September and signed into law.

But guess what action the FDA and HHS have taken in
response to this new law?Huh

AAFCO has not even been contacted yet to develop
new labeling, production, and ingredient standards as
mandated by the new law.

There will also be a new bill coming out this spring which will
work on Certification of foreign inspection and production
standards BEFORE any food imports are allowed.

We've still got a long, long way to go.

Mike
DefendOurPets.org
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« Reply #31 on: January 02, 2008, 05:46:47 PM »

"AAFCO has not even been contacted  yet to develop
new labeling, production, and ingredient standards as
mandated by the new law."

shouldn't someone be getting on their ass about that?!   Angry
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BruinMike
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« Reply #32 on: January 02, 2008, 10:11:41 PM »

I've contacted Dr. Burkholder directly.

Also, I'll be at the AAFCO meeting at the end of the month.

Mike
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« Reply #33 on: January 02, 2008, 10:34:32 PM »

MarySmith,  its a little off topic but did you see what is right below Sharky's post?  An advertisement that says "Get the Stink Out"......seems rather fitting, dont ya think?   Wink

Mike,  so they let anyone into those AAFCO meetings?  Im surprised as they normally have the 'circle your wagons' mentality.  I will love to hear from you after your attendance at the meeting and I would love to be a fly on the wall there if you are given a chance to say anything.  Thank you Mike!
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« Reply #34 on: January 02, 2008, 10:44:49 PM »

Here's another post I made:

Salmonella Found - Hartz Mountain Vitamins Recalled
http://thecatsite.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2115775#post2115775
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« Reply #35 on: January 02, 2008, 10:59:30 PM »

Hi Sandi,

Defendourpets.org is a group we started back in April initially consisting
of about 300 pet parents that had lost a pet to the contamination.

Our group at defendourpets.org carefully read the proposed legislation
earlier this year. ALL of the bills seemed to agree on one thing, namely
that HHS and the FDA needed to come up with new standards of labeling,
production, and ingredients. Most of the proposed bills even stated that
"HHS and the FDA will consult with AAFCO and others for recommendations.

With this in mind, I noticed that the incoming President of AAFCO was
a fellow Texan. I contacted him and the outgoing President from Wisconsin
back in June. In our discussions, they disclosed that the primary advisory
members consisted of representatives of the PFI. They said that
they would really like to have a consumer representative.

As a result, DefendOurPets.org is now an advisory member on the
Pet Food Committee and 3 other committees of AAFCO. I will be
sitting-in directly on these meetings with an opportunity for input.
This is the first time in a long time that the pet food consumer has
had any voice at all.

The PFI and DefendOurPets.org are both simply advisory members.
We have no vote, neither do they.

We presented our first white paper on labeling suggestions at
their mid-summer meeting in Grand Rapids.

Since we knew that AAFCO would be tasked with coming up
with new recommendations to the FDA and HHS, we felt
it was imperative for the consumer to have a voice in these
deliberations.


To our surprise (we had been told a lot of negative things
about AAFCO), the actual people of AAFCO have welcomed
us with enthusiasm. They don't like the bad rep either.

Hope this explains what I mean when I say that they will
get the message.

I'm delivering it myself.

Thanks,

Mike Floyd
mike@defendourpets.org



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« Reply #36 on: January 02, 2008, 11:20:38 PM »

Mary -
     I think your vitamin post at catsite was misinterpreted.  This is not a new recall.  The information that was posted on another thread here is a repeat of the information from the recall in November 2007.  Maybe you should clarify so that you don't get accused of spreading a rumor.
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« Reply #37 on: January 02, 2008, 11:50:38 PM »

Thanks, Mandycat. I just updated the post. But that is why I made no extra comments - just posted what was on the FDA site. I did not state it was a 'new' or 'another' recall. The report states that it is 'on going'.
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« Reply #38 on: January 02, 2008, 11:52:36 PM »

Mary -
     Your post was okay, but from the comment I could see that it was misinterpreted and thought to be a second recall.  Glad you made it clear so you don't get into any more trouble over there!  Wink
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« Reply #39 on: January 03, 2008, 12:15:55 AM »

As long as my posts don't break any of their rules, I should be ok. If someone misunderstands them , well . . .It IS a discussion board.

But Thanks for your correction - I'm grateful that you did bring it to my attention.

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« Reply #40 on: January 03, 2008, 12:31:57 AM »

Good idea, Klondike!
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« Reply #41 on: January 03, 2008, 03:49:09 AM »

I'm very late to this most interesting thread... I followed and read the links and I must say that in a way I am not too surprised that a long-standing cat forum would take this tack on the recall, burying its head and pretending "its over - petfoods have been reformulated - everything is OK now."  What a dangerous mindset.  Like Mike said, it totally overlooks or has forgotten all the flaws in the petfood processing and regulatory business that the recall uncovered.  Its for this reason that I am so glad I found this Itchmo forum where WE don't forget and don't get comfy-complacent with the status quo until the next BIG recall hits... because I have a nagging feeling that contaminated petfood will happen again.
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« Reply #42 on: January 03, 2008, 07:56:10 AM »

Mike, that is wonderful!  It really makes me feel better that the consumer is at least having some voice.  Thank you!  I cant wait to hear your report back about the meeting.   Smiley
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