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Pet Health (not to be substituted for qualified vet advice) => Help With My Sick Pet => Topic started by: alek0 on June 17, 2019, 05:01:51 PM

Title: weird problem with Leo and Sophie
Post by: alek0 on June 17, 2019, 05:01:51 PM
When we came back from a short trip Friday night, I noticed Sophie's neck was all wet, but I thought it was water since Leo does have a history of dunking other cats in the fountain when trying to drink. She also had some soft poo and I was monitoring her for that. The issue with wet fur under the neck persisted for a day or two, she is fine now except poo is still soft but improving (i.e. getting firmer).

Then on sunday I noticed Leo was wet but I assumed he got wet in the bathroom or playing with the fountain since he is crazy about water and loves to play with water and also he likes to sleep in the sink. But last night when I came from work I saw him drooling and it seems the wet fur issue is all from drool! He also had soft poo so we went to emergency last night and he got metronidazole and also eye drops since one eye is a bit squinty and seems irritated. Vet couldn't find anything wrong with him, so the plan is antibiotics first and if improved then fine if not blood test, ultrasound etc. He seems better this morning and he has been eating normally he just seems to be a bit less hyper than usual (the pet sitter said he was quiet on thursday).

Any ideas what might be causing this? I suspect freeze-dried food since some of the pieces in the bag looked darker and softer than usual (pet sitter threw away those and only put normal looking pieces in the feeder). I am suspending freeze-dried for a couple of days until poo gets back to normal and then I will open new bags and try to introduce it again. Sophie and Leo seem to eat most of the freeze dried, Max eats some but considerably less, and Leo and Sophie seem to be only two affected by this weird thing.

Title: Re: weird problem with Leo and Sophie
Post by: August on June 18, 2019, 01:14:09 AM
Hey there,

My first thought was that they may have gotten hold of a beetle and gotten snipped in the mouth.

Coincidentally, Sunday has been drooling some in the last few weeks but nothing else seems off with her so I've just let her be.

If you are feeding the freeze-dried as is (dry), what with the heat now in Asia, could that be an issue?  We've been eating all freeze-dried over here (with items I believe we bought at the same store?) and have never had the drooling issue.  But we do eat ours rehydrated so I don't know if that would make a difference.

Sending good vibes to you guys!

Title: Re: weird problem with Leo and Sophie
Post by: catwoods on June 18, 2019, 12:15:00 PM
I don't have any idea what is causing this but wanted to send hopes that all will be resolved soon. It's good that they are getting better.

Title: Re: weird problem with Leo and Sophie
Post by: alek0 on June 18, 2019, 08:02:57 PM
Leo seems completely back to normal. Both him and Sophie keep complaining about lack of freeze dried, I will open a new bag tomorrow, fingers crossed for no further problems.

Title: Re: weird problem with Leo and Sophie
Post by: NedF on June 19, 2019, 09:21:11 AM
Glad that Leo is feeling better. That is weird that only those two were drooling.

Title: Re: weird problem with Leo and Sophie
Post by: August on June 19, 2019, 09:52:16 PM
I have another theory - bone fragments punctured their gums?  Some of those freeze-dried formulas don't use as fine a grinder as I would like.  I actually have to sift mine before adding water.  Sometimes the bone fragments are very sharp and fairly large (as far as I'm concerned).

Title: Re: weird problem with Leo and Sophie
Post by: alek0 on June 21, 2019, 01:51:45 AM
Hmmm, not sure, I am breaking it up into really tiny fragments. I discussed the Primal rabbit with a friend who said he is no longer feeding it because it has become very tough to chew.

It is quite strange, bags with the same lot number smell different when you open them. The bag I opened day before yesterday appears normal, in future I'll just throw away any suspicious ones upon visual and olfactory inspection. I suspect the warehouse where they keep it is probably too hot and humid now and some bags just go off. I've ordered some new foods from another shop and different manufacturers - Stella&chewy, Northwest Naurals and Smack (canadian cat food), hope those work out OK and I can feed some of those until we get a new shipment of Primal in and lot numbers change.

Vet came this morning and he can;t see any problems and has no clue what caused it. All the cleaning supplies in the house are pet-friendly organic stuff, and there is nothing new or different except I noticed difference with the food.

Title: Re: weird problem with Leo and Sophie
Post by: lesliek on June 23, 2019, 05:26:14 AM
It makes me wonder about insecticides used in the warehouse too .

Title: Re: weird problem with Leo and Sophie
Post by: alek0 on June 23, 2019, 07:03:03 PM
They are back to normal now, current bag of food seems fine. I have introduced Smack air dried in combination with Rabbit Primal and so-far so good - even though it is quite hard so I am breaking it up into really tiny pieces they seem to really like the crunchiness. No stomach upsets, ingredients look good. I might get a food processor for breaking up this one though, it is a real pain to break it by hand it is very, very crunchy. There was one a bit bigger piece in the bowl by accident and I found it on my pillow next morning, I guess Leo wanted to share ;) Though he probably did not expect that Sophie would eat it instead. Only fair to offer to share if he demands to share my breakfast. This morning he sampled smoked tuna and yogurt (he would have eaten all of the tuna if I let him, lol). I have to defend my coffee cup from him though, since that is not good for him  :D No idea why he likes it, I could understand ti if it was with cream but I put hazelnut milk in it and cats are not normally interested in hazelnuts...

But this incident with drooling and soft poo is just very, very strange. I've had freeze dried food which looked and smelled different before, but I never experienced this kind of a weird problem, usually if the food is off it would just be diarrhoea. And we do not use any insecticide at home, and are very careful with cleaning products (all natural and pet friendly).

Title: Re: weird problem with Leo and Sophie
Post by: catmom5 on June 24, 2019, 12:15:55 PM
Guess it could be one of several of the things you've mentioned. Just happy that they are both better now and you don't have a repeat.