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Title: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: Spartycats on October 22, 2009, 08:42:24 AM
A question was raised in another thread, so I thought I'd start a new thread.
This is what I've found so far:

"But what about our dogs and cats? Can they catch or spread H1N1 (Swine) flu to each other or members of their human family? Most likely, the answer is no. This is to say that to date there are no known dog/cat to human (or vice-versa) influenza transmissions."

http://vetmedicine.about.com/b/2009/09/18/can-my-dog-or-cat-get-swine-flu.htm (http://vetmedicine.about.com/b/2009/09/18/can-my-dog-or-cat-get-swine-flu.htm)



"Q:Can my pet get the 2009 H1N1 virus?

A:To date, there is no evidence that cats or dogs are susceptible to this new strain of influenza; it appears to be transmitted only from person to person or from human to swine. On October 9, 2009, a USDA laboratory confirmed 2009/H1N1 infection in a ferret. The ferret's owner had previously been ill. At this time, there are no reports of 2009/H1N1 flu being transmitted from a ferret to a person.

The best advice is to always follow common sense guidelines when dealing with animals (eg, washing your hands). In addition, it's more important than ever that pet owners keep a good eye on their pet's health and consult a veterinarian if their pet is showing any signs of illness. Keeping your pets healthy reduces their risk of becoming ill."

http://www.avma.org/public_health/influenza/new_virus/new_flu_virus_faq.asp (http://www.avma.org/public_health/influenza/new_virus/new_flu_virus_faq.asp)

ETA: Somehow this line makes me giggle, though I know what they mean:
Keeping your pets healthy reduces their risk of becoming ill



Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: 3catkidneyfailure on November 04, 2009, 10:35:14 AM
Breaking news H1N1 flu virus confirmed in cat in Iowa! This virus has not been seen in cats B4. http://ow.ly/zdZM
Reported by the AVMA

H1N1 flu confirmed in Iowa cat

Schaumburg, IL
— A cat in Iowa has tested positive for the 2009 H1N1 influenza virus, state officials confirmed this morning, marking the first time a cat has been diagnosed with this strain of influenza.

The cat, which has recovered, is believed to have caught the virus from someone in the household who was sick with H1N1. There are no indications that the cat passed the virus on to any other animals or people.

Prior to this diagnosis, the 2009 H1N1 influenza virus had been found in humans, pigs, birds and ferrets


http://ow.ly/zdZM
The AVMA is actively tracking all instances of H1N1 in animals and posting updates on our Web site at www.avma.org/public_health/influenza/new_virus.


November 4, 2009
H1N1 confirmed in Iowa cat
A 13-year old cat in Iowa developed signs of a respiratory infection after several people in the household were ill. Preliminary testing was positive for 2009 H1N1 on October 29 and the results were confirmed on November 2. This is the first report of a cat infected with the 2009 H1N1 influenza virus. The cat is recovering from its illness. To date, there is no evidence that the cat passed the virus to any people.

November 3, 2009
H1N1 confirmed in commercial swine herd in Indiana.

November 2, 2009
The USDA has begun posting test results for domestic animals infected with H1N1.

To date, 2009 H1N1 influenza virus infection of pigs has been reported in Canada, Argentina, Singapore, the United Kingdom (Northern Ireland), Ireland, Norway, the U.S. and Japan. It has also been reported in turkeys in Chile and Canada. Based on the evidence available at this time, the infections were spread from humans to the animals. View the International Society for Infectious Disease's October 28 update on H1N1 infection of commercial swine in Iceland.


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: menusux on November 04, 2009, 10:43:35 AM
http://www.avma.org/press/releases/091104_H1N1_Iowa_cat.asp

AVMA November 4, 2009

Schaumburg, IL — "A cat in Iowa has tested positive for the 2009 H1N1 influenza virus, state officials confirmed this morning, marking the first time a cat has been diagnosed with this strain of influenza.

"The cat, which has recovered, is believed to have caught the virus from someone in the household who was sick with H1N1. There are no indications that the cat passed the virus on to any other animals or people.

"Prior to this diagnosis, the 2009 H1N1 influenza virus had been found in humans, pigs, birds and ferrets.

"The American Veterinary Medical Association (AVMA) and the American Association of Feline Practitioners (AAFP) are reminding pet owners that some viruses can pass between people and animals, so this was not an altogether unexpected event. Pet owners should monitor their pets' health very closely, no matter what type of animal, and visit a veterinarian if there are any signs of illness.

"The AVMA is actively tracking all instances of H1N1 in animals and posting updates on our Web site at www.avma.org/public_health/influenza/new_virus.

"For more information, contact Michael San Filippo, AVMA media relations assistant, at 847-285-6687 (office), 847-732-6194 (cell), or msanfilippo@avma.org."


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: Sandi K on November 04, 2009, 10:48:09 AM
This is exactly what I was afraid to see.....I worry about my Sophers with her immune system issues as well as her battle with the coronavirus....shoot!


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: Carol on November 04, 2009, 10:49:04 AM
this transferring from species to species is freaking me out...I wonder if the seasonal flu does too and we just know about it...  ???


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: 3catkidneyfailure on November 04, 2009, 10:52:04 AM
Not good news for sure, Sandi, for anyone, human or pet.

Ferret has died & cat diagnosed w/H1N1 #pets #dogs #cats AVMA tracking H1N1 in animals & posting updates on Web site at http://bit.ly/COtzq

http://www.avma.org/public_health/influenza/new_virus/new_flu_virus_faq.asp
Further from AVMA website updated on Nov. 4. 2009:

Q: Can my pet get the 2009 H1N1 virus?

A:Until recently, we had no reason to believe pets could be infected with the 2009 H1N1 virus because it is very uncommon for flu viruses to jump between species. However, on October 9, 2009, a USDA laboratory confirmed 2009/H1N1 infection in a ferret. The ferret's owner had recently been ill with the flu. Ferrets are more susceptible to infection with influenza viruses, so this was not altogether surprising. At this time, there are no reports of the 2009 H1N1 flu virus being transmitted from a ferret to a person.

On November 4, the Iowa State Veterinarian and the Iowa Department of Public Health announced that a pet cat was confirmed infected with the 2009 H1N1 flu virus. The cat's owners were ill and the cat developed respiratory symptoms shortly afterward. The cat has recovered and there is no evidence at this time that the cat passed the virus to any people.

Pets that live indoors, especially cats, tend to have close contact with their owners – after all, that's why we have pets – and that increases their exposure to diseases. The best advice is to always follow common sense guidelines when dealing with animals (for example, washing your hands). In addition, it's more important than ever that pet owners keep a good eye on their pet's health and consult a veterinarian if their pet is showing any signs of illness. Keeping your pets healthy reduces their risk of becoming ill.

Q:I've heard about ferrets and a cat getting the 2009 H1N1 virus. Should I get rid of my ferret or cat so my family is protected?

A:Certainly not. This is not cause for panic and extreme measures. You are much more likely to catch the flu (any type of flu, including the 2009 H1N1 flu) from an infected person than you are from an animal. So far, all of the pets infected with the 2009 H1N1 virus became infected from being around their ill owners. The main lesson here is that if you're feeling ill and have flu-like symptoms, you should probably limit your contact with your pets until you are feeling better. As always, if your pet is showing signs of illness, it should be examined by a veterinarian.

Q:Can my pot-bellied pig get the 2009 H1N1 virus and give it to me?

A:To date, the 2009 H1N1 virus has not been reported in pot-bellied pigs. However, the possibility of human-to-pig transmission of the virus warrants extra caution by pig owners. After all, pot-bellied pigs are considered swine, and therefore may be susceptible to the virus. For the time being, a cautious approach would include all contact between your pig and anyone who is ill or has recently been exposed to an ill person. Remember that pot-bellied pigs can become ill from a number of causes, and keeping your pig healthy and free of disease helps protect your pig as well as you. If you have a pet pig and it appears ill, consult a veterinarian immediately.

Q:There are feral pigs in my area. Can they spread the 2009 H1N1 virus?

A: To date, the 2009 H1N1 virus has not been reported in feral pigs. However, pigs can become infected with the virus, and caution is recommended. Remember that feral pigs can spread other diseases, and it is best to avoid contact with them—this goes for you and your animals. Feral pigs are best left to the proper authorities to handle, so contact your local animal control office if you need to report a feral pig problem.



Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: JustMe on November 04, 2009, 10:59:09 AM
If we are able to stay away from people with the flu, our pets should be okay.  I know that is easy for me to say since I work at home and DH is retired.  My plan is to just go out for groceries and necessary people/vet appointments.  Avoid doctor's office and reschedule appointments that can be put off without health risks until early 2010. 


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: 3catkidneyfailure on November 04, 2009, 11:06:18 AM
Vaccine objections aside[big aside I understand], if one were vaccinated, then three weeks later, after immunity fully develops, still using
good health precautions, should be okay for those working away from home. My problem is I can't get vaccine to date, just pneumonia and seasonal flu. Just thoughts from one consumer and open to all discussions.


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: JustMe on November 04, 2009, 11:09:09 AM
My age group in my state will not be offered the vaccine anyway....that is per governor the last I read.  May be offered months down the road next year.  So, that takes the decision out of my hands.


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: bug on November 04, 2009, 12:20:56 PM
That really sucks. My age group hasn't been offered the vaccine yet as they are still concentrating on the most vulnerable population. Even if I got the vaccine, dh believes in natural selection and won't be getting it, so cats wouldn't be safe anyway. Fortunately, he pretty much lives downstairs and doesn't so much with the cats.

ETA: I was just digging around the Internet on influenza in cats, other strains that have affected them and H5N1 (avian influenza) is one of the strains that has killed cats in 2006. The WHO has a little article that suggests the vector for the H5N1 was raw poultry fed to cats.

http://www.who.int/csr/don/2006_02_28a/en/index.html

Now I know that you can't get H1N1 from pork, and I don't think anyone is feeding their cats raw pork, but I wonder if it would be possible for them to get it from H1N1 infected poultry. A news segment I saw said that H1N1 doesn't live in muscle tissue, so I wonder if the WHO meant LIVE, raw poultry.


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: 3catkidneyfailure on November 04, 2009, 01:13:05 PM
Some limited info (of unknown source and quality) for dog and horse owners from a Reuters article on this:

http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSTRE5A33ZG20091104
"Dogs and horses also can catch various influenza strains, although none have so far been diagnosed with H1N1."


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: catbird on November 04, 2009, 03:02:35 PM
We appear to have two threads going on related to H1N1 being confirmed in a cat.  I am going to merge the two together; the thread will be in "Pet News."


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: Sandi K on November 04, 2009, 04:18:03 PM
So its because people are using the nasal vaccine that its jumping to cats?  These people with the cat had the actual flu I thought and its what transferred..not the vaccine..my DH did say he worries about that because when it jumps to another species it can then form into a different virus...anyhow I's confoosed as usual...


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: 3catkidneyfailure on November 04, 2009, 04:19:29 PM
Thanks for the merge! There's a lot more to come here I'm sure.

I believe the theory is the nasal vaccine is made up of live flu virus that gives you a case of what you're protecting against to develop
immunity. The shot vaccine is done with a dead virus which your body then produces antibodies for. Have I got that right, virus
people? The live virus would therefore be capable of mutating faster?  And jumping to another specifies, like a cat? Is that a rough idea of the theory? Or am I just revealing my virus and vaccine ignorance?

http://pandemicinformationnews.blogspot.com/
(flu virus vaccines discussed)


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: Mandycat on November 04, 2009, 05:22:12 PM
The cat that got the H1N1 was exposed to its owners who had the H1N1. No mention of being exposed to anyone who got a nasal vaccine.  I think it is a stretch to try to connect the two.  The seasonal flu vaccine has been available in the nasal form for a few years now and I don't recall any reports of it causing the flu in other species.  The nasal flu vaccines are a MODIFIED live virus, which means that it has been stripped of its ability to infect, but not of its ability to replicate just enough to confer immunity. Immune-compromised persons COULD possibly experience flu-like symptoms from exposure to someone who has gotten a nasal vaccine. But, they do not get a full-fledged case of the flu.  A side effect from the nasal vaccine for the person getting it is also the possibility of flu-like symptoms, but they do not get the flu itself. 


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: Spartycats on November 05, 2009, 06:39:51 AM
VIN's report:

http://news.vin.com/VINNews.aspx?articleId=14258 (http://news.vin.com/VINNews.aspx?articleId=14258)


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: bug on November 05, 2009, 07:29:24 AM
I think in this case, as in most cases of viral illness, you would require a threshold exposure of the virus in order to become infected. There are so many variables with this cat infection, it's difficult to figure out why it jumped. They may have been susceptible all along, but the last time a similar H1N1 came around, cats weren't pets like they are today. They spent a lot more time outdoors and I don't think their owners had as much interaction with them as they do now. It may also be that because there were three individuals stricken with the virus in this family that the viral load just couldn't be overcome by the cat. That may be why we're not seeing more of this, especially from this last round in the spring.

Also, from the experience with the Spanish flu, that H1N1 virus was more virulent and destructive in younger individuals and that may be the case with the family of this cat. We also don't know if the cat had any underlying medical issues such as other immunocompromising viruses. I would imagine there are people that will be looking into this -- poor cat might become and unwitting celebrity. The good news is that it recovered, so we do know it can be overcome. Did it need any medications? We don't know from the story what the treatment for it was -- maybe nothing.


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: 3catkidneyfailure on November 05, 2009, 09:03:03 AM
http://consults.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/05/can-pets-get-swine-flu/?scp=2&sq=swine%20flu&st=cse

November 5, 2009, 8:39 am
Can Pets Get Swine Flu?
By The New York Times
 
... People with flulike symptoms can protect their pets with the same precautions used to minimize transmission of virus between humans. Such measures include washing hands thoroughly, particularly before handling the pet or preparing food; covering coughs and sneezes; and avoiding close contact with the pet during the course of illness.
It is common for pets to share beds and other furniture with humans, and this should be avoided during an illness. ...

... There is no evidence to date that any human has been infected with influenza by a pet, or of infection being transmitted from one cat to another, from a dog to a cat, or vice versa.



http://health.usnews.com/articles/health/healthday/2009/11/04/rest-easy-when-it-comes-to-swine-flu-your-pet-is.html

Rest Easy. When It Comes to Swine Flu, Your Pet Is Safe
Recent reports of H1N1 in a cat or pigs are likely very rare, experts say
Posted November 4, 2009




Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: 3catkidneyfailure on November 05, 2009, 01:20:45 PM
http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/05/the-cat-who-got-swine-flu/

... The unusual case has riveted pet owners and health officials. Companion animals have been known to contract flu from other species — canine influenza (H3N8) originated in horses, and cats contract avian influenza (H5N1) from eating birds. But this appears to be the first time a cat has contracted influenza from a human. Two pet ferrets, one in Oregon and one in Nebraska, have also tested positive for H1N1, and the virus has also been transmitted between humans and pigs.

The cat was treated at the College of Veterinary Medicine at Iowa State University by veterinarians Dr. Brett A. Sponseller and Dr. Albert Jergens. Although the family has asked not to be identified, Drs. Sponseller and Jergens have disclosed additional details about the case.

The cat, a 16-pound orange tabby, began acting lethargic and lost his appetite on Oct. 27. He is the only pet in the house and never goes outside. The cat, described as “large framed but not chubby,” stopped eating and drinking and stopped cleaning himself. He also rested by hunching on all four feet, rather than sprawling out on his side as usual, a sign of respiratory discomfort. A few days earlier, two out of three family members in the home had developed flu-like symptoms, with fever and body aches. ...

... Although cats can contract flu from birds, this cat never left the house and was never exposed to any other pet. At that point, it occurred to the veterinarians that since the family members had been recently ill, they might be seeing a case of flu transmitted from human to cat. The school is the site of a major diagnostic lab, so the veterinarians were able to test the cat and quickly confirm he had H1N1, a finding that was later confirmed by additional testing by the U.S. Department of Agriculture.

Additional testing is being conducted to confirm that the family members had H1N1 and to try to verify that the flu was transmitted from human to cat. However, the circumstantial evidence is strong that the cat was infected by its owners and not the other way around. “This cat does not go outside,” Dr. Sponseller said. “Whatever came in, came to the cat.”

Dr. Sponseller says the cat is about 85 percent recovered. He was given fluids for dehydration and put on antibiotics to prevent a secondary bacterial infection. “He’s eating well, moving around well, and he’s back in his window watching the squirrels outside,” he said.





Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: Mandycat on November 05, 2009, 10:02:43 PM
From the Abstract mentioned above on a study of transmission of the seasonal flu virus after children received the FluMist or a placebo:

                http://journals.lww.com/pidj/Abstract/2006/07000/A_Randomized,_Double_Blind_Study_of_the_Safety,.5.aspx

     "Results: Eighty percent of 98 vaccine recipients shed at least one vaccine strain. No clinically significant differences in solicited adverse events attributable to vaccine occurred; safety profiles were similar in both groups. Vaccine virus isolates retained their phenotypic characteristics (cold adaptation and temperature sensitivity) and did not revert at nucleotides known to confer an attenuating phenotype. There was one confirmed transmission of a vaccine strain to a single placebo recipient. According to the Reed-Frost model, the calculated probability of transmission to a child after contact with a single vaccinated child was 0.58% (95% confidence interval, 0-1.7%). There was no increased reactogenicity or other safety concerns in the recipient child.

Conclusions: Young children in a day care setting had a high rate of shedding and a low rate of transmission. No clinically significant illness occurred among children who received vaccine or placebo or in the child to whom the vaccine virus was transmitted."

     IMO, this study did not show that the FluMist vaccine allowed the flu virus to be transmitted and cause illness from the flu.  One child in the study showed evidence of transmission of one of the viruses in the vaccine on a nasal swab sample, but, according to the conclusion, this child, as well as the children receiving the vaccine or placebo, did not show any clinical signs of illness.  Rather than show any problem with the FluMist causing a spread of the flu, I think it shows the safety of the vaccine in regard to anyone becoming ill from contact with someone who has been vaccinated with it.
     In the case of the cat, it is most likely that it acquired the virus from its sick owners than the vaccine having any part in the equation.  The fact that the vaccine was introduced in Iowa in October is not relevant.  It was introduced in just about all the states around the same time so that was not a unique happening.  It will be interesting to see if any more information comes out about this case, but I seriously doubt the vaccine will be implicated in any way.


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: 3catkidneyfailure on November 06, 2009, 10:58:37 AM
http://www.wormsandgermsblog.com/2009/11/articles/animals/cats/how-to-diagnosis-influenza-in-pets/

How to "diagnose" influenza in pets (University of Guelph)

The presence of someone in the household with influenza should get you thinking about flu in a sick pet, but it is far from diagnostic. Many, many people have influenza, but very few pets do. There are many other diseases that can produce signs similar to influenza in pets. The health of people in the household is an important thing to know, but we can't jump to conclusions based on the household history alone.

Laboratory testing is required for the diagnosis of influenza, and there are a few options:

•PCR testing of nasopharyngeal (throat) or nasal swabs, or fluid collected from the trachea: This molecular test detects influenza virus RNA. This is the fastest test and it is most sensitive when samples are taken early in disease.
•Serology: This involves testing blood for antibodies against influenza. Two samples are taken 10-14 days apart. If the antibody level rises 4-fold or greater, that is indicative of influenza infection. This is considered the most reliable method of diagnosis but takes time.
•Virus isolation from nasopharyngeal or nasal swabs, or tracheal fluid: Samples are inoculated into eggs to try to grow the virus. This can take quite a while and isolation of the virus can be difficult.


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: 3catkidneyfailure on November 06, 2009, 05:25:54 PM
Poco, I think that assumption, that cats have been catching H1N1 for some time, is probably right. I have had numerous vets
who swear that sick owners come in often with sick cats. Heard that a lot. It's just no one tests to see if owner and pet have
the same disease. And there was a comment like that in one of the things I posted, that vet offices across country thought cats
had been coming in for some time this year with respiratory problems.


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: 3catkidneyfailure on November 07, 2009, 06:08:02 AM
http://www.news.colostate.edu/release.aspx?id=4899

... CSU’s Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory is testing pets for H1N1 as part of the U.S. Department of Agriculture’s National Animal Health Laboratory Network. This network is using a test initially developed to test pigs for H1N1. It was approved this week for testing companion animals. Tests are performed on nasal or mouth swabs. Swabs should be obtained by a veterinarian and submitted to the lab for results.



Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: niman on November 08, 2009, 06:30:54 AM
The cat that got the H1N1 was exposed to its owners who had the H1N1. No mention of being exposed to anyone who got a nasal vaccine.  I think it is a stretch to try to connect the two.  The seasonal flu vaccine has been available in the nasal form for a few years now and I don't recall any reports of it causing the flu in other species.  The nasal flu vaccines are a MODIFIED live virus, which means that it has been stripped of its ability to infect, but not of its ability to replicate just enough to confer immunity. Immune-compromised persons COULD possibly experience flu-like symptoms from exposure to someone who has gotten a nasal vaccine. But, they do not get a full-fledged case of the flu.  A side effect from the nasal vaccine for the person getting it is also the possibility of flu-like symptoms, but they do not get the flu itself. 
Yes, H1N1 is widespread in humans and by now it is also likely to be widespread in pets.  The virus is quite promiscuous and there was nothing unusal about the cat in Iowa, oter than the access to testing by its owners.


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: 3catkidneyfailure on November 08, 2009, 01:13:25 PM
This virus does not seem right now to be as deadly as once predicted. Personally I'm hoping it stays that way
while science comes to understand it better.


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: lesliek on November 08, 2009, 04:59:08 PM
Welcome Dr Niman !


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: JJ on November 08, 2009, 09:16:36 PM
Nice to have you on the site Dr. Niman, welcome!


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: catwoods on November 08, 2009, 10:31:52 PM
Welcome, Dr. Niman!


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: 3catkidneyfailure on November 09, 2009, 05:21:30 PM
I need a little help with introductions here, please, for those of us unfamiliar with the name. Sounds like someone I should become
familiar with.

Now I'm embarassed, Dr. Niman, for not connecting the name with Poco's post.

I realize information is very sparse, Dr. Niman, but is there any advice you might have for the pet owner, cats first as they have
been diagnosed, but concerning dogs, too? Thank you if there are any comments you'd care to make.


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: 3catkidneyfailure on November 10, 2009, 05:55:11 PM
http://vetmedicine.about.com/od/zoonotic/tp/H1N1news.htm

H1N1 and Animals
News archive for H1N1 stories related to pets, veterinarians and other animals
By Janet Tobiassen Crosby, DVM, About.com
See More About: h1n1 flu influenza virus zoonotic diseases
Stories about the H1N1 virus are in the news daily, and can be overwhelming. This news archive is focused on animal cases of H1N1. According to the CDC, the swine version (influenza type A H1N1) was first isolated from a pig in 1930. To date, The H1N1 cases documented in turkeys, ferrets and a cat have caught the H1N1 virus from humans, not the other way around.  


I especially like the Iowa State care tips in their PDF should you end up with a sick pet with confirmed H1N1, which include washing
everything "impervious" with a 1 to 10 bleach and water solution.


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: 3catkidneyfailure on November 11, 2009, 09:10:22 AM
http://www.stumbleupon.com/s/#1KuLjh/vetmedicine.about.com/b/2009/11/11/three-more-ferrets-infected-with-h1n1-virus.htm/

Three More Ferrets Infected with H1N1 Virus
Wednesday November 11, 2009
The Oregon Veterinary Medical Association (OVMA) has reported that 3 more ferrets have tested positive for the H1N1 virus. The ferrets were part of a household of 9 ferrets, and it is suspected that all may have had the virus.

The ferrets became ill about a week after the human family had an "influenza-like illness." The ferrets did not all become ill at the same time, but when sick, they presented with fevers above 103F (normal for ferrets is 100 to 103°F or 37.7-39.4°C), sneezing, coughing and nasal discharge.

All ferrets and humans have recovered uneventfully. Read OVMA press release

Virus confirmation
According to the AVMA, the H1N1 samples were confirmed as follows: "Nasal discharge samples were collected on Oct 27th and were later reported as positive for Influenza A. Further testing at NVSL confirmed the isolates as pandemic influenza H1N1. All 9 ferrets have recovered well." Read news brief

A total of 4 ferrets have tested positive in Oregon to date, the first ferret H1N1 case was confirmed on 9 October 2009. That ferret recovered as well.


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: JustMe on November 18, 2009, 02:07:57 PM


http://www.avma.org/public_health/influenza/new_virus/default.asp

November 18, 2009
The Oregon state public health veterinarian has reported that a pet cat has died from presumed 2009 H1N1 influenza virus infection. The cat was one of 4 cats in the household and became ill approximately one week after a child in household had a flu-like illness. It developed labored breathing and was presented to a veterinarian on November 4.


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: 3catkidneyfailure on November 18, 2009, 03:11:22 PM
This really is a nightmare I think personally. ty, JustMe.


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: JustMe on November 18, 2009, 03:14:11 PM
I agree, 3Cats.   :'(


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: Janet on November 18, 2009, 03:29:11 PM
That's really something...to have the flu virus transmitted from humans to their pets! Scary...


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: Steve on November 18, 2009, 03:30:35 PM
Yes, H1N1 is widespread in humans and by now it is also likely to be widespread in pets.  The virus is quite promiscuous and there was nothing unusal about the cat in Iowa, oter than the access to testing by its owners.

Need to double check your spelling Doc. Anyway, got some data to back up these assertions?



Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: macush on November 18, 2009, 03:38:56 PM
This will make me decide to get the H1N1 shot -- just on the off chance I could spread it to my cats if I get it.   :-\


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: JustMe on November 18, 2009, 03:47:03 PM
DH and I aren't being offered the swine flu vaccine or regular vaccine due to unavailability in our state and our ages set down by our state.  At least that is what we were told.  So, we have no choice of getting it or not at this time.  Takes the decision out of our hands.  Interestingly, I have 2 chronic medical conditions. 


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: 3catkidneyfailure on November 18, 2009, 04:00:45 PM
My age bracket here in Southwest just offered H1N1 this week for the first time by our health department. With two chronic kidney failure kitties, no doubt what I need to do. I believe I had it this spring but don't know for sure.


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: bug on November 18, 2009, 05:46:52 PM
Funny how we could get our cats tested but not ourselves. My age bracket was just offered it starting today. They're now using non-adjuvanted. I'm still on the fence.


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: alek0 on November 18, 2009, 06:41:55 PM
I am worried about this new development, but I don't think I will be getting the shot anyway. We are all (humans and kitties) in reasonably good health, and both of us rarely catch seasonal flu anyway.  I am following my usual flu prevention rules, regular hand washing, lots of vit. C containing fresh fruit.


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: Spartycats on November 19, 2009, 06:51:38 AM
A few more details:

http://oregonvma.org/news/h1n1 (http://oregonvma.org/news/h1n1)

I'm wondering what happened on Nov. 4 - was the cat sent home?  It says that x-rays revealed "results consistent with pneumonia", but the cat was not admitted and treated until Nov. 5.


"On November 4, 2009, a 10-year-old male cat was brought to Animal Clinic in Lebanon, Oregon with labored breathing. A member of the family had been sick with influenza-like illness approximately one week earlier.

On initial examination, the cat's temperature was 101.7 F. There was no coughing or sneezing and its respiration was rapid and shallow. Radiographs were taken and revealed results consistent with pneumonia.

On November 5, 2009, the cat's respiratory rate worsened. The cat was admitted and treated with oxygen and medication.

On November 7, 2009, the cat died. It was later confirmed that the cat was positive for pandemic H1N1 by Oregon State University Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory."


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: kittylyda on November 19, 2009, 07:44:23 AM
This is very scary.  The vaccine is only being offered in my area to people in certain age and high risk groups right now. I'm not part of those groups.  I have never got a flu shot before but this would be the one I would consider getting because I work with animals.  I do wonder though if humas have been passing regular seasonal flu virus to cats for years.  In the past  I don't think there has been any reason to test. Prior to H1N1,  I can't tell you how many times I have heard from cat parents that they had to take the cat to the vet and what's so weird is that they were just sick with similar syptoms the week before.  My vet said the same thing.


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: Sandi K on November 20, 2009, 01:35:23 PM
Im with you kittylyda, my husband and I talked about it and want to get the H1N1 vaccine largely in part  due to Sophers and her immune-system problems, it could be very bad for her if she got it.  But right now, our Dr office is only giving it to kids up to age 3 and the Fred Meyer pharmacy supply is spoken for.  At this rate, Im afraid we will end up with the flu before we can get the vaccine....


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: catbird on November 20, 2009, 06:16:19 PM
I sure wish I could transfer the dose that's available to me at work to one of you who are trying to protect your kitties!  I believe that I likely already possess immunity to H1N1, and because I have problems with many vaccines, due to the eggs they are grown in, I won't be getting the vaccine unless things get extreme.  (I'd be at higher risk from the vaccine than from the disease.)


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: menusux on December 04, 2009, 01:20:50 PM
http://www.news.colostate.edu/Release/4934

Colorado State University December 4, 2009

FORT COLLINS - "Two cats from different households in Colorado have tested positive for H1N1, according to Colorado State University’s Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory. The felines are expected to recover, but their cases serve as a reminder to pet owners to seek veterinary attention for companion animals that appear to be ill.

"The cats in these two cases were diagnosed with lower respiratory tract infections by Colorado veterinarians. Both cats are currently ill and have been ill for multiple weeks, with one illness beginning on Oct. 2 and the other beginning in early November. Antibiotics do not treat H1N1, but both cats received antibiotics as a precaution against secondary bacterial infections. Neither cat had symptoms that responded to antibiotics.

“"We expect that both cats will recover, but these cases serve as a reminder to pet owners to seek veterinary attention as soon as possible if their pet seems ill. This flu has also been identified in ferrets, exotic cats and birds in the United States, so any companion animal that appears to have the flu should get immediate attention,” said Kristy Pabilonia, a veterinarian and expert on H1N1 testing in animals at CSU. “We are very interested in understanding more about H1N1 in cats and other pets and providing tests to veterinarians who suspect H1N1 in companion animals.”


"Swabs from the cats’ mouth and nose were tested by CSU and additional blood serum confirmation testing from Iowa State University confirmed that they have the pandemic H1N1 strain.

"Veterinarians believe that both of the cats became ill with H1N1 after a person in their household contracted the virus.

"In addition to receiving veterinary care, cats and ferrets with H1N1 should be made comfortable and get plenty of rest, enticing food and fluids.

"The USDA is reporting three other confirmed cases of H1N1 in cats, one each in Oregon, Iowa and Pennsylvania. At least five ferrets have been confirmed to have H1N1, four in Oregon and one in Nebraska.

"Pabilonia said that because this strain of H1N1 is new, information about how it impacts animals is limited. It is possible that any animal may be susceptible to H1N1, but no other cases have been documented in companion animals. To date, there are no reported cases of H1N1 in dogs in the United States. Pet birds have been susceptible to other strains of the flu, but no cases of H1N1 in these animals have been reported.

"People with H1N1 or any flu should be careful when in contact with their pets. Pabilonia recommends that they practice social distancing with pets just as they would with people. People who are ill should wash their hands before handling pets and, if possible, have someone who is well feed and care for pets. Just like people, pets are exposed to H1N1 through aerosols -- fluids released when someone sneezes, coughs or touches their face and then a surface.

"Because there have only been a few cases of H1N1 flu in pets, veterinarians have limited information about the symptoms. Pets with H1N1 may behave as if they aren’t feeling well, acting lethargic and may appear to have a respiratory illness. If a pet seems ill, it should be taken to a veterinarian for an exam as soon as possible and the veterinarian should be alerted that the pet has been exposed to someone with influenza.

"CSU’s Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory is testing pets for H1N1 as part of the U.S. Department of Agriculture’s National Animal Health Laboratory Network. The test detects H1N1 influenza virus in animals. Tests are performed on nasal or mouth swabs. Swabs should be obtained by a veterinarian and submitted to the lab for results."


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: BW on December 05, 2009, 09:19:46 AM
Oh my Menusux, that is indeed of concern. I was just sick for over a month, and Esther Elizabeth sleeps with me.  I don't know how I could sequester myself with so many cats to care for, there is no one else do do it.
We do have H1n1 in our town, a couple children were diagnosed with it in my son's step daughter's school.  I don't know what I had, don't go to the doctor.  None of my cats got sick, thankfully.

 


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: wicked fate on December 05, 2009, 03:39:56 PM
It is really scary to see this keeps popping up.  :(


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: 3catkidneyfailure on December 05, 2009, 07:20:46 PM
It's scary for our pets that we can give them this disease. It's even scarier for us if it comes back from them.
I don't ever recall hearing about so widespread a virus jumping across so many species. Overpopulation and crowding
and pollution is doing some very different things I think.


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: kittylyda on December 06, 2009, 06:58:12 AM
This concerns me too.  It's very difficult to limit contact with your cats.  I'm glad to see that in most cases the cats are recovering.


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: 3catkidneyfailure on December 08, 2009, 04:44:24 PM
http://www.avma.org/public_health/influenza/new_virus/default.asp

December 8, 2009
The Oregon state public health veterinarian has confirmed that another cat has died from 2009 H1N1 influenza. On November 24, an 8 year-old spayed female cat presented as an emergency to a veterinary clinic, showing signs of severe weakness and pain. According to the owner, the cat had a history of allergies and sneezing with nasal discharge and chronic sinusitis. The cat was hypothermic and dehydrated, very weak, and had nasal discharge and blue-tinged mucous membranes. Radiographs (x-rays) showed severe pneumonia and fluid accumulation in the cat's chest. A nasal discharge sample was collected and tested positive for the 2009 H1N1 influenza virus by the Oregon State University Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory. Despite supportive care and treatment with oseltamivir (Tamiflu), the cat died the evening of November 24. The cat's owner had previously been ill with severe respiratory disease and was confirmed to be infected with the 2009 H1N1 influenza virus.


December 8, 2009
France's Director General of Health announced that a cat in France has tested positive for the 2009 H1N1 virus. The cat - a 5 year old, neutered, domestic shorthair cat - developed respiratory illness after 2 children in the household had been ill. The cat recovered in 6 days.
Read the article (in French) on Le Figaro.

(Maybe these flu reports on cats need to be merged?)


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: catbird on December 08, 2009, 05:57:51 PM
I found a total of 3 threads and merged them.  If there are others to merge in, please let me know.

Very scary that some cats are dying. :'(  It appears to be similar to the situation with humans--those with some type of respiratory problems are more likely to encounter difficulty.

I have a cat with asthma (Cameo).  Because I have so much trouble with flu shots, I haven't gotten the H1N1 shot.  (I fall into the category of "those who have had a past adverse reaction.")  There is also the possibility that I may possess some immunity to H1N1 because of past exposure to "swine flu" in the 1970s, according to some things I have read.  It's hard to decide what is the lower risk.  Sure wish they had the H1N1 vaccine for cats!

Cameo is due for a routine vet visit soon, but to avoid exposing her to other people and possible H1N1, I think I'll put that off for awhile.

Has anyone seen anything about the length of time between exposure and coming down with the disease in cats?


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: Sandi K on December 08, 2009, 06:51:02 PM
This is scary....does anyone know the last time there was such a virus that crossed over to cats so easily and even led to deaths?  Also, I wonder about shelters, can people go in and unknowingly infect a cat they might be getting to know for possible adoption and then have that cat in turn affect other cats that it is in playrooms with?


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: 3catkidneyfailure on December 08, 2009, 08:47:50 PM
I don't believe anyone knows very much about this virus. The scientists seem to be having problems with assessing
affects on people, let alone "minor use species" like cats and dogs. (Thread seems strange without Poco, huh?)


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: kittylyda on December 09, 2009, 07:32:27 AM
I think it's going to be important to get our cats to the vet immediately if they develop any signs of respiratory illness.


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: 3catkidneyfailure on December 09, 2009, 07:57:00 AM
http://www.kivitv.com/Global/story.asp?S=11635042&nav=menu536_8_1

Cat flu truths and myths

good rundown on symptoms


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: kittylyda on December 10, 2009, 01:54:42 PM
AVMA just posted that a cat in Pennsylvania has died, test positive for H1N1.

http://www.avma.org/public_health/influenza/new_virus/default.asp

December 10, 2009
We have been informed that a cat in Pennsylvania died from 2009 H1N1 influenza. The cat, a 12 year old domestic shorthair, developed respiratory illness on November 3, 2009 after four family members in the household were ill with flu-like symptoms. The signs of illness observed in the cat included lethargy, loss of appetite and difficulty breathing. Radiographs (x-rays) taken by the examining veterinarian revealed pneumonia. The cat was treated with antibiotics, but the pneumonia worsened. The cat died on November 6, 2009. Nasal swabs collected on November 6 were negative for the 2009 H1N1 flu virus, but samples collected at necropsy tested positive for the virus on November 14. The NVSL conducted additional testing and confirmed the presence of 2009 H1N1 influenza on November 27, 2009.



Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: Spartycats on December 15, 2009, 09:43:01 AM
IDEXX now has test available

http://www.idexx.com/view/xhtml/en_us/corporate/news/press-releases/20091208pr.jsf (http://www.idexx.com/view/xhtml/en_us/corporate/news/press-releases/20091208pr.jsf)



Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: catbird on December 15, 2009, 11:14:27 AM
I'm glad to hear of this test!  72 hours is a little long to wait; pretty much too late for Tamiflu (assuming they make Tamiflu for cats and dogs?)  But I imagine in many cases, the results would be returned sooner, which is a very good thing.


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: kittylyda on December 22, 2009, 07:41:01 AM


http://www.avma.org/public_health/influenza/new_virus/default.asp

December 21, 2009

IDEXX Laboratories has confirmed 2009 H1N1 influenza virus in a dog in Bedford Hills, New York. A 13-year old dog became ill after its owner was ill with confirmed 2009 H1N1 influenza. The dog was lethargic, coughing, not eating, and had a fever. Radiographs (x-rays) showed evidence of pneumonia. The dog was treated with intravenous fluids, antibiotics, nebulization and other supportive care, and was discharged from the hospital after 48 hours of care. It is currently recovering. Tests submitted to IDEXX Laboratories were negative for canine influenza (H3N8) but positive for 2009 H1N1 influenza. The results were confirmed by the Iowa State Laboratory. Read the press release and the case notes.



Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: 3catkidneyfailure on December 22, 2009, 09:22:01 PM
http://www.idexx.com/view/xhtml/en_us/smallanimal/education/reference-library/case-studies/h1n1case-study.jsf?SSOTOKEN=0

H1N1 Influenza Virus Infection
13-year-old neutered male mixed-breed dog
 
History and Clinical Presentation
The 13-year-old neutered male mixed-breed dog was taken in on emergency to the Katonah Bedford Veterinary Center in Bedford Hills, New York, on Sunday, December 13, 2009. Two days prior, he was seen by his regular veterinarian after several days of not feeling well. The patient was placed on antibiotics and anti-inflammatories with no response. On presentation to the emergency veterinarian, the dog had dry cough, was reported to be lethargic and not eating; he was also febrile with a temperature of 103.6°F. The owner reported that he himself had tested positive earlier in the week for the H1N1 influenza virus.

 
Diagnostic Testing
The veterinarian informed the owner that there was an H1N1 influenza virus test available through IDEXX Reference Laboratories. The owner agreed to have the test run.

Thoracic radiographs were taken and revealed evidence of pneumonia with consolidation of the right cranial and middle lung lobes and prominent air bronchograms.

A tracheal wash was performed and submitted for culture and sensitivity and cytology.

 
Treatment
The dog was hospitalized, placed on intravenous fluids and antibiotics.

In addition, the dog received saline nebulization and coupage four times daily.

The dog improved with treatment and was released after 48 hours of hospitalization and supportive care...


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: 3catkidneyfailure on December 23, 2009, 09:26:34 AM
Think this is all pretty much speculation at this point and I'm not sure it applies to people, let alone pets:

http://www.healthzone.ca/health/newsfeatures/swineflu/article/741542--experts-say-h1n1-could-have-a-silver-lining-if-it-knocks-out-other-viruses

Experts say H1N1 could have a silver lining if it knocks out other viruses


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: kittylyda on December 28, 2009, 02:17:54 PM



http://www.avma.org/public_health/influenza/new_virus/default.asp

December 28, 2009
The County of Los Angeles Department of Public Health and Pico Boulevard Pet Hospital have reported a 2009 H1N1-infected cat in southern California. An 8-year old, female domestic shorthaired cat developed clinical signs of respiratory disease after its owner was ill with confirmed 2009 H1N1 influenza infection. According to the owner, the cat had spent a lot of time on the owner's lap. The owner reported that the cat was sneezing and had a nasal discharge and occasional cough, but the cat was normal when examined by the veterinarian. Laboratory testing revealed 2009 H1N1 influenza infection as well as Mycoplasma felis infection. (Mycoplasma felis is a type of bacteria that can cause conjunctivitis, respiratory disease and polyarthritis [arthritis in more than one joint]). The cat is recovering from its illness.



Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: 3catkidneyfailure on December 28, 2009, 02:59:24 PM
Well, I'd say it's now coast-to-coast. 2009, the year we all learned we can give flu to our pets. Kind of sad that
disease is mutating so fast, but a good thing to know next August when flu vaccine comes out. Not just for protecting
human families any more, is it?


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: JJ on December 28, 2009, 05:53:46 PM
This is all so strange to me all of a sudden the pets are becoming 'sick' from the owners? Where is previous history in years past where this has happened? Would anyone have any links to verify this that, they would be nice enough to post.


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: kittylyda on December 29, 2009, 07:23:11 AM
This is all so strange to me all of a sudden the pets are becoming 'sick' from the owners? Where is previous history in years past where this has happened? Would anyone have any links to verify this that, they would be nice enough to post.

I'm not sure, but my guess would be that there have been instances in the past where people past along flu to cats/pets.  Maybe before now no one thought to test for it? Or we didn't have the ability to test for it.  I have heard people at the vet say it's so weird that their cat is sick because just a week ago they had a similar illness.  I have no proof of any of this, I'm just guessing.


Title: Re: H1N1 cases in cats and other pets
Post by: JJ on December 29, 2009, 06:34:20 PM
Guestimating is alright too. Anyone else want to contribute with facts and web sites containing those facts, please, by all means, your info is most welcome.