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« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2008, 05:35:19 PM »

I think the underfunding and understaffing for FDA, CVM, CPSC, FSIS, USFDA is kind of the
result of intentional design on the part of industry through a lot of lobbying, too . After all, if
you're going to cut corners and produce less safe product with questionable ingredients, you don't want
strong regulators. Isyourpetfoodsafe, we all looked at the Science and Technology report from inside FDA in 2007 
commenting on the lack of equipment and inability to keep up with current science and understaffing.
But it doesn't hurt to be reminded of some of the problems. So thank you, and welcome to Itchmo.
Feel free to join in and write to the House Energy committee trying to get evidence that the FDA needs
more authority to act, and better funding and staffing, and better equipment.
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« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2008, 09:18:02 PM »

In the way of contrasting opinion, I don't go for the argument these agencies lack funding. The FDA for example, has historically received on the order of a 10% increase in funding each and every year. What these agencies lack is intense public oversight. When you have inspectors making $60K per year, to investigate multi billion dollar mega corporations, and everything takes place in secrecy, behind closed doors, you're asking for trouble. At that point you may as well disband the agency in question, save tax payers billions in wasted tax dollars, and let the corporations pass on their savings on bribes to the consumer.

The FDA's budget is currently well in excess of $2 billion annually. That is a LOT of money! It's my view tax payers need to take a few steps back from the "mo' money" mantra, and start demanding value received for value given. A fairly simple mechanism to accomplish that goal would be to make it a standard practice to fire the top highest paid 5% of agency management whenever government agencies fail to fulfill the objectives that are the sole reason for their existance in the first place. Agencies should also be subject to the same kind of reorganization that benefits large corporations when companies find themselves bogged down due to lack of efficency and productivity - consolidate, eliminate nonproducing units, lay off unproductive staff, replace ineffective management, etc..
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« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2008, 09:26:08 AM »

In the entire history of Washington, D.C., government bureaucracies, except for changes in appointing party
administrations on jobs that are political appointments, I don't even think you can wholesale fire civil servants? It sounds like
a good idea, but I think the civil service GS system protects the employees from such actions at least presently
to prevent wholesale changes based solely on politics theoretically. Performance rarely seems to factor in.
I agree, Don, maybe it should. Also thought Bush administration had limited FDA budget increase to something like
3 percent for the next fiscal year, you know, based on the failed philosophy that free enterprise is self-monitoring
and self-correcting, as it has not done in the case of people and pet food production.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/30/health/policy/30heparin.html?em&ex=1209700800&en=2c7f1b380ee3057e&ei=5087%0A
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« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2008, 10:14:12 AM »

If they do end up limited to a 3% increase, that'll be the first time in a long time. The last I heard, they'd been handed a substantial appropriation to hire more staff, etc.. Still, Congress should stop trying to fix every broken agency by throwing more money at it.

I saw a great quote awhile back, something along the lines of: "When government gets big enough to give you everything you want, it's big enough to take everything you have."
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« Reply #19 on: June 04, 2008, 07:56:24 AM »

Look what popped up at FSIS regarding performance and pay. It surprised me:

http://www.fsis.usda.gov/News_&_Events/NR_053008_01/index.asp
FSIS to Host OPM Public Meeting to Discuss Proposed Pay-For-Performance System Demonstration Project
Meeting information and other related documents are available on the FSIS Web site at http://www.fsis.usda.gov/News_&_Events/
Meetings_&_Events/index.asp.
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« Reply #20 on: June 05, 2008, 07:10:34 AM »

If they do end up limited to a 3% increase, that'll be the first time in a long time. The last I heard, they'd been handed a substantial appropriation to hire more staff, etc.. Still, Congress should stop trying to fix every broken agency by throwing more money at it.

I saw a great quote awhile back, something along the lines of: "When government gets big enough to give you everything you want, it's big enough to take everything you have."

Don, whenever they hold oversight committee meetings (I watch those occasionally) - the answer from the agency is always mo' money.  The FDA does spend a lot of that on drugs (which seems to be a mainstay maker for everyone concerned) - and less on food (much less pet food).

Also, deregulation doesn't seem to work (look at the Credit Card Industry) - and extrapolate that to the drug industry.

The antithesis answer would be to spend less on drugs, and more on food?  That, of course, has been their arguments to the house and senate when it cmes to budgeting.
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« Reply #21 on: June 05, 2008, 02:22:52 PM »

the answer from the agency is always mo' money

Yes, I understand that. It's the stock answer for every government agency that isn't getting the job done. In fact, it's SOP in most agencies to let the work that needs to be done pile up in order to make the argument for mo' money. The endemic problem is government waste. Mo' money doesn't cure that sort of problem, it makes it worse.

When the people vote for bread and circuses, you end up with a government run by over fed clowns.
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