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« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2007, 05:39:55 PM » |
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MDCatOwner: You make a good point that you should not have to brief your vet... I do think you can raise these issues with the veterinary associations. Tell them what your experience was, where you think the system failed, what you think should have happened, what you want to happen now and in the future. If you did see anything work well, tell them that too. A "little bit of sugar..." you know the rest. I'd suggest to also ask them what they are doing with the situation as it is now and to prevent anything like it happening again. Ask them what you as a citizen and pet owner can do to help them fix the system. Ask for a response in writing. Give them a phone number to call you if they would like more information. Speaking for myself, I really want to see a "CDC for pets" come out of this. I don't care if it is an existing organization that takes it on, or if it is brand new. But we really need a central organization for collecting and reporting data to vets and the public, creating treatment protocols, etc. I have such a long letter to write. It's going to be hard to be succinct. Here's a link to the State Veterinary Associations. http://www.avma.org/statevma/
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« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2007, 05:48:58 PM » |
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Marilyn, I will help. I haven't been inspired quite yet but I know I will be soon. It could be my 2 year old screaming at the top of her lungs that's affected my inspiration  If you want, give me some points you want to make and Ill construct the letter. Might as well use that journalism degree for something 
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« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2007, 07:48:35 PM » |
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OK, I got inspired. This is my AVMA letter. I tried to write it so there was a specific section to tell your pet's story, but then retain the basic form of the rest of the letter.
Here it is:
AVMA letter
I am writing this letter in the hope that this appeal for action has reached a group of people who care that the companion animals of this country have been poisoned and that many more are being poisoned every day.
In mid-March, one of my cats had been listless for 2 days. Not eating or drinking and generally lethargic. An emergency visit to the vet confirmed that she was in renal failure. Maui spent 3 days on an IV at the vet, away from her family. She returned home and has been on the mend. I was asked to monitor my other two cats and bring them in if there was a problem. All three were woefully thin, struggling to recover from the poison that I unknowingly fed to them – 3 times a day. For months. Now, Cleo, my second cat, has been at the vet for 4 days on an IV with blood in her urine and a 104.9 degree fever. Origins unknown. What we are all beginning to suspect is that all my animals were fed a second round of tainted food 3-4 weeks ago – a product that was recalled with the American Nutrition rash of recalls last week. Dude, my sweet boy kitty, is showing additional symptoms now. Unable to climb onto furniture, tenderness on his back near his tail. He returns to the vet tomorrow.
It doesn’t matter which brand – almost every brand has been recalled. There has been a woeful effort to inform the public of the true state of this issue during a time when every minute meant saving the life of an affected animal. Cleo, Dude and Maui's second exposure was entirely avoidable.
Some dogged journalists and bloggers are keeping on top of this, providing information more timely than our government regulatory agencies. If not for them, I would have buried my beloved animals weeks ago.
The terrible truth is that the entire system has failed.
The AVMA must step up to the plate as an advocate for every pet and pet owner in this country. No one else has done it. Concerned pet owners need you to address these three main issues right now:
1) Making sure every pet parent in the country is informed of the scope of the entire recall and the health ramifications for their pet. 2) Making sure no more tainted food enters the food supply. 3) Making sure every single potentially-tainted item is removed from every store in this country.
The AVMA is in a position to lead the way dealing with this issue. You have a much bigger voice than one pet owner. You have a wealth of avenues to spread information available to you. We have all called the FDA, we have all called and written our representatives. And still, there are more recalls.
To expect the news media to get the word out to pet owners is wrong. It’s not guaranteed. To expect everyone to be internet savvy is not guaranteed either. To expect them to know where to go to find out the information they should have to make an informed decision is foolhardy. This exact deadly scenario has played out over the last 7 seven weeks with terrible consequences.
I would like you to consider doing the following:
o Keep veterinarians informed by mail and web site updates of every bit of information AVMA can find on the issues involved in the recall, including any latest news in the treatment of these poisoned animals. For example, the links to the Canadian University research identifying the cyanuric acid (need this linky). o That the AVMA require each vet to send out a letter to EVERY customer announcing the pet food recall with details of symptoms, locations of comprehensive lists. o Have each vet specifically ask what owners are feeding their pets and document this information for future reference.
It is important that the AVMA act now to get a handle on this widening problem. The burden of providing information to veterinarians to help their sick animals should not be placed on the shoulders of grieving pet owners. But it has. And it will continue unless AVMA steps up to the plate.
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Marilyn
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« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2007, 07:54:55 PM » |
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OK, MD...
Are you trying to construct a general letter that will be sent on everyone's behalf? Or, a suggested letter that people can adapt and send out themselves?
If it is the latter, I would suggest that it start with one paragraph telling that person's story ... their experience and what the outcome was.
Then list the problems with the system: 1. Various associations slow to respond. Veterinarians and staff had to do their own digging for information and often found it faster than the organizations did. 2. No central organization to get information from or to report to (no CDC for pets). 3. Most state organizations more focused on large animal issues, did not step up to help with small animal issues in this crisis.
There's more along those lines... but that's all I can think of now. Will post again when it comes to me.
Moving on to what can be done... 1. Again. We need a CDC for pets (small animals). 2. Organizations need to be more proactive. Need to be on the look-out for problems with small animals (like they are for avian flu, for example), not wait until something like this happens again. 3. When something does happen they need to respond faster to vets and the general public with projections of numbers that could be involved, with information, with advice for treatment protocols, labs ready to do testing, etc. ---- good point to be made here: Clients should not have to brief their vet! 3. Utilize the internet. This crisis has shown the power of the net to inform and effect change. If individual bloggers can dig out the information on their own, there is no reason why the organizations should be lagging 24-48 hours (or even more) behind.
That's all I can think of now. It's getting late and my eyelids are drooping, and my fingers are stuttering... I'll check back tomorrow.
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« Reply #19 on: May 06, 2007, 08:05:51 PM » |
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MDCatOwner Nice letter. You may want to reorder it and get faster to this part. The AVMA must step up to the plate as an advocate for every pet and pet owner in this country. No one else has done it. Concerned pet owners need you to address these three main issues right now:" I personally love the details, but I would move them down and create a specific connection with recall dates if possible. Why? To demonstrate that maybe if the Vets had this info they wouldn't have sent you home to feed the other bad food to your pets. Timing and product names might be useful, Something like: "Dude could have been spared had the AVMA alerted my Vet that X was recalled two days before I visited the office." I think also that one key is to reach the right person with this so that THEY champion this. They are probably thinking something along the same lines and if they have someone from within their own ranks start pushing for it they will "own" the idea more. (I've learned that the "not invented here" viewpoint extends well beyond Silicon Valley 
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« Reply #20 on: May 06, 2007, 08:15:11 PM » |
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thanks spocko. keep the comments coming  marilyn, did you see spocko's comment about who specifically we can send this to, to make it their idea? Do you have any suggestions here? There must be some ombudsman or advocate within each of the veterinarian associations that could be the POC on something like this. And it's just a suggested letter that people can use if they want to. But I do think a concerted timed effort is the way to go. This week because it's National Pet Week.
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« Reply #21 on: May 06, 2007, 09:57:41 PM » |
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The url for the pictures of the crystals is http://www.labservices.uoguelph.ca/urgent.cfm#crystalsand it is on the AVMA site now. Within AVMA I found some possibilities. 1. They have some permanent councils set up for different purposes. I did not find any names there. Since I'm not a vet I can't get to the directories. But a couple of the councils might be appropriate to send letters to. - "The AVMA Constitution and Bylaws call for 7 standing councils. The councils serve as advisory bodies to the Executive Board. The councils anticipate the needs of the profession, address issues in their assigned areas, and recommend appropriate actions to the Executive Board. Council members are elected to 6-year terms by the House of Delegates at an annual session to represent specific areas of the profession. The Councils meet twice a year. Judicial Education Research Biologic and Therapeutic Agents Public Health and Regulatory Veterinary Service Veterinary Medicine Communications 2. AVMA is active in Washington, DC on many issues. There is a Dr. Doug Meckes that is the contact for food safety issues that might be related to our issues. - Contact: Dr. Doug Meckes, 800-321-1473 ext. 3210 I think I'd start with Dr. Meckes.
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« Reply #22 on: May 06, 2007, 10:27:16 PM » |
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While rifling through various AVMA documents I found this... "The University of Tennessee College of Veterinary Medicine has formed The Center for Agriculture and Food Security and Preparedness (CAFSP). This new Center is led by Dr. Sharon Thompson, Director of Partnership Programs at the UTCVM. Dr. Thompson is also the project director for the DHS training grant and other homeland security related grants and contracts. Other UTCVM faculty and other partnering institutions will be involved in the Center activities. CAFSP will provide a readily accessible web portal to facilitate registration for the DHS training program as well as showcase other College homeland security related activities. The College is committed to assisting the nation to protect its critical infrastructure, including agriculture and the food supply." http://tinyurl.com/2euu2eI just sent an email to Dr. Thompson to ask for her comments and insights. I'll let you know if I get anything back.
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« Reply #23 on: May 06, 2007, 10:32:38 PM » |
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Marilyn: Bingo! I'd go for: The heads of these two committees Public Health and Regulatory Veterinary Service Veterinary Medicine Communications 2. AVMA is active in Washington, DC on many issues. There is a Dr. Doug Meckes that is the contact for food safety issues that might be related to our issues. - Contact: Dr. Doug Meckes, 800-321-1473 ext. 3210 I also agree start with Dr. Meckes. We can ask what he is PLANNING on doing. He might have a program in the hopper for just such an occasion (we can always hope) some times I assume that people don't think the same way we do and so I embarrass myself. I've learned to ask questions first. Say for example that Dr. Meckes is TOTALLY behind this and is planning on rolling it out soon. Then we ask. "Tell me about it? and "How can we help?" Then listen to his answer. Maybe I should make a call tomorrow...
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« Reply #24 on: May 07, 2007, 04:48:50 AM » |
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Well, I sent letters out to the folks in the header, plus our Governor, Agri Commission, Consumer Protection, the meat & poultry hotline, vet organizations, pet food industry, media.
I'm not good at staying on point, and if you want to use any of it please do so.
To: Honorable Senators & Representatives: Rosa DeLauro 1202-225-3661 Dick Durbin 1202-225-0400 Saxby Chambliss 1202-224-0103 Collin Peterson 1202-225-1593
I respectfully ask that there is an independent government agency established that focuses their concerns on the American Citizens health and well being. Pandering to business, consultants and lobbyists has to end before any program can be effective.
Conflicts of interest must be the first issue addressed when establishing persons or agencies.
"A survey released in July by the Union of Concerned Scientists (UCS), which found that one in six of the nearly 1,000 FDA scientists who responded said they had their work manipulated or suppressed in favour of industry. " (see below)
Number one mandate: Pure Food and Drug Act of 1906 United States Statutes at Large (59th Cong., Sess. I, Chp. 3915, p. 768-772) Please, consider the process must include the ability to recall and to inform the public in order for them to protect their health, their families, their companion animals and livestock at a level that our government is not capable of reaching promptly.
Please, consider that there must be substantial fines and prosecution to deter those committing such egregious acts as those we have witnessed during the pet food contamination scandal from the FDA, Menu Foods, Pet Food Institute, Brands and their Associations and Chinese businessmen.
We must acknowledge that allowing minimal toxicity into our foods carries the weight of responsibility for causing such ingredients to collide with other toxins. To not be aware of the implications of those toxins we have allowed already into our system is criminal negligence. Common sense can not belong to a political party, but Common Sense must be a character trait of those who are put into the positions of responsibility to protect our food and drugs.
To release the melamine contaminated swine & poultry back into the recycle process to pet foods would be negligent, foolish and criminal cruelty to animals.
Melamine was found by scientists at the University of Guelpf to form crystals when cyanuric acid and melamine were combined in feline urine and formed the crystals implicated in the illness and deaths of companion animals.
The fact is that cyanuric acid, triuret, mineral oil, urea, biuret are allowable in animal water & feed supplies.
(see TITLE 21--FOOD AND DRUGS, CHAPTER I--FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES , SUBCHAPTER E--ANIMAL DRUGS, FEEDS, AND RELATED PRODUCTS PART 573 -- FOOD ADDITIVES PERMITTED IN FEED AND DRINKING WATER OF ANIMALS ,Subpart B--Food Additive Listing Sec. 573.220 Feed-grade biuret allowing those toxins.)
It is not beyond reason to be more concerned than our newly dubbed Food Czar, aka Brownie Jr, David Acherson. To not comprehend more than dilution theories truly insults the American people.
Please do not let those 20million chickens to return to the pet food recycle circle.
Conflict of interest from politicians, scientists, businesses and lobbyists dulls the meaning of expenditures for the good of the people & they have neither capacity nor incentive to consider the WHOLE of American Food Safety.
Please do not abandon the people and animals of the United States while pursuing their protection and lean in favor of other interests. That protection of food supplies for living things must be the one and only reason to fund such projects. If it cannot be, then what good is the system under any form?
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« Reply #25 on: May 07, 2007, 01:30:13 PM » |
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Concerning the AVMA councils: They only meet twice a year and there was nothing on the website to indicate when that might be. Of course, they may be in touch with each other and be working their issues throughout the year.
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« Reply #26 on: May 07, 2007, 08:52:25 PM » |
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I like the idea! I also think we ought to ALL get in touch with some of the attorneys who are filing class action lawsuits. The point is that maybe they can represent new issues such as fraud, being lied to, etc. When filing against a big company, it goes to the Federal Courts and it WILL get media coverage at that point.
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« Reply #27 on: May 08, 2007, 06:58:20 AM » |
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One of the other veterinary organizations to write to is the American Animal Hospital Association. They inspect and give accreditation to clinics and hospitals that pass the criterion. Their accreditation is highly prized by clinics and also by pet parents who know about them. This would be a good organization to contact if you would like to see them help their member clinics and hospitals be better prepared for a crisis like this. I think they would welcome suggestions. And as Spocko suggested in a previous post, it would be good to ask them what they may already be working on and how you can help. I'd be surprised if this weren't a big topic for internal discussion. They are also all about education and ethics, so those are areas that could be addressed also. These would be good people to tell that you should not need to brief your vet. They did send us a letter on March 19 about the first recall with a protocol for treatment, but it was very sketchy and that is all they have sent us since. They do have some information for the general public on their home page, but it is very general. So I definitely think they could be a lot more proactive if something like this ever hits us again. After scouring their website directories, I could not find any one person that would be the best target for communications. So, I think it would be best to send letters to the Board of Directors. Some of them have backgrounds in animal welfare, ethics, etc. One of them graduated from the University of Guelph where so much of the news about melamine/cyanuric acid has been coming from, another one graduated from Cornell which has also been working on this, and so on. You can access their bios at http://tinyurl.com/3chlkj I would send letters to the President at Dr Thomas A Carpenter American Animal Hospital Association Board of Directors P.O. Box 150899 Denver, Colorado, USA 80215-0899 Phone: 303/986-2800 Toll Free: 800/252-2242 FAX: 303/986-1700 Email: info@aahanet.org
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« Reply #28 on: May 08, 2007, 09:01:12 AM » |
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M, thank you for all your research on this. I'm gonna revamp my letter today and post it again with suggestions and nail down specifically who we think it should go to. I've discovered that I can fax things directly from my computer and I'm having a ball here sending letters to the members of the Ag committee. Anyone want some help setting this up, let me know  Talked again with my Mom. Her belief is that since most legislation in Committee or elsewhere gets designed while members of Congress are being pinged by lobbyists makes this avenue, at best, simply a way for us to let the Congress know we are watching them. Hitting someone who can take decisive steps to make a difference in this matter is where our energies need to be directed. Big business has already had their say. It's time that we had ours.
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« Reply #29 on: May 08, 2007, 11:18:57 AM » |
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OK. Here's another organization we can contact. The World Veterinary Association. I'm excited about this one. Let's keep pounding on our own government and national organizations, but why stop there? Our problems are global, so let's go global! I just subscribed to their newsletters. The World Veterinary Association's website is www.worldvet.orgTheir mission statement: "The WVA serves the Veterinary Profession, Veterinary Medicine and Science and promotes its rights, standards and competence. It serves the societies at global international level. It promotes animal health and well-being and human health through sustainable and humane use and management of animals. It contributes to the protection and sustainability of the environment." And their current president is right here in the states... President Prof Leon Russell 33 Linda Lane College Station, TX 77845, USA Tel (work) 979-845-3517 Fax (work) 979-847-8981 Email: lrdvm@tca.net or lrussell@cvm.tamu.edu
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