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Title: Pee Pee and more Pee
Post by: ranger on May 28, 2018, 01:43:14 PM
I went to my high school reunion and was gone for a week. This is the first time I have left the boys and I was worried. Sam peed on the floor before I left but I assumed he was feeling the stress of me being stressed. Then the cat sitter said he peed on the notebook I left on the kitchen table and she put it in a paper bag and hung it on the door. She told me he peed again. So I get home late Wednesday and I thought all was well until I found more pee in the kitchen and noticed he was not peeing in the box as much as usual. Crappy holiday weekend I didn't want to go to the er unless necessary so then today I found pee in the toybox (just a box) so I washed or threw put all the toys. I had them drying on a towel on top of the cage and he went up and peed on the towel. Just now I see he peed on the kitchen floor again (different spot).

I will be calling the vet first thing and taking him in. I honestly thought he was ok because he was doing zoomies. Maybe we should have gone to er I mean still not too late to go. The cat sitter was not good Sammy actually hissed and growled at her when he saw her (she picked me up at station) and I don't know what to think.

Sam has a history of peeing outside the box which is why I didn't panic but now I don't know, very worried.

Do you guys think this can wait till morning?   Sorry so rambling.

Title: Re: Pee Pee and more Pee
Post by: NedF on May 28, 2018, 06:59:06 PM
I think it can wait til morning as long as he is not having trouble peeing. Your description sounds like it's behavioral especially with his history. The stress of you being gone and a stranger in the house may have triggered it. Poor guy.  :(

Title: Re: Pee Pee and more Pee
Post by: August on May 28, 2018, 07:28:12 PM
Coming from a household of doing a small load of laundry nearly every day due to someone peeing somewhere, like what Ned wrote, it sounds more behavioral than something you'd need to worry about... especially seeing that he peed on the floor before you left.

He probably picked up on your stress and possibly a different schedule than usual
If the sitter isn't liked, that could also be an issue
Since the sitter hung the peed-on notebook in a paper bag on the door, the smell lingered there and that wasn't a good thing
I have found that peeing outside the box comes in waves - once the door has been re-opened and the cat is "reminded" how they used to pee here or there, it goes on for a while until the wave finishes (until the next wave  ::)  )

At least that's my lovely experience with it.

I'm guessing that because you didn't write anything about Sammy's appearing to not feel well, or making strange noises when trying to urinate, or not eating normally or acting strangely that it's probably just one of those "waves."  I can't say for Sammy since I don't know his history with UTI or anything, but if I were to take my guys to the vet every time someone peed outside of the box, I'd be going to the vet at least a couple times a week.   :P

Title: Re: Pee Pee and more Pee
Post by: lesliek on May 29, 2018, 05:40:44 AM
It does sound like its behavioral to me too. Like August said , leaving the notebook kept the smell there too . I have been adding lysol laundry sanitizer to any bedding or toys that get peed on & it seems to work better in the wash than enzyme cleaners . Maybe an extra litterbox in the area he has been going to ? I would see the regular vet also just to be sure there isn't a uti .

Title: Re: Pee Pee and more Pee
Post by: ranger on May 29, 2018, 02:17:34 PM
Leslie I would add another box but he has now peed on every room including my shoe while I was sitting in front of them.

August you may be right about Sam (the pee man) but we will see. He had blood work and urine tested today. They did his leg and bandaged it which I did not realize or I would have made them take it off. I have a lot of deep scratches on my arm and a lot of unnecessary trauma due to this.

I know it seems behavioral but before he peed in the box and he has only peed in a litter box once in the past two days.

They had the boys records mixed up at the vet Sam Spade the pee man and Sammy Little Guy the puker.

Title: Re: Pee Pee and more Pee
Post by: ranger on June 02, 2018, 07:59:48 AM
Poor Sam was dx hyper t. Poor me he is still peeing on everything. Will Start something next week when my vet returns. Natures Miracle not cleaning smell. He peed on suitcases will most likely have to toss.

Title: Re: Pee Pee and more Pee
Post by: August on June 02, 2018, 11:30:16 AM
Oh, poor guy!  It's so good you took him in and got him checked out.

I guess that one big difference in the pee situation is an important one - that Sam is peeing in random, various places.  Over here the spots are set "hot spots."

I hope he'll feel better as soon as possible, and that you can both get some relief soon!

Title: Re: Pee Pee and more Pee
Post by: mikken on June 02, 2018, 09:58:09 PM
I have quite a lot of experience cleaning up pee (we had the Pee Wars of 2016, here) and my favorite cleaner is Anti Icky Poo.  Dumb name, good product.

I know how stressful it can be (had three boys doing competitive peeing - fun times).  Just remember that this too shall pass...

Title: Re: Pee Pee and more Pee
Post by: lesliek on June 03, 2018, 04:42:12 AM
Folex instant carpet spot remover is good for things you can"t wash also . You can try soaking things in a tub full of stain & odor enzyme cleaner , but its $$ & sometimes cheaper just to replace everything.

Title: Re: Pee Pee and more Pee
Post by: alek0 on June 03, 2018, 08:53:07 PM
Good thing you took him in, hopefully peeing will resolve with time. Unfortunately I have no good advice on cleaning it up, other than usual enzyme cleaners, washing with detergent with eucalyptus and tea tree extracts, +dry cleaning for blankets. Some cheaper items are easier to discard than to throw away. Fortunately I mainly have to deal with protest peeing from Max if we go away on a trip or are working long hours, so it doesn't happen too often. Unfortunately when it does happen it can be rather costly and inconvenient, for example he peed between sofa cushions and soaked the body of the sofa, there was no help for it, had to throw it away. Good thing is it lasted 8 years...

Title: Re: Pee Pee and more Pee
Post by: GKit on June 04, 2018, 11:50:38 AM
Poor Sam Spade. I hope the hyper T meds help with the peeing situation.

Title: Re: Pee Pee and more Pee
Post by: ranger on June 07, 2018, 12:45:45 PM
Today he got into the bathroom again (door not shut tight) and peed, then he peed on the coffee table where the remote was so I ended up putting him in the cage again. I really don't know what to do I'm afraid he will pee on something electrical like my pricey air cleaner. I just got some Icky Poo and and pre cleaner and used those on the kitchen floor because it stinks. It was bad enough when he peed on the floor but the coffee table is over the top. This is pee not marking which was what he mostly did before.

Now he is on medicine for the hyper t (I hope those quarter pills are tiny) so I don't know if he could go on the other med he took originally for peeing.

Anyone have any ideas? He had peed on everything in the closet so I had to toss my suitcase and the rubbermaid containers were cleaned not sure what's going to happen with the coffee table or the cable remote. I used Icky Poo on that also.

Help he is crying.

Title: Re: Pee Pee and more Pee
Post by: lesliek on June 08, 2018, 05:57:41 AM
The crying is normal for cats with hyperT , but I would want to be sure its not a blockage or UTI. If it's not that it may just be the energetic, frantic feeling they get when their levels are too high . I would call the vet to ask about the meds he was on before. When does he start the thyroid meds? If he hasn't, I think you need to now. Don't forget there is a transdermal if he is hard to pill .

Title: Re: Pee Pee and more Pee
Post by: ranger on June 08, 2018, 05:20:17 PM
I started him this week I think (pills so tiny when quartered). He has always cried at least for his last three of us so for at least 4 years. The peeing everywhere is a concern as is the difficulty in pilling.

Title: Re: Pee Pee and more Pee
Post by: lesliek on June 09, 2018, 06:04:44 AM
Call the vet & ask for the ear gel . The peeing may resolve as his levels drop .

Title: Re: Pee Pee and more Pee
Post by: catwoods on July 03, 2018, 04:23:41 PM
I hope Sam is better now, ranger.

Title: Re: Pee Pee and more Pee
Post by: ranger on July 05, 2018, 07:07:24 AM
He went back Monday for follow up bloodwork and had urine checked to be sure it was ok. My vet is away but she emailed me and said his thyroid is normal. Not sure what that means I will go over to see if I can get the results from hospital.

This is my third hyper-t cat, Socks some of you may remember did not do well on meds so she had the I131 (after her brain surgery) while Mia did fine on it. So I guess we will see if Sam does well. I would have I131 done bur only if he can stay until all radio is gone. I cannot keep two weeks of litter for three months like I did before. Not only my neighbors would complain but with the peeing outside the box, don't see how that would even work.

Title: Re: Pee Pee and more Pee
Post by: catwoods on July 05, 2018, 12:41:17 PM
The I131 worked very well for one of our cats in the past. If they could keep Sam for the three weeks that should certainly work. OTOH I've also heard of the medication working really well. I sure hope something works out for you and Sam and starts using the box every time soon.