Sorta along the lines I was thinking of - KLONDIKE - YOU LISTENING?   

Since I'm just startin, would take me awhile to build up.  But would be willing to buy food.  Most interested in your latest recipe iwth the peas, kdiney beans in the Kaffe cooks CRF thread (think that would be good for other kitties too).

Been doing my research, but so MANY DIFFERENT RECIPES, and SO MANY DIFFERENT WHAT SUPPLEMENTS DO WE USE - is driving me a little bonkers (I'm sure you can rerlate).

Carol, well I had also contacted the PFC at the same time in Dec 2006 and sent off samples to them in Jan 2007 and yep, did get the food is fine "cwap" from them.  We had also requested copies of the lab reports to prove they tested it, never got those either......One of the universities said they would test it but only as part of a class for their students which wouldnt begin until months later, too late by then.  Another said they would prefer a diagnosis in our cat before they would test so they could know where to begin, well that wasnt possible because at that time, no one knew what was wrong with her.  Another univ said they would test it but only for bacteria, they didnt have the equipment for toxin testing....I had thought about letting them know later that she died and that her brand food was officially recalled on April 12th 2007, but then thought what was the point.  Perhaps some of them looked back when they heard about the recalls and remembered our request, I dont know.   

By the way, the food she was eating was Nutro Max Cat California Chicken Supreme.  I also called them first in Dec just to ask if they had had any formula changes.  They said no so I went on my not-so-merry way trying to figure out why she was acting funny about her food and getting sick.... 

JJ, Im right beside you just spitting away.  Im with you friend, 

Poor Kiki.  Same thing Isis was eating.  Isis was luckier.  My cats also ate the dry Nutro.

Cameo started refusing the Cal Chicken and other Nutro canned foods around March 2006.  I thought it was just her.  Never dreamed there was anything wrong with the food.

BTW I still have a can in my "archives."

Is it worth it to start a thread here at itchmo with people listing the dates they called or emailed, who they contacted, and their response as well as details of their cat or dog 's illness?  It probably would be very painful but if more people see how many tried to get some answers months before this was made public---just maybe this would be that wake up call that is needed to get those involved that did not use the recalled foods.....just a thought....we have to keep this in the news somehow ---otherwise it will be forgotten -except by us here!

I think any information that continues to be revealed is beneficial to the cause. 

I would also hope it helps people to understand that this is not just an issue with Menu and ingredients from China.  Test results and pet illness has proven that.
Donna C

Trudy, as much as I hate to admit it in a forum like this one, I worked for the liability claims handler for P&G when the pet food issue broke. I was not a claims handler--I was in sales. My boss had to cancel a meeting I had with prospects because he had to fly to Cincy to talk to P&G about how they were going to handle things the day before it all went public.

The problem is that pets are classified as 'property' under the law. Which limits one's recompense if that property is compromised. (Yes, that's how it is worded in claims). You may have a case if you have records showing what you paid for the animal, and perhaps if you have records regarding what you paid to show it, data regarding stud fees, etc. But it's a hard case.

I think, and I may be wrong as I was not actively involved, that this was a class action suit, meaning an average payout was determined and paid to all claimants. Is that consistent with your experience? I know there were discussions with P&G around overall business impact. I told my boss flat-out (and he was dog owner too) that if P&G killed my dog, they could bet their asses that I would NEVER buy another P&G product again in my life. I'd take whatever means were necessary to ensure that. Which would cost a lot more to them than whatever they felt they should pay for a pet. Not sure where that ended up as I was not part of the claims team. But I can assure you, my company made a lot of money from this CAT (our industry lingo for a catastrophe). Insurance carriers and claims handlers were the only ones who did.

Even though it is incredibly painful to the pet families, all liability cases are handled in the same manner, human or pet. A man who is steadily employed, killed or maimed in the prime of his life, gets a higher payout than a child or a woman st home with her kids, because there are external ways to quantify his worth. It's just sick, isn't it?   A dead claimant is worth less than a live but maimed claimant. It is really enough to make you vomit and then want to hurt someone. Welcome to the world of insurance claims. It's a mean, nasty place in many ways.

Even with Worker's Compensation--in many states, my leg is worth more than a laborer's leg if lost. Why? Because my weekly wage is higher. Yes, I can do my job with NO legs, and the laborer obviously can not, but I would be paid more in many states because I earn more, even though that loss of leg impacts my earning potential in less significant ways.

I don't even know where to start in an attempt to change the system. There are many, many flaws.  With human and animal loss.