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Pet Health (not to be substituted for qualified vet advice) => Veterinary and Medications => Topic started by: IheartRufus on September 29, 2007, 11:59:19 AM

Title: Synotic
Post by: IheartRufus on September 29, 2007, 11:59:19 AM
My vet prescribed Synotic (a corticosteroid combined with DMSO) for Rufus' ear irritation; however, the bottle reads "for otic use in dogs only."  Vet assures me it is fine for use in cats - does anyone have experience with using it on a cat and/or know why it would be labeled for use in dogs only? 
Title: Re: Synotic
Post by: IheartRufus on September 30, 2007, 05:33:14 PM
Thanks for the advice!  This is pretty scary stuff - I recognize the DMSO ingredient because I saw an espisode of "Law & Order-Criminal Intent" just a couple of days ago where the victim was killed by a concoction of DMSO and some kind of opiate stuffed into her swimming gloves. Apparently DMSO is a solvent burly enough to use for stripping wood.  And now I get to pour it into kitty's ears while wearing gloves to protect myself. Yikes...
Title: Re: Synotic
Post by: JJ on September 30, 2007, 07:35:16 PM
What a scary thought - you need to wear gloves yet the kitty gets it full strength with no protection? I would do google search for a holistic or organic alternative. I could not bring myself to put this on my pet if it can strip wood...
Title: Re: Synotic
Post by: JJ on September 30, 2007, 08:06:51 PM
There was a post on here awhile back that stated anything put on the skin is absorbed into the bloodstream in 30 seconds. How many of us wear gloves on a regular basis when handling pet treats, etc? If we need gloves how safe can this stuff be to feed or need to wash our hands right after handling it?
Title: Re: Synotic
Post by: IheartRufus on September 30, 2007, 10:16:21 PM
You know, I have no problem with hauling out the big artillery when the situation warrants (desperate times call for desperate measures) such as with cancer, life-threatening illness, etc.  However, I rolled into the vet this weekend with kitty having a bit of itchy ears (some head shaking, pawing at ears, I'm thinking a touch of yeast perhaps) and I roll out with some heavy duty steroid which is being prescribed off label after the vet finds nothing in his ears and attributes the itchiness to allergies.  Does kitty really need gonzo steroids for allergies?  I respect my vet very much but have the same skepticism that I do with my doctors - though learned and well meaning, they are neither omniscient nor omnipotent.  And they both can sometimes be a little ham-handed with treatment for relatively minor maladies (such as when I was bitten by one of the ferals, went in for a tetanus booster, and ended up on hardcore antibiotics for two weeks).  I'm far more willing to dose up my 150 lb. body on questionably necessary drugs than I am my 15 lb. kitty - which is why I question the necessity of a product such as Synotic...

**note, I will be calling my vet tomorrow with all of these concerns so this could end up being pointless navel-gazing after she says something along the lines of "oh my god I had no idea you were such a freak, please just put some olive oil in your cat's ears and quit calling me."  ;D     
Title: Re: Synotic
Post by: Meowli on October 01, 2007, 03:34:18 AM
I like the olive oil idea better - so won't the cat! Also aloe is soothing, and safe. There is an ear wash under the Dr Goodpet brand - "ear relief". Much safer, and less expensive.
Good luck with this!
Meowli
Title: Re: Synotic
Post by: Laurie on October 01, 2007, 04:00:48 AM
   Iheartrufus, On Only Natural Pets website there are numerous natural products that can be used for ear irritations and/or infections. http://search.onlynaturalpet.com/search.aspx?searchterms=Ear-Care
Title: Re: Synotic
Post by: 5CatMom on October 01, 2007, 07:16:32 AM
Iheartrufus,

How did your vet examine and diagnose kitty's ear problem?

This isn't meant as a criticism of your vet, but did he swab the ear canal and look at it under a microscope?

Just curious 'cause I had Tony (Anthony) to the vet for itchy ears last year.

5CatMom
Title: Re: Synotic
Post by: Barbaram on October 02, 2007, 04:57:50 PM
Just the other month, our one cat whiskers was having a problem.  The first sign was the third eye lid starting to cover her eye.  I took her to the vet, he put her on preds. & thought that would be enough.  By that night she was having trouble walking.  I took her to another one 2 days later, he thought she had a brain tumor because at that point she should hardly stand & her eyes moved from side to side very fast.  A few hours later she couldn't make it to the litter box.  I had to take her.  Then I had a third opinion.  She found a VERY bad ear infection that didn't show right away.  That vet gave me ear salve to use & within a couple of days there was a difference.  The salve was ANIMAX ointment.  No side effects for either of us.  When I took her bad to my first vet, he gave another tube to finish.  You may want to inquire about that salve.  It's really good.  When this first happened I thought we were going to lose her.  She's fine now.  Next she has to get her teeth cleaned.  I was told ear infections in cats are normal, especially in the summer.
Title: Re: Synotic
Post by: JustMe on October 02, 2007, 05:29:06 PM
Barbaram,

I was interested in your post about your cat's ear infection.  One of my cat's, 17-years-old at the time, had dental cleaning and 4 extractions in the spring.  The day following the surgery, he started losing his balance and falling to the side, occasionally circling a little.  Brought him back to vet for followup.  We thought the worst had happened due to his age and preexisting CRF and heart condition and were preparing ourselves for bad news.  Turned out he had a horrible ear infection.  Strange thing was it wasn't evident prior to surgery.  He was on 3 or 4 different ear drops and antibiotics, but it took quite awhile to clear up. 

Makes me wonder if there is a correlation between the ear infection and the dental infection. 

What is up with these ear infections that aren't evident.  My cat's was deep within the ear so you couldnt see it on cursory visual examination.   I guess it would be worthwhile to have a pet's ears really examined well if they start behavior like this.

P.S.  I forgot to say.  It was vertigo, labyrinthitis, like people get that caused the room to be spinning for my cat.  If you've ever had vertigo, you know what I mean.  Very unpleasant sensation.
Title: Re: Synotic
Post by: IheartRufus on October 02, 2007, 06:32:21 PM
Iheartrufus,

How did your vet examine and diagnose kitty's ear problem?

This isn't meant as a criticism of your vet, but did he swab the ear canal and look at it under a microscope?

Just curious 'cause I had Tony (Anthony) to the vet for itchy ears last year.

5CatMom

Actually, she did the full-on otoscope/swab & slide and said there was no overgrowth of yeast or any kind of infection and that his ears were actually very clean -- which is why she diagnosed allergies.   He seems perfectly healthy other than the itchy ears.  I did call the vet and was advised that this vet often recommends Synotic because it's fast & very effective and she's had no problems with it in the past if it's used correctly.  I'm still not 100% convinced but I'm going to start him on it tonight and see how it goes.  She didn't prescribe much - just 1 drop in each ear per day for a week so maybe it won't be too bad.
Title: Re: Synotic
Post by: JJ on October 02, 2007, 07:34:24 PM
I see your point Arabian that some things might be safe for pets and not humans. With all the things coming forth one can never be to careful in checking out every food, drug, etc that is prescribed to feel as safe as possible.
Title: Re: Synotic
Post by: lesliek on October 02, 2007, 07:34:50 PM
I don't know how similar the cats ear/nose/sinus setup is to the human one. But think about how we get ear infections from allergies,sinus & dental problems. Wonder if they get the same thing ?