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Title: Kibble Addicts
Post by: stickyicky on April 27, 2008, 05:09:05 PM
Ok well i have 3 cats. about 1 year old. Ive been noticing that they are always eating their kibble. they arent over weight at all. 2 of them i would like to gain weight actually.  we average about 2 cans of food a day with the kibble out at all times for the 3 of them. i wish i could get them to eat more cans say 3 a day between the 3 of them instead of the kibble but ive thrown away cans that stood out for too long. last night i put the kibble away with the aim of letting them get an appetite so i could transfer them to natures variety raw but they wont eat it. should i just let them eat what they like to eat and not worry? should i just feed them more canned and leave the kibble out only at night when im sleeping?  I have natures variety prarie in one room for them, and nutro kitten formula and merrick before grain chicken out in another room. so they do have a variety to choose from and they seem to enjoy it because i see them eating different ones at different times. anyone have any advice?(ps the only time we encoutered loose bowls was with EVO. i had to give away a huge bag i ordered online)


Title: Re: Kibble Addicts
Post by: Laurie on April 27, 2008, 06:05:09 PM
sticky, Many believe that it is best to not let your cats free feed all day. But rather to feed them two - three times per day.  If you would like your cats to eat more of the canned food then I would definitely put away the kibble and only feed it occassionally. Unless your kitties have eaten raw previously they may need to be slowly transitioned to the raw as most cats do not take to it right away. Also please be aware that canned food and ESPECIALLY raw food that is left out for more than a short period of time will spoil. 


Title: Re: Kibble Addicts
Post by: stickyicky on April 27, 2008, 10:29:33 PM
thats the dissapointing thing. i defrosted like 1lb of raw for them and they wouldnt touch any this morning and tonight. i had to throw away good food because it was out for 30 mins. i think i might just have to buy sirloin for the family and the cats and i will give them more quality meats that way.


Title: Re: Kibble Addicts
Post by: Laurie on April 28, 2008, 04:53:00 AM
thats the dissapointing thing. i defrosted like 1lb of raw for them and they wouldnt touch any this morning and tonight. i had to throw away good food because it was out for 30 mins. i think i might just have to buy sirloin for the family and the cats and i will give them more quality meats that way.
sticky, If your cats have not previously eaten raw, they must be slowly transitioned to it. You can do this by adding a tiny amount, about the size of a pea, mixed into their wet food. Only put out as much wet food that you know will be eaten immediately. Then each day slowly increase the amount of raw and decrease the amount of canned untill they will finally eat the raw by itself.


Title: Re: Kibble Addicts
Post by: stickyicky on April 28, 2008, 09:13:55 PM
thanks for the tips laurie. my cats are hillarious, i cooked them some sirloin tonight and they werent even excited about that!!! i know it was some good meat because i had a steak sandwich from the same filets.  I noticed they eat the bowl where i tore it into small pieces with my hands. i think i would have better luck buying a food [processor and using that. i might be getting 2 new kittens so ill save the raw for them and i can start young with them.


Title: Re: Kibble Addicts
Post by: stickyicky on April 30, 2008, 05:05:18 PM
Well i took away their kibble last night around 7 pm that means its been 24 hours without kibble. and they only ate a little bit of the natures variety rabbit instinct i put out for them.  I also had some weruva on the cat wok and natures variety instinct chicken canned out. those 2 werent even touched. they only ate a little bit of rabbit.  I threw out the other stuff and i just tried a little bit of natures variety instinct beef, weruva green eggs and chicken and weruva asian fusion. all 3 have been turned down by one cat that was up from her daily nap.  is she holding out until i put out kibble?? shouldnt she be hungry if she hasnt really had too much to eat in 24 hours??? im thinking these cats are playing a game with me. either give us our dry kibble or we wont eat.....it really seems that way.


Title: Re: Kibble Addicts
Post by: kaffe on April 30, 2008, 08:21:03 PM
Stickyicky - Just a few suggestions if I may:

1.  Please don't allow any of your cats to go without food more then 24 hrs.  I would reduce that to 12hrs... cats cannnot turn off certain liver enzymes even on fasting.  They need to eat.
Fasting a cat in the hopes that he will be so hungry to eat anything may work on some cats, but not on some... so, the fasting tactic may be counter-productive.  It didn't work when I was transitioning my cats to raw.

2.  I can see how much you love ans spoil your kitties, but I think you are offering TOO much variety foodwise at any given time.  I mean, you talk about leaving one type of food out in one room and another in the othr room and a third somewhere else.  This practice will make ofr extemely finicky, choosy eaters and food nibblers - not a problem if you have a lot of resources to indulge a ct, but could be a very big problem when the cat gets sick and needs to be on a special diet.  So, try not to cultivate the natural finickiness of our feline freinds.

3.  Unlike humans who often enjoy novelty in foods, cats are worshippers of the "known" and the "routine."  Most cats will not readily accept a new food like raw especially if they have been used to dry food.  The taste, the texture and the scent are so different.  Cats instinctively avoid ingesting the unknown in case it is poison.  So, what you need to do when introsucing something new to the diet is exactly what Laurie has suggested: a little bit at a time.  Most pet parents who have had kibble addicts have had to transition the cat to wet food first and then to raw (there is the odd cat who will shock you and eat raw the first time it is presented!).  I found mixing the raw with wet food did not work for my cats - they despised the concoton.  What worked for us was: a sprinkling of something "smelly" like bonito flakes or crushed kibble or liver over the raw food.

JUst my suggestions.


Title: Re: Kibble Addicts
Post by: ideheights on August 21, 2008, 10:16:55 PM
This is really interesting for me as a topic; the Cat Bible suggests having cats eat only canned / raw food, and trying to avoid kibble altogether! We've just had our cats for a couple months now; they're 8-year-old brothers, and we have no way of knowing what they were being fed before their months in the shelter.

The clear favorite is bonito flakes. We're mixing that in with kibble so they eat both, though I'm sure they're trying to figure out how to leave the kibble behind.

But canned food? They'll lick it, but not really eat it. The Cat Bible (which, you can see I'm treating as a real Bible!) says that canned food shouldn't be refrigerated, since it's so far removed from what cats would experience in nature.

I've tried mixing in room-temperature canned food (good quality stuff like Science Diet) in with the kibble, but I think I was putting too much in - they woudn't touch any of it!

Maybe I'll try just adding a tiny lil' bit and see how they handle that...


Title: Re: Kibble Addicts
Post by: JustMe on August 22, 2008, 04:22:56 AM
Oh, we've had a lot of discussion on this, ideheights.   ;D ;D ;D  Hence the thread. 

Mine wouldn't eat Science Diet canned either, ever.

I've been truly blessed and have had no problem switching my cats to wet food.  But one day I gave them all a little kibble because the newest cat had been on kibble and they all went crazy for it.  He, too, was converted to all wet in a less than a week.  Maybe it is because I don't free feed?  I never free fed even when they were on kibble.  It's a delicate balancing act.  You can't let them not eat and risk illness.  I think refrigerated food is definitely not appealing to them.  It has to be brought to room temperature either by adding a little warm water to it. 

Two years ago, my cats were all mainly on kibble with occasional canned as a treat. 


Title: Re: Kibble Addicts
Post by: ideheights on September 04, 2008, 10:33:31 PM
Well Butter is now getting used to canned food...

To be honest, though, he's most interested in it when I come home from work and the dishes are empty! Before I give him kibble I give him a lil' dab of canned.

Stan, though, can't even seem to stand the smell of it!

Hmmm...


Title: Re: Kibble Addicts
Post by: Sofia on September 08, 2008, 02:33:22 PM
Having a hard time getting this family off Science Diet Adult dry.  Benji is having problems from bladder stones again and is supposed to be on s/d wet, which of course he hates. 

Set mealtimes of wet only.  No one is showing up to the kitchen anymore.  Instead, the same three - I guess they've been elected spokescats, meow incessantly at 4:00am.  I've kicked them out and shut the bedroom door the last three nights.