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my4meezers
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« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2008, 09:21:19 AM »

Trudy, in my heart I honestly believe cats were being poisoned by foods way before the recalls started.  I have a 10 year old with kidney failure and recently lost a 7 year old to kidney failure.  IMO food must play a role in all the young, otherwise healthy cats who have been diagnosed with kidney disease over the last few years.

I am so sorry about NutMeg.  She was absolutely gorgeous.
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mainecoonpeg
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« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2008, 01:17:33 PM »

Trudy, I too am sorry about Nutmeg, she was a beauty for sure!!

I was at the vet's office yesterday and I asked him your question and he fired up his computer.  Trudy, he said he had 5 times the amount of "blocked" cats back in Sept, Oct, Nov, Dec of 2006 than he had in prior "years"!!!!!  He never thought to equate it to poisonous food.  He even saw many blockages Jan-March '07 and needless to say the "poop" hit the fan after then.  He was particularly confused by the fact that there were so many blocked females.  Now, of course, my vet now knows to be suspicious, although there is still a big push for those prescription diets.

Interesting too, is the comment my vet made about how pet food producers go out of their way to "woo" the vets.  My guy said that the little he learned of nutrition he "learned" from the pet food makers.  I just sort of rolled my eyes and hissed at him, but he was honest and said it was never something taught in vet school.  And according to him, it's still not a "course" or topic in their studies!!!

Thud thud......the sound of me banging my head against the wall..................
Good nutrition minus poisons makes for good health?Huh
thud thud thud
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« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2008, 01:49:45 PM »

"He was particularly confused by the fact that there were so many blocked females"

wow. one of the reason's i prefer females health wise, they aren't supposed to block. i have a dalmatian that is genetically programmed to form stones and crystals. it's what you get with the breed. but females blocking are very rare. you still need to feed both cats and blocking breeds (and all animals!) right not to cause issues down the road (kidney failure), but blocking is generally a male issue.

thnaks to your vet for firing up the computer and checking! we should all get our vets to do that . . .    Shocked
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« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2008, 03:33:06 PM »

Trudy, I am truly sorry for your loss.

I think I remember reading that even the FDA thought that the food may have contained poison even in early 2006.  I don't have e link or anything to support that, but I do remember being shocked that they thought it may have been going on so long.
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Trudy
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« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2008, 05:07:48 PM »

Thanks everyone. and yes, let's ask our vets when they had high instances of things going on. i'll find exactually when i lost Her. Then I'll have a date.
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catbird
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« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2008, 05:47:10 PM »

Regarding the issue of "blocked" females:

A spayed female cat belonging to a person I know had to be euthanized in 2004 at the age of only 6.  (This cat was my cat Phantom's kitten; she was born in the very room where I am now typing and I raised her to the age of 13 weeks, so naturally I was very sad about this.  She was the cutest little torti-and-white with a Himmie-style coat that you would ever want to see.)  This 6-year-old, Jezebelle, was in end-stage kidney and liver failure after repeated blocking with "crystals".  She'd first had an episode of UTI and crystals (my guess is struvite) about a year and a half earlier, and their vet had put her on a well-known prescription diet.  It apparently did not help, and this young cat reportedly got worse and worse on the prescription food, blocked several more times, until finally she went into complete kidney and liver failure.  I was quite surprised as I had never heard of that happening to a female cat, but then, I am no vet.

About a year ago, when Phantom had a routine physical and her urine was concentrated (not a big surprise since she is the dry food addict), I mentioned to my vet what had happened to Phantom's daughter, thinking it might be relevant to Phantom's health.  The vet looked at me very oddly, and said that she had never heard of blockages happening to a female to that extent.  (This is a cat specialist who has been in practice for close to 20 years.)

After the recalls started coming out, I really began to think that Jezebelle might have been an early victim of poisoned food.  What mainecoonpeg's vet says makes me think this even more strongly.
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Trudy
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« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2008, 06:39:32 PM »

This does sound strange. Maybe We can get it all peiced together one of these days. I have never heard of it either, never saw it when i worked for the vet, either.
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GoingNUTZoverthis
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« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2008, 11:07:29 AM »

Geisha and Topaz both had issues with IAMS indoor formula mixed with the IAMS Hairball both dry,this was April/May 2006.

Topaz constant unexplainable vomitting after blood work etc, was told she had sensitvie stomach because she was over 7 years.

Geisha had crystals and bloody stool, and loose stools, said to be caused by some large batch of unfounded bacteria, (IN FOOD MAYBE) not thought of at time this is hindsight

Switch to Eukanuba both were fine till my March  with my FF ordeal.
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