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« on: June 06, 2009, 07:45:08 AM »

These minutes are from the AAFCO Pet Food Committee meeting in January 2009.
Committee Members Industry Advisors that were present
Dr. William Burkholder (FDA-CVM)
Jan Campbell (NGFA)
Tony Claxton (MO)
Nancy Cook (PFI)
Elizabeth Higgins (NM)
Dr. David Dzanis (ACVN, APPMA)
Roger Hoestenbach (TX)
Jarrod Kersey (AFIA)
Eric Nelson (FDA-CVM)
Dr. Angele Thompson (PFI)
Dr. Rod Noel (IN)
Jason Vickers (AFIA)

http://www.aafco.org/Portals/0/Public/PFC_01-21-09_Minutes.pdf

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5. REPORT OF THE SMALL PET FOOD/TREAT MANUFACTURERS
WORKING GROUP – Lynn Sheridan
Lynn Sheridan was unable to attend this meeting and did not provide a report.
The working group has not met since the 2008 annual meeting. A report will be
given at the 2009 annual meeting.

6. NUTRIENT PROFILES AND FEEDING PROTOCOLS EXPERT
COMMITTEE WORKING GROUP – Dr. Bill Burkholder
There are no documents for the committee to review at this meeting. The
Nutrient Profiles and Feeding Protocol Working Groups are actively working.
The Feeding Protocol Working Group is 80-90% done with their revisions and
recommendations. The Cat Food Nutrient Profiles Working Group is behind the
Dog Food Nutrient Profiles Working Group. These groups are taking a
meticulous look at what is in place, what might need to be changed and whether
or not a specific change is needed to nutrient levels or methods. Dr. Burkholder
said that good progress is being made. The scheduling and contact problems have
been worked out. Dr. Burkholder is not sure if documents will be available at the
annual meeting.


7. 2007 FDAAA UP
DATE – Dr. Bill Burkholder
This work is ongoing. The regulations establishing updated standards for the
labeling of pet food that include nutritional and ingredient information are now in
the review stage with the legal department at FDA. There is work ongoing on a
daily basis. Dr. Burkholder did not know when the Federal Register notice would
be out but to watch for it. Dr. Neal Battaler stated that he did not have any new
information to report.


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« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2009, 07:58:28 AM »

I think the Pet Food industry is a hopeless mess.  Any unity that existed in the run up to 07 pretty much went up in smoke and it's in survival mode.  (Whatever method "to big to fail" engages in)

What we really need is a Pet Food industry sector with no ties to Big Feed.

My pet isn't "livestock".



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« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2009, 09:54:33 AM »

Same crew of the "usual suspects" that have produced all the pet food recalls since 2000, without any
documents published to review or criticize or inform the public of any significant changes in commercial
pet food. Why would these manufacturers want to make any changes in the "golden goose of commercial
pet food" since US consumers keep buying it at ever higher prices?
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« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2009, 12:05:34 PM »


emailed Burkholder:
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Not having labels on the products on the shelf that represents what is in the can is mis-leading advertising.

Allowing a time lag to change the labels can jeopardize the health of some animals. More and more of pet parents have companion animals with health issues from eating recalled pet foods, foods that changed ingredients but not the label and aggravated allergic reactions and they are trying really hard to help maintain quality of life and quality of nutrition.  Any part of our government or the pet food industry that doesn't recognize that cannot be dedicated to safe, nutritious pet foods. Any changes in labeling or nutrient profiles should take that into consideration.

The other frustrating part about AAFCO and those labels on the food - that’s what is supposed to be there. According AVMA Journal, they found the actual measurements to be “significantly” different.

Link to Feb 2009 AVMA Journal article:

http://avmajournals.avma.org/doi/abs/10.2460/javma.234.3.347?journalCode=javma

That, along with the information about how the recent Nutro Cat food recall came about, puts a glaring spotlight on the fact that 1) QA on incoming ingredients failed, no tests to confirm specifications were done 2) QA on finished goods (the foods you buy that your pet eats) failed, no tests to confirm the product actually met the standards as advertised.

If we’re going to have animals as “family” then we are becoming obligated to protect their health by calling the pet food companies and asking very specific questions. They are profoundly efficient at non-answers and it’s hard to be sure they really told you the truth. If you ask “how much”, for example, they could tell you they don’t know the “exact amount”. On the other hand, if you ask what is the range of levels of X, then they might actually give you an idea of what is in the food. BUT, that can only happen if they do QA tests on the ingredients and QA tests on the finished pet food.

I seriously doubt that Nutro is the only one not doing sufficient QA on nutrient profiles of their finish products. Products that are sold and fed.

Where does that leave the pet parents as consumers?

Marion Nestle had some good summary recommendations:

http://www.foodpolitics.com/2009/06/whats-up-with-nutro-pet-foods/

“For everyone: Insist that the companies that make foods for people and pets tell you what is in their products, where the ingredients come from, whether they are testing, and what the results of those tests might be.”

And you know, as well as many of us, that talking to a pet food company is getting pumped full of public relations feel good instead of the truth about the pet foods.

Don't continue as FDA, CVM and AAFCO to be facilitators of media spins, become facilitators of good science behind safety and nutrition instead. Isn't that your job?

Sincerely,
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« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2009, 01:21:50 PM »

Thanks, Beyond-Pissed. Everything you said is so true, and nothing that AAFCO or the CVM has ever cared to
respond to or make an effort to change or is required by law to change. But maybe someday. We all keep
hoping and trying.
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« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2009, 04:19:09 PM »

Hey, in those meeting Minutes, they forgot to say what kind of dougnuts they got because from what I can read, with what little that was accomplished at that meeting, Im guessing thats the only reason any of them showed up....for the doughnuts.  By the way,  I like mine with icing and sprinkles please.  Grin Tongue
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« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2009, 04:15:57 AM »

LOLOL.  It seems the taxpayers foot the bills for doing nada. Maybe they should use netmeeting or something for the NONmeetings. oh gosh, that'd save money on doughnuts too!
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« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2009, 08:55:16 AM »

AAFCO
A verage   A dult   F eels   C ommittee   O  UT   OF TOUCH! 
Oh, now it makes sense.. Angry
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