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Author Topic: New suit - Human grade  (Read 10815 times)
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Spartycats
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« on: August 31, 2009, 06:35:22 AM »

I just wandered across this:

http://www.courthousenews.com/2009/08/31/Pet_Food_Isn_t_Human_Grade_Class_Claims.htm

http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-cacdce/case_no-2:2009cv06194/case_id-452424/

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« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2009, 06:55:25 AM »

Good catch.  I suspected it was just a matter of time until someone challenged the "Human Grade" marketing claim.

Going to watch this one closely being a Wellness customer since 2004. 
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« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2009, 07:02:58 AM »

Glad to see this is happening, and I hope it brings in some changes.  That's one of the reasons I chose that line of food for my pets.  I thought I was feeding them human grade, quality ingredients.  I sure wish they would add denaturing chemicals to their list.
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« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2009, 08:11:49 AM »

Lawsuit on "Human Grade" ingredients in pet food contact info 4 plaintiff class attorneys http://bit.ly/zuHf4
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Spartycats
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« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2009, 08:26:06 AM »

I'm going to post this FSIS notice here, as a study in contrasts.  Human grade?
Animal food is apparently not "edible".

http://www.fsis.usda.gov/OPPDE/rdad/FSISNotices/58-09.pdf

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« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2009, 10:37:20 PM »

This may be the only way to get some truth into pet food advertising.  My state ag rep told me back in 2007 that they are just overwhelmed with all the bull on pet food labels.  And in this economy, we can't really afford to expand government, so hope this gets a message across.
Not just truth into advertising BUT the real ingredients clearly spelled out on the label as well. It just goes back to the money, always about the money, follow the money, money never lies but we all know who does and hopefully the jig is up this time.
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« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2009, 05:09:36 AM »

Saw this at Twitter this morning! 

http://www.courthousenews.com/2009/08/31/Pet_Food_Isn_t_Human_Grade_Class_Claims.htm

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« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2009, 05:13:55 AM »

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« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2009, 05:17:12 AM »

I know nothing about the law but couldnt this case make a difference for other pet food companies as well with all the claims they make regarding their food?  I had no idea this was even happening!  Since this is a Federal case, would there be anything on Justia maybe?
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« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2009, 05:41:34 AM »

I do have to say Im wondering why they chose to go after this company......altho Sophers doesnt eat Wellness it did seem like one of the better foods out there, wouldnt they have been more successful against a different company?  I just hope it makes an impact against all of the companies as far as labeling and their claims....

oh duh, Sparty already posted the Justia link....sorry bout that....guess Im not awake yet.   Roll Eyes
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« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2009, 07:19:36 AM »

They probably picked this company because of the wording of their human grade claims. Hopefully it will lead to clear labeling of all petfood.
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« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2009, 07:23:40 AM »

This is especially interesting to me as we are looking at packing Products from our Cattle to sell to smaller caring Petshops.

It seems a little foggy. Right now it appears to me that if I call it Pet Food, it has to be labeled "Not for Human Consumpton". So, that means the small USDA Butcher Plant will likely have to Package with a USDA Label and give it the USDA Food Grad Label. That in turn means the Pet shop would need to purchase a Meat Sellers License at about $170 in our State....

Anyways, that is my understanding. It goes back to the delineation of Pet Food vs Human Food,

Patt
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« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2009, 08:48:48 AM »

I don't think this case stands much of a chance, since there is no legal definition of "human grade" -JMO.
FDA/AAFCO says it's not about the ingredients, but the handling of the ingredients.


"“Human grade” has no formal legal definition. But the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) Center for Veterinary Medicine has taken the position that if every ingredient in a product is edible, meaning that it was processed according to rules of sanitation required of food sold to people, then the product may be labeled “human grade,” said Dr. William Burkholder, a veterinary medical officer and the agency’s resident pet nutrition expert.

Because of its misuse, many players in the industry decry the label. “It is essentially a made-up term used by marketing interests to describe and promote products in light of anthropomorphic responses people have to their pets,” David Syverson, chair of the Association of American Feed Control Officials’ Pet Food Committee wrote in an e-mail response to questions.

Regardless whether a pet-food product meets the standard for human-edible food, people tend to misunderstand the term, Syverson said. He suspects consumers believe it applies to various body parts - intestines versus muscle, for instance - but it does not.

Whether a food is edible for humans “has little to do with the nature of the product. It has everything to do with how the product is handled,” he said.

What, then, is the difference between people food and pet food? From the government’s point of view, the key distinction rests in rules governing the handling of food products, which are aimed chiefly at sanitation. “For animal feeds, of which pet foods are a subset, there are currently no ‘good manufacturing practices’ in regulation,” the FDA’s Burkholder said."

http://news.vin.com/VINNews.aspx?articleId=12031



 
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« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2009, 10:07:17 AM »

Spartycats, haven't been able to read the complaint yet, but I believe it's for fraud, different
legal animal.
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« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2009, 10:12:37 AM »

This is especially interesting to me as we are looking at packing Products from our Cattle to sell to smaller caring Petshops.

It seems a little foggy. Right now it appears to me that if I call it Pet Food, it has to be labeled "Not for Human Consumpton". So, that means the small USDA Butcher Plant will likely have to Package with a USDA Label and give it the USDA Food Grad Label. That in turn means the Pet shop would need to purchase a Meat Sellers License at about $170 in our State....

Anyways, that is my understanding. It goes back to the delineation of Pet Food vs Human Food,

Patt

Hey Pat,

Don't you have to also denature the product in some way so it doesn't get mixed up with people food on it's way to the pet food store? Whole other topic, but it also delineates the erroneous use of "human grade."
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