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Title: What should I do?!?!?!
Post by: alek0 on September 14, 2007, 07:38:23 AM
Sophie swallowed a piece of either cling wrap or aluminum foil. I took some stuff out of the fridge, put it on the counter, turn around to get something else and I noticed she was chewing on something which was making noise like aluminum foil or plastic wrap. I tried to get it out of her mouth but it was too late.

I gave her some hairball remedy to help it pass through and some more canned food in hope she would be more likely to do No. 2 in the morning. Anything else I can do other than monitoring what comes out on the other end? Do I need to bring her in tomorrow or just wait and see if she is active and is eating well and going to the toilet she should be fine, right?

That kitty is so quick to get in trouble. And I feel so bad for not noticing that piece of some wrapping fell on the floor. Please help, should I panic or not? anything else I could do besides hairball remedy to make sure it'll go through smoothly?


Title: Re: What should I do?!?!?!
Post by: EricV on September 14, 2007, 08:14:55 AM
In my personal experience, continue to load her with hairball remedy (not a bad time to overboard), and watch her closely. If she starts acting abnormally, get her to the vet. When one of my cats has done something like this, the hairball treats and paste has always done the trick.

I'll be sure to keep Sophie in my thoughts and prayers. Keep us updated!


Title: Re: What should I do?!?!?!
Post by: lesliek on September 14, 2007, 08:27:44 AM
alecO- You could also add yogurt or a little canned pumpkin to her food.I would watch her & take her in if she's having any problems. Chances are the piece was small & will go thru easily.


Title: Re: What should I do?!?!?!
Post by: JustMe on September 14, 2007, 09:04:54 AM
alek0,

Some of my cats really like grabbing and chewing on plastic wrap or bags, clear adhesive tape.  Most of the time, they vomit the pieces back up later on or they pass it.

Don't beat yourself up.  It happens a lot with my crew.  They grab it so fast, impossible to get it away from them.  Now, if it was a long string or thread, I would take her in to be checked.  I've had that happen before, and the cat passed it.  I know to never pull a string/thread out of kitty's mouth or anus.  Vet loaded her with hairball medicine, just like you are doing.

Like others said, keep an eye on her like you are doing.


Title: Re: What should I do?!?!?!
Post by: alek0 on September 14, 2007, 09:12:31 AM
Thank you! I got canned food chicken breast with pumpkin (pieces of chicken and pieces of pumpkin in chicken broth) so that's what she'll be getting for breakfast and give her some more hairball remedy. I'll be watching her carefully and bring her in if she starts behaving abonormally.

For hairball remedy, how much is OK? I gave her about 2 cm ribbon tonight, and I'll give her some more in the morning is that too much? Or too little?

Sorry for stupid questions, I have very little experience with it, my cats rarely have hairballs.

Once she does No. 2 everything should be fine, right? She seems perfectly OK at the moment, biting my toes to get me to play with her instead of staring at the screen.

It wasn't long string, I think, nothing was sticking out of her mouth and I looked as soon as I heard her chewing on something.


Title: Re: What should I do?!?!?!
Post by: catbird on September 14, 2007, 09:53:47 AM
Don't be too hard on yourself.  I've had this happen too; in fact I have one kitty who is obsessed with doing this sort of thing--she seeks out pieces of fuzz, leaves, etc. to ingest.  The behavior is called pica.  I usually do what has been described above--give hairball remedy or something I know is laxative for her, and monitor carefully for changes in behavior.  (My cats don't get hairballs either and don't normally use hairball remedy; I just give her a little dab.)  So far she has not had serious consequences but has passed the problem item by the next day.  Once she ate a piece of a plastic garbage bag!  It passed, and she was fine.  With a small item I may not see when it passes, but I do check that she has gone and what it looks like.  (EricV, if you are around, I'm "talkin' stool." ;)

Hope everything "comes out" OK!


Title: Re: What should I do?!?!?!
Post by: EricV on September 14, 2007, 09:58:59 AM
(EricV, if you are around, I'm "talkin' stool." ;)

Hope everything "comes out" OK!

Oh yeah! Talkin' Stool.... ;D

Anyway...alek0,
I usually give my cats a bit more than the recommended amount of hairball remedy when something like this happens. I continue for a few days, just in case the object doesn't pass right away.


Title: Re: What should I do?!?!?!
Post by: alek0 on September 14, 2007, 10:07:32 AM
So I give her hairball remedy everyday, feed foods with extra fiber (pumpkin) and monitor No. 2 for a couple of days, if apetite is fine, she goes regularly, (hyper)activity is fine then all should be fine, I hope.

Thank you all again, I'm glad to hear that hairball remedy and careful monitoring should help.


Title: Re: What should I do?!?!?!
Post by: catwoods on September 14, 2007, 10:41:23 AM
I've had a cat swallow a small piece of plastic and pass it on through with the use of hairball remedy too, so I think your kitty should be OK but definitely watch her carefully.


Title: Re: What should I do?!?!?!
Post by: kaffe on September 14, 2007, 12:44:55 PM
Oh dear... cats do that when you turn away even for a second! But you are attacking the problem the right way - givng lots of laxatives' that will help flush out whatever peice Sophie ingested.  Hairball remedy is just harmful over time, but not on short spurts like this.  And pumpkin always worked for me in softening and making kitty "go."  Let us know when Sophie does No. 2, Alek0!  I think she'll be fine if it was just a little peice of foil.   


Title: Re: What should I do?!?!?!
Post by: Petra on September 14, 2007, 06:25:50 PM
I've got one kitty, Punkin, she lovest to chew off little pieces of plastic bags?  She is very fast & sneaky about it too.  Usually I hear the crinkling noise and then she barfs it up.  I think in your case, it must have been a small piece, since she didn't cough or gag & I'm sure she'll pass it through.  Thoughts are with you, doing it all the right way... we are all awaiting poopie results.


Title: Re: What should I do?!?!?!
Post by: kaffe on September 14, 2007, 07:48:23 PM
I think my 9 yr old had a little dietary indescretion too - that, or he has worms.  He pooped this morning and there was a drop of bright red blood on the tip of his last "brick."  Like you Alek0, I'll be watching kitty very closely and see what comes out his rear end tomorrow.  Oh man.... think I should post this on the Scoop on Poop thread.


Title: Re: What should I do?!?!?!
Post by: alek0 on September 14, 2007, 08:19:35 PM
She hasn't gone yet, but has eaten her breakfast and was acting normally when I went to work. Good thing it is saturday, which is 1/2 of a work day here so I'll go home early.

I gave her a bit more hairball remedy this morning, though less than last night since she wasn't cooperating, and she had pumpkin+chicken for breakfast. She is not too keen on that food but I have a supply of those cans for poop problems, and she eats it anyway as long as I sprinkle some freeze dried chicken on top.

Kaffe, good luck with that poop problem. I would add some probiotics or give some yogurt, and see how it goes. Which reminds me,  I suppose I should give some [probiotics too Sophie too but that would be after first 1-2 poops since the incident, since probiotics have opposite effect from the hairball remedy.

Btw, what do you guys think of Vetbasis hairball gel? Ingredients: Canola Oil, Glyceryl Monostearate, Beeswax, Cod Liver Oil, Taurine, Cocoa Butter, natural chicken flavor, carnauba wax, mixed tocopherols.

I've been giving her Petromalt one, but if I need to keep it up for a few days maybe I should switch to this petroleum free thing. Does anyone know does cocoa butter contain any theobromine? Shouldn;t be, but I'm a bit wary of that. Or should I just give her butter in addition to small quantity of Petromalt? She loves butter.

Update: She still hasn't done No. 2. But she is active, she ate her dinner, so hopefully she'll go sometimes this evening. Argh.


Title: Re: What should I do?!?!?!
Post by: alek0 on September 15, 2007, 06:12:47 AM
I gave her some more hairball treatment about 1/2 hours after her dinner and then about an hour later she threw up. No No. 2 yet, and I am freaking out. It is saturday evening here, if no No. 2 by morning I'll bring her in. Wish us luck.

Any more advice? Or should I bring her in tonight? She threw up once, she ate a bit after that.


Title: Re: What should I do?!?!?!
Post by: jenny on September 15, 2007, 07:53:39 AM
Hi.  Does your kitty normally vomit?  Not knowing how much hairball remedy you are giving, perhaps too much caused the vomiting?  I would stick with one kind probably and then give just a little over how much they say.  I use one similar to petromalt.  Cats may only do a bowel movement once in a day.  Is she straining at all or acting odd besides vomiting once?  Is she still eating her normal amount of food?

Good luck! 


Title: Re: What should I do?!?!?!
Post by: Nabiya on September 15, 2007, 07:55:11 AM
Hi Alek0, This is a tough call whether to bring her in to the vet now or not.  Cats can go a couple of days inbetween going no. 2 and it would be considered normal still.  However, I always side on caution so if it were me I would probably go ahead and take her to the ER.  They can take an xray and also feel her bowel to see if she's impacted at all.


Title: Re: What should I do?!?!?!
Post by: catwoods on September 15, 2007, 10:52:59 AM
Hi, AlekO, I think I would take her to the vet now as vomiting can sometimes be a sign of a problem in the bowel. Warmest wishes for you and your kitty.


Title: Re: What should I do?!?!?!
Post by: EricV on September 15, 2007, 12:44:25 PM
I'm praying for your kitty, Alek0. Let us know how she's doing as soon as you get a chance.


Title: Re: What should I do?!?!?!
Post by: kaffe on September 15, 2007, 04:07:51 PM
I'm praying for Sophie, Alek0.


Title: Re: What should I do?!?!?!
Post by: Orange Fuzzball on September 15, 2007, 05:30:54 PM
Sending good thoughts to you and Sophie. Don't beat yourself up, those little buggers get into everything.


Title: Re: What should I do?!?!?!
Post by: alek0 on September 15, 2007, 05:52:32 PM
Sunday morning, she still hasn't gone for No. 2 but she hasn't vomitted again either, so that was probably hairball remedy.  She cleaned up her plate when I gave her another can last night and she cleaned up her plate this morning and had some dry, too. Behavior perfectly normal and she is not straining to go, just not interested to go. I put her on the toilet and she jumps off.

Since there is no more vomitting and in the past she has had occasions when she doesn't go everyday for No.2, I am still waiting to see what happens. If she starts straining and can't go, I am brining her in immediately. If she vomits again, I am bringing her in immediately. Since it is Sunday, it'd have to be animal hospital, not my regular vet (his clinic has others on call 24 hours but it is quite far away, if I need to bring her in I'd bring her in closer, there is one near by with australian staff also). If she doesn't produce No. 2 today but is otherwise behaving normally, I will still call my regular vet to come over on Monday (he does house visits).

Does this sound like a good plan to you? Apart from throwing up yesterday which could be due to hairball remedy, her behavior is perfectly normal, she is eating well and is active, she is now chasing Mitzie around the living room. And she enjoys her belly rubs, which I suppose she wouldn;t if there was any blockage. But I'll just keep watching her carefully and vet is a must if she doesn't go today. One day of No. 2 doesn't seem unusual for her, but two would definitely be too much.


Title: Re: What should I do?!?!?!
Post by: kaffe on September 15, 2007, 06:59:04 PM
Sounds to me like she's OK, Alek0.  Cats that feel they have something the matter in the belly area will usually sit meat-loaf fashion for looooooong periods of time and refuse to play and eat.  Have you given her mashed pumpkin yet? There's canned pumpkin one can buy, but make sure its 100% pumpkin.  Your plan is a good plan becuase cats will sometimes not poop for 2 days in a row and still have normal poop.  Don't you just hate waiting?  Beleive me, I feel your anxiety.  You and Sophie are in my prayers.  But I do beleive Sophie will excrete the dang thing. 


Title: Re: What should I do?!?!?!
Post by: alek0 on September 15, 2007, 07:16:07 PM
Yaaayyyyy !!!!! Poop!!! Five pieces of it, didn't see any foil in it, but could have been small. I'll still watch her, but hopefully the crisis is over.

Btw, I give her chicken+pumpkin commercial cat food, applaws or almo nature, the ingredients are chicken (50%), pumpkin (24%), 1% rice, 25% cooking water. It is real pieces of chicken (hormone free, organic) and real pieces of pumpkin, with a couple of grains of rice (whole pieces, not flour). Rather pricey food, but worth it. Do you have it in US? Both brands are from UK/EU, and they are good to have on hand for stomach upsets. I use other flavors (75% meat or fish) for regular feeding in rotation with japanese brands, but I always have some of these if extra fiber is needed.



Title: Re: What should I do?!?!?!
Post by: jenny on September 15, 2007, 07:48:02 PM
Hi Alek.  Glad to hear good news.  I don't think we have those foods here in the U.S. 


Title: Re: What should I do?!?!?!
Post by: kaffe on September 16, 2007, 01:36:37 AM
Excellent!!!! Whewwww... The poopies at least ensure that Sophie is not blocked.  And maybe the foil was really very small... but I am soooo glad Sophie is OK! 

That chicken + pumpkin canned food sounds really good... I have never seen it in the pet food stores I've been to here.  Its great that you can get British and European brands there in Hong Kong. 



Title: Re: What should I do?!?!?!
Post by: EricV on September 16, 2007, 04:35:56 AM
Great to hear! Let us know how she's doing today.